MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[northb]

Not starting a debate about admission standards.

I thought Calvin was having trouble filling their Freshman classes, they were a couple years ago.  Hope doesn't have enough room for its Freshman classes, .........thats all I meant.

Calvin caps enrollment at 4,200.  This fall there were 4,199 (really) . . . I think they're working hard to fill that last slot.

Calvin didn't want to embarrass the competition by getting 4200 so they just ran out the clock on their final possession.

and the crowd went wild when Hope topped their enrollment...poor sportsmanship   

[ziggy]

Unfortunately the Sentinel article is right that we are likely a one representative conference this year. (Though has it been confirmed that this is only our 2nd in-region loss? If that is the case, then perhaps Hope would be OK for an at-large bid with a 3rd loss in the conference tourney, but I'd rather not leave it to chance.)

The regional rankings are from the NCAA, hopefully they wouldn't have made a mistake.  Even if this was their third, looking at the rankings, I don't see them falling from fourth after this loss.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

As was noted by sac VH and Cramer have been terribly cold from the floor in the last two games and even more troubling to me were Cramer's turnovers in the second half. Both of these guys need to find their shot again or Hope will struggle mightily down the stretch.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

Unfortunately the Sentinel article is right that we are likely a one representative conference this year. (Though has it been confirmed that this is only our 2nd in-region loss? If that is the case, then perhaps Hope would be OK for an at-large bid with a 3rd loss in the conference tourney, but I'd rather not leave it to chance.)

The regional rankings are from the NCAA, hopefully they wouldn't have made a mistake.  Even if this was their third, looking at the rankings, I don't see them falling from fourth after this loss.

There was a lot of talk on the Top 25 board that the Carthage lost was not an in-region game for Hope and the NCAA did count it as an in-region game. It sounds like that may not be the only mistake from reading that board last night and that Pat has said he will mention the possible problems to the NCAA before next week.

[oldknight]

I haven't seen anyone bring it up, but given Cramer's struggles in the first 35 minutes, was anyone else questioning the decision to play him down the stretch? He did nail 4 very key free throws when given the chance, but had some silly turnovers and was still cold from the floor. He can still play defense of course, but might Patridge or Jager have been helpful in the end, rather than perhaps having Cramer trying too hard to make up for his play to that point?

The reason no one has brought it up is the fact that Cramer is the likely league MVP--and a deserving one. If GVW would have pulled him with the game on the line every poster would have rightly crucified Glenn for that coaching decision. Even if Cramer struggled last night you just don't pull a player of his quality with the game on the line and if GVW had done so every Calvin fan would have silently breathed a "thank you" to the Hope bench.

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As was noted by sac VH and Cramer have been terribly cold from the floor in the last two games and even more troubling to me were Cramer's turnovers in the second half. Both of these guys need to find their shot again or Hope will struggle mightily down the stretch.

Just a week ago people were thinking Cramer could end up being the league mvp.  A performance like last night's won't help that cause.  I feel like there really is no deserving league MVP as no one has clearly differentiated himself like Brandon Crawford did last year.  Someone will get it because they always name one but I don't see any candidates to call front runners.

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The reason no one has brought it up is the fact that Cramer is the likely league MVP--and a deserving one. If GVW would have pulled him with the game on the line every poster would have rightly crucified Glenn for that coaching decision. Even if Cramer struggled last night you just don't pull a player of his quality with the game on the line and if GVW had done so every Calvin fan would have silently breathed a "thank you" to the Hope bench.

I breathed a thank you every time he settled for a contested jump shot instead of using his athletic ability to take it to the hole.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

The reason no one has brought it up is the fact that Cramer is the likely league MVP--and a deserving one. If GVW would have pulled him with the game on the line every poster would have rightly crucified Glenn for that coaching decision. Even if Cramer struggled last night you just don't pull a player of his quality with the game on the line and if GVW had done so every Calvin fan would have silently breathed a "thank you" to the Hope bench.

I breathed a thank you every time he settled for a contested jump shot instead of using his athletic ability to take it to the hole.

The way Hope was "shooting" lay ups late in the game I am not sure taking it to the hole would have helped much either unless Cramer got fouled and sent to the line, the one place he did come through late in the game.

[almcguirejr]

 

I haven't seen anyone bring it up, but given Cramer's struggles in the first 35 minutes, was anyone else questioning the decision to play him down the stretch? He did nail 4 very key free throws when given the chance, but had some silly turnovers and was still cold from the floor. He can still play defense of course, but might Patridge or Jager have been helpful in the end, rather than perhaps having Cramer trying too hard to make up for his play to that point?

  Cramer did not have a good game last night, but I just don't see how you can put your  best player on the bench at crunch time.  If GVW had subbed for Cramer at the end, he would have been second guessed and rightly so.  As a Calvin fan I would have been happy to have Cramer off the floor at the end of the game.

[bulldogalum]

This Babbit fellow is a buffoon.  He should be calling in to sports talk radio, not publishing his mindless drivel.

[ChicagoHopeNut]

This Babbit fellow is a buffoon.  He should be calling in to sports talk radio, not publishing his mindless drivel.

Maybe Babbit is related to Jay Marriotti of the Chicago Sun-Times. Oh, that guy drives me nuts! I get angry just thinking that a major city newspaper gives him print each week.

[bulldogalum]

This Babbit fellow is a buffoon.  He should be calling in to sports talk radio, not publishing his mindless drivel.

Maybe Babbit is related to Jay Marriotti of the Chicago Sun-Times. Oh, that guy drives me nuts! I get angry just thinking that a major city newspaper gives him print each week.

Even worse that they allow him on television, spewing his idiocy to the masses!

[GoKnights68]

A couple things:  2005 NCAA tourney first round game vs Wheaton at Wheaton.  Any Calvin fan remember that dude dressed up in a banana suit that kept going over the Calvin student section in the last few minutes to taunt Calvin fans when they(Wheaton) were winning(we got the last laugh)

C'mon, stop and think about that for a moment. It was a dude dressed up in a banana suit. How hypersensitive do you have to be to be offended by anything said or done by a guy in a banana suit? If he's taunting you, all you have to do is simply say, "Hey ... you're dressed in a banana suit!", and you automatically win.

Besides, the guy in the gorilla suit always got Banana Suit Guy in the end.

Never said i was offended.  Just asked if anyone remembered because it was actually funny whether Calvin would've won or loss.

[dumezrules]

I have only seen one post even mentioning this but I found it HILARIOUS when Hope has a kid named BOBBY KNIGHT  read a sportsmanship statement to the masses with Dr. Myles (Yep, I fired Bobby From IU) Brand in attendance....For a heart-stopping minute, I actually thought they were going to have Bobby Knight introduce him!!!!!  That would have been the ultimate in oopsies

BTW, very well-coached game by KVS....I have questioned his pregame preparation in the past but this time, they were VERY well-prepared.  Attacking the press and half-court with guard penetration. 

I think one of the keys to Hope's d in the second half was matching up VanderHeide on Griffin.  VanderHeide's length and athleticism hurt DG's ability to hit the j or penetrate.  Hope was also able to get some rebounds that they didnt get in the first half.  (Thank you J Reimink and Ryan Klein)

[oldknight]

I think one of the keys to Hope's d in the second half was matching up VanderHeide on Griffin.  VanderHeide's length and athleticism hurt DG's ability to hit the j or penetrate.  Hope was also able to get some rebounds that they didnt get in the first half.  (Thank you J Reimink and Ryan Klein)

That's an excellent observation. I have always thought Marcus was better on the defensive end than on offense. He's a little inconsistent on offense because he's really not a great shooter. But on D he can really play and has the length and enough footspeed to guard almost any kind of player on the floor. He really did bottle up Griffin in the second half.