MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Flying Dutch Fan]

I would hope any "distain" of other MIAA schools is a gamesmanship towards clothes.  In my years around the MIAA I have found the students the most refreshing and impressive part of any of the institutions .... unrelated to their uniforms or loyalties.

If someone thinks they really know a coach, fan or student based on what they see in the competitive arena -- they're fooling themselves.

I hope any negative feelings folks have toward Hope, Albion or Calvin are shallow and silliness.  I like to beat Albion, but the respect I have for the Albion students I've spent time with far outweighs the "rivalry" between our schools.  Anything other than that is an insult to the quality of people attending and competing for these schools.

Well said flea   +k

[goodknight]

Here's some recruiting tidbits from the Calvin camp:
Joel Kamp of Chicago Christian is in the fold.
Still waiting on final decisions from a PF from Florida, a wing from Up North, and a solid SG from the lakeshore. 

[wiz]

Here's some recruiting tidbits from the Calvin camp:
Joel Kamp of Chicago Christian is in the fold.
Still waiting on final decisions from a PF from Florida, a wing from Up North, and a solid SG from the lakeshore. 

Story checks out!

[goodknight]

Here's some recruiting tidbits from the Calvin camp:
Joel Kamp of Chicago Christian is in the fold.
Still waiting on final decisions from a PF from Florida, a wing from Up North, and a solid SG from the lakeshore. 

Story checks out!

I neglected to mention a couple of recruits who earlier indicated they were Calvin-bound -- both of them excellent soccer players as well as potential hoops contributors at the college level:

Tyler Vegter of Unity Christian in Hudsonville
Eric Prins of Western Michigan Christian, who earned Div4/Class D state titles this year in both soccer and basketball.

It seems likely that Prins' longer buddy, 6-6 Charlie VanRees, also will come to Grand Rapids for the next four years.

[gohope]

This is an example of Hall of Fame maturity.

I get a lot of feed back about the things I post on this site, all of it positive, even from the few Calvin posters and lurkers I've met.  In fact I can't think of one time a single person told me in public they didn't like what I had to say or something along that line.  I come here to talk basketball, Hope, the MIAA, D3 and any other random subject that might cross my mind that others might find as interesting as I do. 

I never asked to be in the Hall of Fame, its kind of cool that Pat and the others felt to include me.  No offense to Pat but it doesn't mean alot, only that I've been around awhile.   Its not some secret society, there's no handshake, no jacket or wristwatch, its just a bunch of us who have a few things in common.  We love ours schools, we love D3 basketball, we love talking D3 basketball and over time have contributed alot of information other readers may or may not enjoy.

You obviously don't like my aproach, thats fine, I haven't always responded to you or others the way I should.  But I won't sit back and let people trash me or my school esp. when they have an agenda, fortunately 97% of the people who post here show class and restraint most of the time.  Its the other 3% that I have a hard time dealing with, sometimes I can ignore it, sometimes I won't.

There are alot of reasons people come here, most come to talk basketball, some to just read (alot actually), some to offer brief opinions on subjects of the moment.  I really don't know what your reasoning is, you've sometimes provided good reading, most of the time its one liners with agenda's, pot shots and ragging on individuals or your rival.  Doesn't make for fun reading.  The kind of stuff that invites comebacks.

You may challenge my integrity, maturity, class ......whatever makes you feel better about yourself.  I know the truth of our first meeting and I'm comfortable with my maturity level.  I made a mistake earlier this year with you, and I apologize for that, it was an honest mistake born out of surprise more than anything else.  It obviously made you hide from the board for a few weeks and for that I'm sorry you felt you had to do that.  But again it was an honest mistake.

I'm not here to make enemies, just talk basketball.  I offer my hand extended as some kind of peace offering.  I can't promise that I'll back down from being challenged or questioned or having my school or it coaches or players trashed.  But I'll do my best to keep to myself and engage in conversations instead of "trash talking".  I've grown tired of the direction this board goes down sometimes, and I know others feel the same way.

So thats my response, I guess the balls in your court now.  Again enjoy your off season, as always I look forward to next season with anticipation.

SAC -

I'm sorry that you had to submit the post that you did, but thanks. Thanks for going "above-and-beyond-the-call-of-dutyl" which once again shows exactly what a really classy person you are .  I could stop at that, but that just wouldn't be appropriate. That's because you have the respect of so many on this site as well as the entire D3Hoops board. You're educated about the sport, knowledgeable about the league, and you share YOUR thoughts with special style and finese. MANY people are appreciative of your insight and ability to "calm things down" when the heat is turned up on this site through the various posts. Your humor and sometimes  sarcasm are often used to help bring civility back to this board.  I have nothing but the utmost respect for you and value what you bring to this board. SAC, I salute you.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Here's some recruiting tidbits from the Calvin camp:
Joel Kamp of Chicago Christian is in the fold.
Still waiting on final decisions from a PF from Florida, a wing from Up North, and a solid SG from the lakeshore. 

Story checks out!

I neglected to mention a couple of recruits who earlier indicated they were Calvin-bound -- both of them excellent soccer players as well as potential hoops contributors at the college level:

Tyler Vegter of Unity Christian in Hudsonville
Eric Prins of Western Michigan Christian, who earned Div4/Class D state titles this year in both soccer and basketball.

It seems likely that Prins' longer buddy, 6-6 Charlie VanRees, also will come to Grand Rapids for the next four years.

Sounds like a number of good recruits for the Knights.  Only losing one player to graduation makes it a bit harder to get these guys on varsity, although there were a few varsity players who didn't see much (if any)playing time.  Is there any expecation (among the fans anyway) about which of these recruits might make an immediate impact at the varisty level?

[Ralph Turner]

Davidson made the elite tonight, I always thought Davidson was a bigger school but they have an enrollment of around 1700.  The school picked up the tab and offered bus rides and a ticket for any student who wanted one to Detroit to watch the team play in the sweet 16.

For reference, Albion has an enrollment of 1900.

I believe Davidson is the smallest D1 school.  They seem an obvious fit for D3, but apparently decided to use their endowment for different purposes than many.  I have no knowledge whether or not that is a necessary thing for enrollment purposes.

But, oh! is Curry good!   In the second half, he personally outscored Wisconsin, 22-20.

Centenary LA has 930, Wofford SC has about 1300, and Presbyterian SC has about 1200 students.

Birmingham-Southern was around 1200 students before they made the move to D-III to grow the enrollment.

Davidson also is 100% scholarship now.

[oldknight]

Here's some recruiting tidbits from the Calvin camp:
Joel Kamp of Chicago Christian is in the fold.
Still waiting on final decisions from a PF from Florida, a wing from Up North, and a solid SG from the lakeshore. 

Story checks out!

I neglected to mention a couple of recruits who earlier indicated they were Calvin-bound -- both of them excellent soccer players as well as potential hoops contributors at the college level:

Tyler Vegter of Unity Christian in Hudsonville
Eric Prins of Western Michigan Christian, who earned Div4/Class D state titles this year in both soccer and basketball.

It seems likely that Prins' longer buddy, 6-6 Charlie VanRees, also will come to Grand Rapids for the next four years.

Sounds like a number of good recruits for the Knights.  Only losing one player to graduation makes it a bit harder to get these guys on varsity, although there were a few varsity players who didn't see much (if any)playing time.  Is there any expecation (among the fans anyway) about which of these recruits might make an immediate impact at the varisty level?

I've never seen him play but one Chicago area spy tells me Kamp is the mostly likely incoming player to make any splash at Knollcrest (make that VanNoord)--though not necessarily as a freshmen. He averaged over 23 points a game and was the go-to player on a Chicago Christian team that advanced to the supersectional before losing a close game to North Lawndale, the eventual 2A state champ. North Lawndale is a small school basketball power in Illinois and Kamp saw a game tying three at the buzzer rim out in that tournament game. I understand Wheaton wanted Kamp so it appears he's a player. Maybe Greg Sager can tell us more.

[realist]

Here's some recruiting tidbits from the Calvin camp:
Joel Kamp of Chicago Christian is in the fold.
Still waiting on final decisions from a PF from Florida, a wing from Up North, and a solid SG from the lakeshore. 

Story checks out!

I neglected to mention a couple of recruits who earlier indicated they were Calvin-bound -- both of them excellent soccer players as well as potential hoops contributors at the college level:

Tyler Vegter of Unity Christian in Hudsonville
Eric Prins of Western Michigan Christian, who earned Div4/Class D state titles this year in both soccer and basketball.

It seems likely that Prins' longer buddy, 6-6 Charlie VanRees, also will come to Grand Rapids for the next four years.

Sounds like a number of good recruits for the Knights.  Only losing one player to graduation makes it a bit harder to get these guys on varsity, although there were a few varsity players who didn't see much (if any)playing time.  Is there any expecation (among the fans anyway) about which of these recruits might make an immediate impact at the varisty level?

Until they actually show up on campus, and start playing it is really hard to say.  KVS seems to have gotten in a pattern the last few years of giving youngsters the opportunity to play jv if at all possible.  It sure helped Engelsma to develop, and even this year only Van Harn saw many minutes as a fr. on the varsity.  It would be nice to get several Veldhouses or Mantels that come in and contribute as fr., but at this point not sure we have those recruits signed.    Your comment that some of the players with low minutes played may not make the cut next fall should they try out is probably accurate.
I don't expect to see the "baby knights for the next few years, and want to be the first to ask if next year's Hope team is going to go by "baby dutch"?

[goodknight]

Here's some recruiting tidbits from the Calvin camp:
Joel Kamp of Chicago Christian is in the fold.
Still waiting on final decisions from a PF from Florida, a wing from Up North, and a solid SG from the lakeshore. 

Story checks out!

I neglected to mention a couple of recruits who earlier indicated they were Calvin-bound -- both of them excellent soccer players as well as potential hoops contributors at the college level:

Tyler Vegter of Unity Christian in Hudsonville
Eric Prins of Western Michigan Christian, who earned Div4/Class D state titles this year in both soccer and basketball.

It seems likely that Prins' longer buddy, 6-6 Charlie VanRees, also will come to Grand Rapids for the next four years.

Sounds like a number of good recruits for the Knights.  Only losing one player to graduation makes it a bit harder to get these guys on varsity, although there were a few varsity players who didn't see much (if any)playing time.  Is there any expecation (among the fans anyway) about which of these recruits might make an immediate impact at the varisty level?

I've never seen him play but one Chicago area spy tells me Kamp is the mostly likely incoming player to make any splash at Knollcrest (make that VanNoord)--though not necessarily as a freshmen. He averaged over 23 points a game and was the go-to player on a Chicago Christian team that advanced to the supersectional before losing a close game to North Lawndale, the eventual 2A state champ. North Lawndale is a small school basketball power in Illinois and Kamp saw a game tying three at the buzzer rim out in that tournament game. I understand Wheaton wanted Kamp so it appears he's a player. Maybe Greg Sager can tell us more.

Our old friend Kevin Broene is a fan of Kamp's.  KB is the assistant coach at ChiChr and likes Joel's abilities and his tenacity.  But it seems likely he would play JV ball his freshman year, since the Knights have Veldhouse, Smith, Van Harn and Strunk as probable returnees in the backcourt.

I'd expect a few of this year's JV players -- Nate Systsma, Danny Rodts and Tyler VanderZee (if he can put some meat on his 6-7 frame) -- to battle for a spot or two on next year's varsity, as well.

[GoKnights68]

Here's some recruiting tidbits from the Calvin camp:
Joel Kamp of Chicago Christian is in the fold.
Still waiting on final decisions from a PF from Florida, a wing from Up North, and a solid SG from the lakeshore. 

Story checks out!

I neglected to mention a couple of recruits who earlier indicated they were Calvin-bound -- both of them excellent soccer players as well as potential hoops contributors at the college level:

Tyler Vegter of Unity Christian in Hudsonville
Eric Prins of Western Michigan Christian, who earned Div4/Class D state titles this year in both soccer and basketball.

It seems likely that Prins' longer buddy, 6-6 Charlie VanRees, also will come to Grand Rapids for the next four years.

Sounds like a number of good recruits for the Knights.  Only losing one player to graduation makes it a bit harder to get these guys on varsity, although there were a few varsity players who didn't see much (if any)playing time. Is there any expecation (among the fans anyway) about which of these recruits might make an immediate impact at the varisty level?

I've never seen him play but one Chicago area spy tells me Kamp is the mostly likely incoming player to make any splash at Knollcrest (make that VanNoord)--though not necessarily as a freshmen. He averaged over 23 points a game and was the go-to player on a Chicago Christian team that advanced to the supersectional before losing a close game to North Lawndale, the eventual 2A state champ. North Lawndale is a small school basketball power in Illinois and Kamp saw a game tying three at the buzzer rim out in that tournament game. I understand Wheaton wanted Kamp so it appears he's a player. Maybe Greg Sager can tell us more.

Our old friend Kevin Broene is a fan of Kamp's.  KB is the assistant coach at ChiChr and likes Joel's abilities and his tenacity.  But it seems likely he would play JV ball his freshman year, since the Knights have Veldhouse, Smith, Van Harn and Strunk as probable returnees in the backcourt.

I'd expect a few of this year's JV players -- Nate Systsma, Danny Rodts and Tyler VanderZee (if he can put some meat on his 6-7 frame) -- to battle for a spot or two on next year's varsity, as well.

I have a feeling Danny Rodts will make a strong impact on the varsity team next season.  They'll need a guy like him  to help increase their scoring options.

[calvinite]

Speaking of next year, what's the deal with Brent Schuster? I probably missed it on the boards, but I don't remember seeing him much, if at all, the second half of the season. Do we know the reason for this and/or if he's returning next year.

[goodknight]

I was able to confirm Charlie VanRees' decision to wear the maroon and gold next fall.  He, like Prins, was an integral part of the Western Michigan Christian state champion soccer and basketball teams.  He's still a bit raw as a basketball player, but has a huge wingspan and a big upside if he could put on some muscle and  really learn the game.

[Gregory Sager]

I've never seen him play but one Chicago area spy tells me Kamp is the mostly likely incoming player to make any splash at Knollcrest (make that VanNoord)--though not necessarily as a freshmen. He averaged over 23 points a game and was the go-to player on a Chicago Christian team that advanced to the supersectional before losing a close game to North Lawndale, the eventual 2A state champ. North Lawndale is a small school basketball power in Illinois and Kamp saw a game tying three at the buzzer rim out in that tournament game. I understand Wheaton wanted Kamp so it appears he's a player. Maybe Greg Sager can tell us more.

I haven't seen Kamp play, although like Bob I knew that Wheaton was after him. I didn't realize that Calvin was after Kamp as well, but since he's a Chicago Christian player that doesn't surprise me. I can't tell you anything else about Kamp, but I feel constrained to point out that the MVP of Chicago Christian's conference is going to play for North Park.

[goodknight]

Constrained?  Not so much.
Compelled?  Absolutely.