MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[Pat Coleman]

This place is turning back into Semantics Central. 

I'm sorry -- Central is in the IIAC and is off topic here.

[Gregory Sager]

By the way, I visited Calvin and grew up within a quarter mile of the campus and went to many Calvin bball games before HS - and as an outsider I wouldn't agree with either of the sentiments that I expressed above.  But you are going to have to explain more about this before we accept the thinly veiled swipe at Hope's emphasis on athletics, which most of us would not say is unhealthy. 

I don't think that this emphasis on athletics discussion started as a "swipe at Hope" but more as a reason as to why Calvin has not added a football program.

I've been accused of sowing dissension on certain boards out of a desire to enliven a room where you could hear crickets chirping, and I've even admitted to stirring the pot on occasion and getting people to go after each other simply to indulge my occasionally sick sense of humor. But I plead innocence this time around; when I inquired about Calvin's ongoing legacy of stiff-arming the sport of football, I specifically said that I wasn't looking to cause trouble between this room's Hope partisans and Calvin partisans.

Once again, with almost no impetus at all and a catalyst who was specifically looking to avoid making trouble, the Van Hatfield and the McCoysma camps have found an excuse to snipe at each other. You folks and that feud of yours never cease to amaze and amuse me.

[Mr. Ypsi]

This place is turning back into Semantics Central. 

I'm sorry -- Central is in the IIAC and is off topic here.

This is the MIAA, Pat.  Central is a d1 school in Mt. Pleasant.

[tniem]

But you are going to have to explain more about this before we accept the thinly veiled swipe at Hope's emphasis on athletics, which most of us would not say is unhealthy. 

I am sorry if I somehow offended you.  When I wrote my 'SILLY" posts I really never gave any thought to Hope College, and even less to whether or not Hope places a greater or lesser emphasis on sports than Calvin does.   
I do not know enough about the inside operation of Hope College or how it views itself, to form an opinion one way or the other.   
I attended Calvin, and remain in reasonably close contact with many faculty, staff, students, and administrators there.   What I see, read, hear and observe leads me to conclude that sports are important at Calvin, but not so important that it dominates the College or how it sees itself.  As a sports fan I really would like it if Calvin would beat the sports drum a bit more than it has, and does.  It is a fact the current fund drive has had greater difficulty getting alums., and deep pockets enthused about the Spoelhof complex than any other portion of the fund drive. 

 

I don't think that this emphasis on athletics discussion started as a "swipe at Hope" but more as a reason as to why Calvin has not added a football program.

Not offended at all.  In fact, I am not sure I disagree with anything you wrote. 

I was responding to goknight68, who claimed that  "Calvin does not always place that much emphasis on sports as a whole, ............" which I took to mean that sports are not an emphasis at Calvin (in the chain of the discussion it is the conclusion I reached), which I simply disagree with (more below).  If that was not what he/she meant at all - then I apologize completely.

I was asking him/her (and now that I reread, I was harsher than I meant to be), to please go on.  From what I have seen, Calvin clearly cares and emphasizes sports - just as Hope does.  Does that mean its the most important thing at either school, clearly not or they would not be D3.  Guaranteed that you speak to Dr. Bultman and sports is not the first thing that he hopes is being accomplished on campus - I assume the same for Gaylen Byker.  So this is not intended as a slam of Calvin at all - and I would agree with all your comments on football - just trying to get further clarity from goknight68, who I took to be saying that Calvin has less emphasis on sports than Hope.

[sac]

This place is turning back into Semantics Central. 

I'm sorry -- Central is in the IIAC and is off topic here.

Semantics Central has just as good of a football program as Calvin.  Miraculously without much emphasis on athletics.   Their English department is a bit snooty though. .............and lets not even bring up their rivalry with the Fighting Bookworms of Thesaurus Northern.

Emphasis on 

[sac]

Adrian is doing its part for the MIAA with a win over second-seeded Wooster, 4-3, earlier this evening. Go dogs! [At least for this game...]

Won again today, becoming just the 3rd MIAA team to win 2 games in the tournament.  Basically 2 wins away from the D3 World Series.

Good Region, 5 of 6 games have been pretty tight.
http://www.rose-hulman.edu/sports/baseball/08regional/

[northb]

This place is turning back into Semantics Central. 

I'm sorry -- Central is in the IIAC and is off topic here.

I am surprised you let the discussion stay here at all!  Isn't there a more appropriate board for this discussion?

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=3548.0

[gohope]

This place is turning back into Semantics Central. 

I'm sorry -- Central is in the IIAC and is off topic here.

This is the MIAA, Pat.  Central is a d1 school in Mt. Pleasant.

Alas, but Central is a sister school in Pella, Iowa!   

[gohope]

Less than a week until FLOPPY HAT DAY!!!   

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Adrian is doing its part for the MIAA with a win over second-seeded Wooster, 4-3, earlier this evening. Go dogs! [At least for this game...]

Won again today, becoming just the 3rd MIAA team to win 2 games in the tournament.  Basically 2 wins away from the D3 World Series.

Good Region, 5 of 6 games have been pretty tight.
http://www.rose-hulman.edu/sports/baseball/08regional/

Adrian beats Heidleberg 4-1, to advance to the regional finals.  If they can win 1 game tomorrow (possibility of 2 games since it's double-elimination) they're in!!

CONGRATS Bulldogs!!!

[hope1]

any updates on calvin fieldhouse just wondering on how far they were

[Mr. Ypsi]

Adrian is doing its part for the MIAA with a win over second-seeded Wooster, 4-3, earlier this evening. Go dogs! [At least for this game...]

Won again today, becoming just the 3rd MIAA team to win 2 games in the tournament.  Basically 2 wins away from the D3 World Series.

Good Region, 5 of 6 games have been pretty tight.
http://www.rose-hulman.edu/sports/baseball/08regional/

Adrian beats Heidleberg 4-1, to advance to the regional finals.  If they can win 1 game tomorrow (possibility of 2 games since it's double-elimination) they're in!!

CONGRATS Bulldogs!!!

Heidi knocked out Wooster, 1-0 (a score you don't often see this late in the tourney, as the top pitchers have gone by the wayside), so Adrian needs to beat Heidi in EITHER game tomorrow.

Judging from the MIAA website, I believe that would be the first ever appearance for the conference in the WS.  Go Bulldogs!

[realist]

any updates on calvin fieldhouse just wondering on how far they were

You can see, and judge for yourself by going to www.calvin.edu and once at the main page look for webcams under features.  The steel has all been set, and work is on or a bit ahead of schedule according to what I am told.
More interesting is the new dorm that was completed in about 15-16 weeks.

[Flying Dutch Fan]

Adrian is doing its part for the MIAA with a win over second-seeded Wooster, 4-3, earlier this evening. Go dogs! [At least for this game...]

Won again today, becoming just the 3rd MIAA team to win 2 games in the tournament.  Basically 2 wins away from the D3 World Series.

Good Region, 5 of 6 games have been pretty tight.
http://www.rose-hulman.edu/sports/baseball/08regional/

Adrian beats Heidleberg 4-1, to advance to the regional finals.  If they can win 1 game tomorrow (possibility of 2 games since it's double-elimination) they're in!!

CONGRATS Bulldogs!!!

Heidi knocked out Wooster, 1-0 (a score you don't often see this late in the tourney, as the top pitchers have gone by the wayside), so Adrian needs to beat Heidi in EITHER game tomorrow.

Judging from the MIAA website, I believe that would be the first ever appearance for the conference in the WS.  Go Bulldogs!

Adrian lost the first game to Heidi, but scored 3 runs in the bootom of the 9th in the final game to win 8-7 and advance to the World Series

Way to go BullDogs!!!!!

[hope1]

yes nice bulldogs good luck this week