MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[NW Hope Fan]

Cory Feldman, and why is he an Albion fan??

I'm sure he just got caught up in the excitement of the night... 

[thealmascots]

Good to see the clip after all the talk about it.  I agree that it was a great pass, a great catch, it was reasonably contested and kudos to the player for a great shot.  However, the first thing the defense needs to do is make him change direction or give it up.  Calvin over-committed on the inbounds pass which forced everyone to run along side the dribbler instead of being able to force him one way or the other.  Easy to second guess now, but considering they had to go length of the court in 5 seconds, that was a very good luck at the basket. 

[hopehoopfan]

Cory Feldman, and why is he an Albion fan??

I'm sure he just got caught up in the excitement of the night... 

Who wouldn't!? I was "watching" the live stats of that game and the Hope game, and I ended up just watching the big win. It was a bit frustrating to see the score freeze with 1 second to go. I knew it wasn't just my PC as the radio guys from the Hope game were commenting on the same thing.  I pretty much figured it was over, but then again, so did all the loyal Calvin fans either watching or listening.

[bulldogalum]

I will generally agree with the Hope description of last night's game.  However, I don't think anyone has mentioned the key stat of the game:  turnovers.  Adrian had 25 turnovers last night--15 in the first half.  And, while some of this can be attributed to the Hope defense, much of it was due to Adrian making mental mistakes and engaging in general sloppy play.  We've got to start securing the ball if we're going to have any success down the stretch.

[Happy Calvin Guy]

I understand that the final margin was due to a late run, but did GVW seriously think he needed his starters in game until 3:00 on the clock and up by 20?  Again the Hope bench gets suprisingly few min's, and all but 12 points are scored by four players.  In stark contrast over in Albion, KVS plays 9 guys at least 15 mins in a 1 point back and forth game.  Is this possibly why Calvin seems to overachieve in the postseason?  I think that last night's game can be beneficial for the Knights.  Calvin probably doesn't have the record to get into the NCAA tourney without winning the MIAA tourney anyway, and one could argue that adversity in the regular season is as valuable as success.   

Or, more probably GVW doesn't need to tinker any more to find the right combo that will carry the Dutchmen far into the postseason, but I just think it potentially sets them up for an early round upset if one of the starters gets in quick foul trouble or even worse gets injured.   

[HopeConvert]

I understand that the final margin was due to a late run, but did GVW seriously think he needed his starters in game until 3:00 on the clock and up by 20?  Again the Hope bench gets suprisingly few min's, and all but 12 points are scored by four players.  In stark contrast over in Albion, KVS plays 9 guys at least 15 mins in a 1 point back and forth game.  Is this possibly why Calvin seems to overachieve in the postseason?  I think that last night's game can be beneficial for the Knights.  Calvin probably doesn't have the record to get into the NCAA tourney without winning the MIAA tourney anyway, and one could argue that adversity in the regular season is as valuable as success.   

Success is the goal. Adversity may help you achieve it, but it's subordinate, and thus not as valuable. Give me the W's.

[Happy Calvin Guy]

I understand that the final margin was due to a late run, but did GVW seriously think he needed his starters in game until 3:00 on the clock and up by 20?  Again the Hope bench gets suprisingly few min's, and all but 12 points are scored by four players.  In stark contrast over in Albion, KVS plays 9 guys at least 15 mins in a 1 point back and forth game.  Is this possibly why Calvin seems to overachieve in the postseason?  I think that last night's game can be beneficial for the Knights.  Calvin probably doesn't have the record to get into the NCAA tourney without winning the MIAA tourney anyway, and one could argue that adversity in the regular season is as valuable as success.   

Success is the goal. Adversity may help you achieve it, but it's subordinate, and thus not as valuable. Give me the W's.

I agree, I'd rather have the W's too.....just trying to look at any silver lining after yesterday's heartbreaker.  didn't someone post recently on this board that the loss in 1992 is considered the most valuable game for the Knights' natl title run?  (and yes I understand that one loss is a little different than eight...)

[GoKnights68]

I don't know what Kotsier was exactly doing on the final play once the Albion player got the ball.



Yeah Calvin probably needed to win the MIAA tourney anyways, but it would've been real nice to get to play Hope next Wednesday for a chance to get at least a share of regular season championship, which is always a great accomplishment.

[Civic Minded]

On an interesting side note, 8 out of the 10 posters currently viewing Great Lakes Region topics are Let's Talk MIAA regulars.  We're an addicted bunch, aren't we?   

[ziggy]

Happy Valentines day to all!  May we all make like Albion tonight and really get lucky! (within the confines of a loving marriage, of course)

[realist]

HCG:  Not so sure about that adversity thing.  The person who pointed out the 92 loss is a CCIW regular, and was tugging on all your leg just abit.   :)That loss occurred early, and just prevented a perfect season.  Remember Hope had some fantastic teams in the early 90's as well, and Calvin was battle tested by NCAA time.  However, the loss to Defiance in the 99 MIAA tourney definitely was a key to what happened the following year.  I still am not quite sure what to make of this years Calvin team.  They have shown flashes of brilliance, and at other times just haven't played any where near the level most people expected.  They seem to have peaked for the Wash U game, and since then can't get it all back together.  Even with the maroon and gold glasses on I have a hard time seeing Calvin defeating both Hope and Albion should they play in the MIAA tourney.

[ziggy]

Given the webcams and talks of new facilities for many MIAA programs, I found this article particularly pertinent and thought provoking:  http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/columns/story?columnist=oneil_dana&id=3221302&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1

Really interesting to compare this sort of Division I experience to the D III game we follow.

[realist]

Happy Valentines day to all!  May we all make like Albion tonight and really get lucky! (within the confines of a loving marriage, of course)
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Have you ever noticed how the really "good" teams make their own luck?  Albion knew what to do when the opportunity came.  Calvin bet on stopping Albion from scoring when perhaps they should have figured out how to limit any potential shot to 2 points.  Better to play for the tie than to allow a 3 pt. shot.

[ziggy]

Happy Valentines day to all!  May we all make like Albion tonight and really get lucky! (within the confines of a loving marriage, of course)
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I completely agree.  I do not believe that one play ever makes or breaks a game.  True, the outcomes of each event over the course of a game may lead to the last play determining the final outcome but the execution of that final play can not be seen as the sole explanation for the particular outcome.

Come on all you grumps, get in the V-day spirit!

[Erm Schmigget]

Have you ever noticed how the really "good" teams make their own luck?  Albion knew what to do when the opportunity came.  Calvin bet on stopping Albion from scoring when perhaps they should have figured out how to limit any potential shot to 2 points.  Better to play for the tie than to allow a 3 pt. shot.

Yes.  Thank you.  Why don't coaches protect from a loss by having their players foul before the shot?  Make a kid earn 2 pts. and tie at best rather than risking the loss by allowing a shot?  Mocini had a good look and good form on his shot--nothing like Winkle's fall-away-off-the-glass-wing-and-a-prayer shot of several years ago.  That one was lucky, if any.