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sac

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By the way

while watching the Hope women's game last night it occurred to me that maybe the new men's 3pt line will impact the women more.  Hope took 18 3 point shots and I'd wager half of those were from behind the men's line.  The only one Carrie Snikkers made was at least a foot behind that line.

If I remember right there were 3 instances of traveling, where the ladies were trying to set their feet between the lines.

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realist

Sac:  Interesting observation.  I understand the dual lines, but to my way of thinking it would be easier for the players, and the refs. if the area from the front (inside) edge of the female line to the back of the outside edge of the male line were solid (filled in).
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KnightSlappy

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Solution to the "two line problem":
1. Know where you are on the floor at all times
2. Know your shooting range

Only time and practice will allow the players (men and women) to get used to the new line.

I like the new line in the men's game so far.  It takes the perimeter play out a step and hopefully will allow for more inside play.  Now, collapsing into the lane to double a post player and then running back out to defend a three on a kick out takes an extra step or two.  The extra step may cause more open looks.  I hope this doesn't hurt Calvin's style of defense.

NW Hope Fan

   
Quote from: realist on December 04, 2008, 04:00:50 PM
Sac:  Interesting observation.  I understand the dual lines, but to my way of thinking it would be easier for the players, and the refs. if the area from the front (inside) edge of the female line to the back of the outside edge of the male line were solid (filled in).


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Quote from: NW Hope Fan on August 04, 2008, 05:49:18 PM
Quote from: ziggy on August 04, 2008, 04:02:58 PM


Ah yes, notice the double three point lines.  I know it is petty but I don't like the way it looks. 

I still think a thick solid line would look the best...
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SKOT

the top 2 pages that pop up when i hit the "d" key in my web browser collided yesterday. 

deadspin.com posted this yesterday.  figured I would share it w/ my other favorite d website!  Its a pretty crazy sequence of events from a SUNY vs SUNY game this weekend

http://deadspin.com/5101369/amazing-over+the+head-shot-caps-furious-finish

OC_SID

Quote from: SKOT on December 04, 2008, 04:59:51 PM
the top 2 pages that pop up when i hit the "d" key in my web browser collided yesterday. 

deadspin.com posted this yesterday.  figured I would share it w/ my other favorite d website!  Its a pretty crazy sequence of events from a SUNY vs SUNY game this weekend

http://deadspin.com/5101369/amazing-over+the+head-shot-caps-furious-finish

There is also coverage of the shot along with an interview with the player on the front page of d3hoops.com ... The footage is from ESPN First Take, yesterday.

monsoon

Safe travels for those of you making the drive around the lake tomorrow.

Dark Knight

I suppose an OC SID wouldn't be able to comment if Olivet were leaving the MIAA but it wasn't yet announced.

However, an OC SID should be able to deny the rumor if it isn't true, right?  ;)

realist

Quote from: OC_SID on December 04, 2008, 05:04:27 PM
Quote from: SKOT on December 04, 2008, 04:59:51 PM
the top 2 pages that pop up when i hit the "d" key in my web browser collided yesterday. 

deadspin.com posted this yesterday.  figured I would share it w/ my other favorite d website!  Its a pretty crazy sequence of events from a SUNY vs SUNY game this weekend

http://deadspin.com/5101369/amazing-over+the+head-shot-caps-furious-finish

There is also coverage of the shot along with an interview with the player on the front page of d3hoops.com ... The footage is from ESPN First Take, yesterday.

Been there, done that.  I am sure my (few) remaining friends from Hope still have Knighmares about Aaron Winkle's shot (3)  in 2000, not to mention Nate Burgess vs. Franklin in the NCAA tourney.  see de javu :) Granted the young man had a memorable few moments, but shots of this nature seem to happen every year.  "Karma is not money"!! Please take as much as you want.  131
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thealmascots


I like the new line in the men's game so far.  It takes the perimeter play out a step and hopefully will allow for more inside play.  Now, collapsing into the lane to double a post player and then running back out to defend a three on a kick out takes an extra step or two.  The extra step may cause more open looks.  I hope this doesn't hurt Calvin's style of defense.
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Just curious what style of defense you are referring to that Calvin plays.
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sac

Quote from: realist on December 04, 2008, 07:53:06 PM

Been there, done that.  I am sure my (few) remaining friends from Hope still have Knighmares about Aaron Winkle's shot (3)  in 2000, not to mention Nate Burgess vs. Franklin in the NCAA tourney.  see de javu :) Granted the young man had a memorable few moments, but shots of this nature seem to happen every year.  "Karma is not money"!! Please take as much as you want.  131

My brain just did a loop de loop.........that was NINE years ago.

Gregory Sager

Quote from: oldknight on December 03, 2008, 10:41:57 PM
There is only a small handful of people I could truly call great and remarkable. William Spoelhof was one such person. If you ever get a chance to read anything about the exploits of this amazing man, take the time to do so. RIP Dr. Spoelhof.

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I need to supplement my earlier post with my favorite Dr. Spoelhof story--told to me only a couple of years ago--and which happens to be sports related. This story comes from an acquaintance who is now a Grand Rapids area attorney. He was a student at Calvin in the 1960's and played soccer for the Knights.

The team took a long road trip into Indiana and on the return home the bus stopped for dinner at an Indiana restaurant just south of the Michigan border. The soccer team got some stares from other restaurant patrons. A nervous manager came over to tell the team they could not be served unless the team's lone black player would return to the bus. The black player took the request in stride but my acquaintance and his friends were furious. They promptly left the restaurant in a huff and on the way out took the time to put their soccer training to use on some of the furniture. Some of the chairs also wound being stacked (not all that neatly) on the now vacated tables, and a few salt and pepper dispensers found their way on to the Calvin bus. A wise bus driver quickly high tailed it to the Michigan border.

A couple of days later my acquaintance and a couple of other players were summoned to the President's office where they were met by a grim faced Dr. Spoelhof. He advised that Calvin had received an Indiana State Police report detailing damage done by the school's soccer team and suggesting that the team members find their way back to Indiana for charges. After giving a full explanation of events by the summoned players, Dr. Spoelhof, in a stern tone, said, "Let me ask you just one question; would Jesus Christ approve of your behavior in this circumstance?" The future barrister, quaking as if appeaing for his first hearing before the Supreme Court, mustered all the courage he had in order to firmly answer with a "Yes."

"Well, so do I" responded Dr. Spoelhof. He then added that he was going to tell the Indiana authorities that if they wanted to arrest the team they could come to Knollcrest and try to do so, but that as college President, he thought his friends at the Grand Rapids Press would be interested in the entire, unedited story of what happened.

The restaurant chose not to press the matter further.

The respect these players had for Dr. Spoelhof--who refused to throw the school's soccer team under the school bus--grew enormously as a result of his response. It's a remarkable story about a remarkable man who was by temperment, upbringing, training, and occupation, a conservative man serving an even more conservative constituency. Yet, he courageously faced a potentially unpleasant event by backing his soccer team at a time when they needed him to be their friend. Truly a man for all seasons.

Great story, OK. Thanks for sharing it. He sounds like he was a pretty remarkable man, indeed.
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Gregory Sager

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Quote from: sac on December 04, 2008, 11:29:17 AM
By the way

while watching the Hope women's game last night it occurred to me that maybe the new men's 3pt line will impact the women more.  Hope took 18 3 point shots and I'd wager half of those were from behind the men's line.  The only one Carrie Snikkers made was at least a foot behind that line.

If I remember right there were 3 instances of traveling, where the ladies were trying to set their feet between the lines.

I've commented on CCIW Chat that as the scorekeeper for the NPU women's team I've noticed the exact same things taking place from all the teams in the women's games that I've seen thus far. NPU now seems to be avoiding this problem by not attempting any treys whatsoever. ;)

Quote from: SKOT on December 04, 2008, 04:59:51 PM
the top 2 pages that pop up when i hit the "d" key in my web browser collided yesterday. 

deadspin.com posted this yesterday.  figured I would share it w/ my other favorite d website!  Its a pretty crazy sequence of events from a SUNY vs SUNY game this weekend

http://deadspin.com/5101369/amazing-over+the+head-shot-caps-furious-finish

Once Pat finds out that you're highlighting stuff from another website that was featured on the front page of this website, you're in for a tongue-lashing. :D

Quote from: monsoon on December 04, 2008, 05:53:00 PM
Safe travels for those of you making the drive around the lake tomorrow.

My thoughts as well. Looking forward to Friday night's games!
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calalum

It is still snowing on this side of the lake.  Hope to drive out of it by the time I get around the bottom of the lake. (No I am not going through Just around).  MIAA will need all the fans we can get tonight.  See you there.

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Weather report here says the snow is supposed to be done by noon or so - perfect for us, since we're hitting the road at 1.

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