MBB: Michigan Intercollegiate Athletic Association

[devossed]

+ a host of freshman with talent: krombeen, king, neil, ross, parkes, wilmers

Did someone change their mind?

the last i heard, he never "made up" his mind until the day before deposits were due in full may 1...the report (from another one of those recruiting websites) of him heading elswhere seemed to be premature...such is the nature of D-3???

who knows -- he could end up pulling the king of all waffles and change his mind 3 more times before august (eg Dex Battista?)

[sac]

+ a host of freshman with talent: krombeen, king, neil, ross, parkes, wilmers

Did someone change their mind?

the last i heard, he never "made up" his mind until the day before deposits were due in full may 1...the report (from another one of those recruiting websites) of him heading elswhere seemed to be premature...such is the nature of D-3???

who knows -- he could end up pulling the king of all waffles and change his mind 3 more times before august (eg Dex Battista?)

Ah the old reliable grapevine.

Well then......

Ryan Ross, St. Joseph Michigan Lutheran, 6-4 G/F---Hope ?

Detroit News Class D all-state third team, FreePress 4th team.  Averaged 32.2 points per game, which I think was 3rd in the state behind  Mr. Basketball Brad Redford from Frankenmuth -Xavier and Dustin Orns who went NAIA.  Level of competition faced would definately be a question on Ross.........but hey, averaging 32.2 in high school you must be doing something well.

Michigan Lutheran's schedule..........some pretty small schools and academies in there.
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[Gregory Sager]

HC:  You almost had me until I realized agreeing with your post would mean coaches are like little gods.  Sadly, most of the coaches I know or have know, are fallible human beings with likes and dislikes, and some might even play favorites.     However, you are right on your point that determining "better" really is very subjective.

I thought that HC's point was excellent. Yes, returnees sometimes get disgruntled when a transfer comes in and rapidly moves ahead of them on the depth chart. But basketball teams, and sports teams in general, aren't run on the seniority system. As HC said, sports is generally a meritocracy. Can the subjectivity of coaching judgment (including personality issues, e.g., "playing favorites") sometimes taint that meritocracy a bit? Sure. But a college basketball team is still an entity that operates on merit much more than do most other collectives in American society.

[soapbox]

I'm not going to single out anyone specifically for criticism, but I'd like to make a general point, and this is as good a place as any to make it:

I get a little tired of seeing how some people on Posting Up (not just Let's Talk MIAA) treat transfers as though they all bear the mark of Cain. For one thing, it lumps together all sorts of people who have nothing in common in terms of motivation, skills (on the court or in the classroom), prior experiences, economic status, demeanor, grades, etc., and who are only bound together by the fact that they're student-athletes that are moving from one school to another. As Sac said, there's a thousand reasons to transfer, and there's a different story for every student who does so. For another, too many people imply that there's something mercenary or impure about a student-athlete who moves from one school to another. And it connotes an air of superiority for those who never transferred, an air that I frankly don't think is necessarily deserved. Lastly, those who bash transfers, and the schools that take them, aren't nearly taking the high road as much as they may think they are; too often it's simply a transparent attempt to take a dig at a rival school rather than make a statement in support of good academic ethics.

I don't have the authority to quash an argument, and goodness knows that the off-season leaves a whole lot of down time to be filled, anyway, but I certainly wouldn't mind it if people would just lay off the whole tsk-tsk-tsk-look-at-those-transfers routine.

[/soapbox]

[hope1]

hope everyone has a nice holiday   lets just hope that summer basketball starts pretty soon we need something to watch

[northb]

HC:  You almost had me until I realized agreeing with your post would mean coaches are like little gods.  Sadly, most of the coaches I know or have know, are fallible human beings with likes and dislikes, and some might even play favorites.     However, you are right on your point that determining "better" really is very subjective.

I thought that HC's point was excellent. Yes, returnees sometimes get disgruntled when a transfer comes in and rapidly moves ahead of them on the depth chart. But basketball teams, and sports teams in general, aren't run on the seniority system. As HC said, sports is generally a meritocracy. Can the subjectivity of coaching judgment (including personality issues, e.g., "playing favorites") sometimes taint that meritocracy a bit? Sure. But a college basketball team is still an entity that operates on merit much more than do most other collectives in American society.

[soapbox]

I'm not going to single out anyone specifically for criticism, but I'd like to make a general point, and this is as good a place as any to make it:

I get a little tired of seeing how some people on Posting Up (not just Let's Talk MIAA) treat transfers as though they all bear the mark of Cain. For one thing, it lumps together all sorts of people who have nothing in common in terms of motivation, skills (on the court or in the classroom), prior experiences, economic status, demeanor, grades, etc., and who are only bound together by the fact that they're student-athletes that are moving from one school to another. As Sac said, there's a thousand reasons to transfer, and there's a different story for every student who does so. For another, too many people imply that there's something mercenary or impure about a student-athlete who moves from one school to another. And it connotes an air of superiority for those who never transferred, an air that I frankly don't think is necessarily deserved. Lastly, those who bash transfers, and the schools that take them, aren't nearly taking the high road as much as they may think they are; too often it's simply a transparent attempt to take a dig at a rival school rather than make a statement in support of good academic ethics.

I don't have the authority to quash an argument, and goodness knows that the off-season leaves a whole lot of down time to be filled, anyway, but I certainly wouldn't mind it if people would just lay off the whole tsk-tsk-tsk-look-at-those-transfers routine.

[/soapbox]

I get a little tired of seeing how some people on Posting Up (not just Let's Talk MIAA) treat transfers those who post about transfers as though they all bear the mark of Cain. For one thing, it lumps together all sorts of people who have nothing in common in terms of motivation, skills (on the court or in the classroom), prior experiences, economic status, demeanor, grades, etc., and who are only bound together by the fact that they're student-athletes that are moving from one school to another posting about transfers. As Sac said never said, there's a thousand reasons to transfer post about transfers, and there's a different story for every student poster who does so. For another, too many people imply that there's something mercenary or impure about a student-athlete who moves from one school to another posting about transfers. And it connotes an air of superiority for those who never transferred posted about transfers, an air that I frankly don't think is necessarily deserved. Lastly, those who bash transfersthose who post about transfers, and the schools that take them, aren't nearly taking the high road as much as they may think they are; too often it's simply a transparent attempt to take a dig at a rival school rather than make a statement in support of good academic ethics.

[tniem]

northb, are you suggesting that those supporting transfers are making a "transparent dig" at other schools in the conference rather than making a point about academic ethics?

[Civic Minded]

You have got to be kidding me.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Adrian and Johns Hopkins, 2-2 in the 11th - Go Bulldogs!

[bulldogalum]

Good grief, this is killing me.

[Ralph Turner]

Good grief, this is killing me.

It is also killing the arms in your bullpen.

Does Domschott have any more left in his arm after this game?

Todd Emr stretches a hit to left field into a double.  One out, bottom of the 13th, tied at 2.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Adrian falls, 3-2, in 14 innings.  With that stress on bullpens, the game may have all-but-eliminated BOTH teams.

[Pat Coleman]

Adrian falls, 3-2, in 14 innings.  With that stress on bullpens, the game may have all-but-eliminated BOTH teams.

Way to jump to a conclusion, Chuck. Each team used one reliever to get through the game -- Adrian used Ryan Domschott for all of three innings (14 batters) and Johns Hopkins used Ryan Kealy for five innings (17 batters).

[Mr. Ypsi]

Adrian falls, 3-2, in 14 innings.  With that stress on bullpens, the game may have all-but-eliminated BOTH teams.

Way to jump to a conclusion, Chuck. Each team used one reliever to get through the game -- Adrian used Ryan Domschott for all of three innings (14 batters) and Johns Hopkins used Ryan Kealy for five innings (17 batters).

"all-but-eliminated" was a bit over the top, but 'hurt' would certainly be likely.  I'm assuming that Domschott and Kealy were their ace relievers - after those outings, I further assume they will not be available again real soon.

I wonder if anyone has ever compiled the outcomes of teams going several extra innings in game 1?  I'm guessing the news ain't good!

[hope1]

yes what a good game   i watching it on the d3 baseball  score board

[almcguirejr]

The holiday tournament Calvin is in at Defiance has Calvin opening with Geneva and Defiance playing Rockford.