Pep Bands vs. Canned Music at Football Games

[AUPepBand]

I've been known to change lyrics to my liking. Are these lyrics PC?

"I don't want to work,
I just want to post on PP all day."

[kickerdad]

I think all schools should use either pep bands or get a local high school band to come in and play. Some of this pre game crap they play is terrible.
You can't understand it, it gives you a headache and it is just lousy football
music.

They should be playing more sport music, fight songs, etc. Averett
got a band to do half time this year from Bluestone High School out
of Skipwith, Virginia and they were great. Not a sour note and great music.

Averett still does the crappy music pre-game. I think I will make them
a new CD to play.  But being I am old fashion they will probably put it
in the trash.

[AUPepBand]

What are NCAA regulations pertaining to playing of an instrument (drum) while leading cheers during a QB cadence? DEFENSE! beat beat, DEFENSE! beat beat, etc.

If prohibited, does said NCAA regulation also pertain to use of cowbells to make noise during opposing QB's cadence?

During a recent game, AUPepBand was instructed by an AU grad assistant to stop beating the drum during QB cadence or AU would be assessed a 5-yard penalty. Don't recall it being an issue before then.

[theoriginalupstate]

What are NCAA regulations pertaining to playing of an instrument (drum) while leading cheers during a QB cadence? DEFENSE! beat beat, DEFENSE! beat beat, etc.

If prohibited, does said NCAA regulation also pertain to use of cowbells to make noise during opposing QB's cadence?

During a recent game, AUPepBand was instructed by an AU grad assistant to stop beating the drum during QB cadence or AU would be assessed a 5-yard penalty. Don't recall it being an issue before then.

I dont know Pep, i just quickly skimmed 253 pages of NCAA rules and didnt see anything of the sort....

[ADL70]

IMHO bands should stop playing when the O comes to the line.  (I've notice the Ohio Wesleyan pep band playing even when their team's O was at the line).  If there is a rule that applies,  it's probably the same one for crowd noise.

[AUPepBand]

IMHO bands should stop playing when the O comes to the line.  (I've notice the Ohio Wesleyan pep band playing even when their team's O was at the line).  If there is a rule that applies,  it's probably the same one for crowd noise.

AU Pep Band NEVER plays MUSIC once an offensive unit comes to the line. Even if in the middle of a song (i.e. started late during time out), the band stops. However, all season, AUPepBand has used drum to accompany "Defense!" chants without any complaints; then in recent game, officials told AU sideline that we couldn't use drum during opposing team's cadence. Seems petty.

A few years ago, AU Pep Band was addressed BEFORE the game by an official who stated that the band was NOT to play once the opponent (same opponent as this year's incident) has gone to the line of scrimmage. AU would be given one warning....a second occurrence would result in a 5-yard penalty.

Just wondering whether that's an NCAA regulation. Guess I'll do a little research.

[pg04]

IMHO bands should stop playing when the O comes to the line.  (I've notice the Ohio Wesleyan pep band playing even when their team's O was at the line).  If there is a rule that applies,  it's probably the same one for crowd noise.

AU Pep Band NEVER plays MUSIC once an offensive unit comes to the line. Even if in the middle of a song (i.e. started late during time out), the band stops. However, all season, AUPepBand has used drum to accompany "Defense!" chants without any complaints; then in recent game, officials told AU sideline that we couldn't use drum during opposing team's cadence. Seems petty.

A few years ago, AU Pep Band was addressed BEFORE the game by an official who stated that the band was NOT to play once the opponent (same opponent as this year's incident) has gone to the line of scrimmage. AU would be given one warning....a second occurrence would result in a 5-yard penalty.

Just wondering whether that's an NCAA regulation. Guess I'll do a little research.

Hmmm... I wonder which opponent it is, I wonder.....

[AUPepBand]

It wasn't Ithaca.

[AUPepBand]

Alright, after some research, AUPepBand has discovered that the NCAA Football Rules Committee in February 2006 voted to eliminate Rule 3-3-3-f-4 regarding crowd noise.

Rule 3-3-3-f-4, Referee's Discretionary Timeout
Change: To delete the rule relating to excessive crowd noise.

Rationale: This rule is rarely used in the game currently, as most teams use hand signals to communicate. Additionally, this rule is largely unenforceable.

The NCAA Division III Football Playoff Handbook, however, states that:

Appendix H...15. Proper crowd control must be in place at all times. Security for the visiting team is a priority. Artificial noisemakers are not allowed....17.Band shall not be allowed to play after the ball has been declared ready for play by the referee.

Likewise, the ECAC D3 Bowl Games prohibit artificial noisemakers:

Artificial noisemakers, air horns and electronic amplifiers shall not be permitted, and such instruments shall be removed from the playing field and spectator areas. Bands or any component thereof, shall not play while the game is in progress. The tournament manager shall be responsible for enforcing these provisions.

These refer, respectively, to NCAA and ECAC post-season contests. However, during NCAA regular season contests, it's my understanding from the elimination of Rule 3-3-3-f-4, artificial noisemakers, drums, etc. are not prohibited.

AUPepBand asks that he be corrected if he is in error here.

[TigerDad]

Last Saturday at the Sewanee @ Trinity (TX) game, the Alamo City Marching Band was in attendance.  The 50-or-so-piece marching band is made up of San Antonio community members of all adult ages ("18 to 75") who enjoy playing in the marching band. Instead of "canned music", the Trinity PA announcer invited the band to play before & during the game ... and also at halftime.

Out of respect for the players and coaches on the field, the band director always stopped the band in mid-song when either team came to the line of scrimmage.

IT WAS TERRIFIC!  Many parents and fans commented how great it was to have a "real band" and how much it contributed to the atmosphere of the game.

Thanks to The Alamo City Marching Band (http://www.alamocityband.org/) for their high-spirited performance on behalf of the Trinity Tigers.

TWO BIG THUMBS UP.

[frank uible]

The custom in much of DIA is to have the home team band play after the game with (if the home team won) their headgear on backwards.

['gro]

canned music for pregame, pep band for in-game... that is unless the band knows some wu-tang.

[Ron Boerger]

Last Saturday at the Sewanee @ Trinity (TX) game, the Alamo City Marching Band was in attendance. 

As a community band/orchestra musician and Trinity alumnus, I wonder why TU can't have its own marching band.  Many smaller ASC schools do, after all.   Anyone there who would say money or numbers is a concern should get their head examined.  A school of 3000 kids should be able to support a decent band!!

Kudos to the ACMB for filling in, but geez. 

[AUPepBand]

Last Saturday at the Sewanee @ Trinity (TX) game, the Alamo City Marching Band was in attendance. 

As a community band/orchestra musician and Trinity alumnus, I wonder why TU can't have its own marching band.  Many smaller ASC schools do, after all.   Anyone there who would say money or numbers is a concern should get their head examined.  A school of 3000 kids should be able to support a decent band!!

Kudos to the ACMB for filling in, but geez. 

AU brought in high school marching bands to the tune of $200-$250 a game for halftime performances. Once AU Pep Band was officially started in 2001, playing DURING the games but not performing at halftime, AU discontinued paying high school bands.

Grove City College has an outstanding marching band that plays both prior to and during halftime of their home games. Must cost the college big money to outfit the band that probably numbers 150. But the band did not have any impact on the game as it did not raise an instrument during the game.

AU Pep Band functions on a shoe string budget. Actually is a student-operated club but with the endorsement and some suport of the Performing Arts Division (which purchases some music, loans instruments, etc.) Band uniform is nothing more than kids wearing jeans with a $5 t-shirt with band's logo on front stating "AU Pep Band...Sound of the Saxons" and "Got Spirit?" on the back. It can be done cheaply. But someone needs to make connections with prospective members. Helps to find an instrumentalist with a football fetish.

[Tuxguy]

Linfield pep band update......
The revival of the Linfield pep band was a huge success this year. They won over many hearts with nice crisp clean tunes. The young Lady behind it all was Abby, a student conductor. Great job Abby. 

The last game of the year was at Lewis and Clark in Portland. They have just brought back football after only playing 4 games last year. No pep band, but they did bring in a High School from the area to play. Great idea, and was fun for the kids I'm sure.