MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[showtimeSmyHero]

da_foreigner... you going to their first games?

[bigregg]

Larry Welton gets better everyday.  Right now there's no one, at least within the conference, that can even consider matching up with him.  Not to mention that Aurora as a team basically reloaded their 2 and 3 spots with a fairly strong recruiting class at both positions.  If they play good Aurora defense and can rebound with the taller teams for 40 minutes there's no doubt that the Pool B bids are down to 3.

[Big_Uns]

I don't know how you can say that WLC will win it this year, especially after that horrid collapse at Concordia in the tournament last year. They lost Christensen, they're best player, and I didn't see that Brian Hagel could play hard-nosed post play in the few times I saw them, including the game when they got destroyed at Lakeland.

Edgewood lost a lot of players, but still have Cooper and Averkamp returning. They have the best inside game, but I'm not sure they have the guards to get them the ball.

Lakeland has the guards, but lost Zeck, and has unproven new guys coming in (The freshmen: 6'7" 232 Scott, 6'6" 225 Ozluk, 6'4" 220 Rogers; and the junior transfer 6'4" 232 Coleman).

MSOE also has the guards. Those guys can ball.

As for Concordia, Wietor's gone. Best players here: A. Johnson, who has the ability to shoot the lights out, and Peets, who played very well, basically carried Concordia through the final minutes, in that aforementioned tournament game against WLC.

Due to the overall lack of balance in these teams, I'm going to predict that there will be a lot of lopsided victories in the league this year, and that the top five spots in the conference are well up for grabs for any of these teams.

[Big_Uns]

I don't know how you can say that WLC will win it this year, especially after that horrid collapse at Concordia in the tournament last year. They lost Christensen, their best player, and I didn't see that Brian Hagel could play hard-nosed post play in the few times I saw them, including the game when they got destroyed at Lakeland.

Edgewood lost a lot of players, but still have Cooper and Averkamp returning. They have the best inside game, but I'm not sure they have the guards to get them the ball.

Lakeland has the guards, but lost Zeck, and has unproven new guys coming in (The freshmen: 6'7" 232 Scott, 6'6" 225 Ozluk, 6'4" 220 Rogers; and the junior transfer 6'4" 232 Coleman).

MSOE also has the guards. Those guys can ball.

As for Concordia, Wietor's gone. Best players here: A. Johnson, who has the ability to shoot the lights out, and Peets, who played very well, basically carried Concordia through the final minutes, in that aforementioned tournament game against WLC.

Due to the overall lack of balance in these teams, I'm going to predict that there will be a lot of lopsided victories in the league this year, and that the top five spots in the conference are well up for grabs for any of these teams.

[jgatz33]

did peets graduate? also what is the name of the transfer to msoe from superior?? and are any of the lakeland big men skilled because of they are they could be tougth this year with saberlich and james at the gaurds and the return of nick howard at a 3 and ehnert at a 4

[Big_Uns]

did peets graduate? also what is the name of the transfer to msoe from superior?? and are any of the lakeland big men skilled because of they are they could be tougth this year with saberlich and james at the gaurds and the return of nick howard at a 3 and ehnert at a 4

jgatz33,

Concordia has Peets listed on their new roster. And in my previous post I went through the big men for Lakeland. I haven't heard anything about their skill, but they seem to have the size (6'7" 232, 6'6" 220 at 4 and 5).

[luv d3hoops]

Were did this new talant come from? And will this new talant be able to stay strong with powerhouse like Weslyen.

[Bust Ya'll]

I don't know how you can say that WLC will win it this year, especially after that horrid collapse at Concordia in the tournament last year. They lost Christensen, they're best player, and I didn't see that Brian Hagel could play hard-nosed post play in the few times I saw them, including the game when they got destroyed at Lakeland.

Well, lets see.  The WLC weight room has been very active this offseason.  Along with a little program called PEP (which is a preformance enhancement program).  Hagel and Miller got beefed.  And it doesnt really matter since both of them are just as comfortable on the three as they are in the post.  And yes it is sad that Kevin is gone, but that only opens up the game to a more team based style of play.  Not that KC was a ball hog, but he was such a strong player that the option to take it to the hole was always there.  If that isnt enough, my inside sources tell me that there is a new WLC frosh who can really bang down in the post: he goes by the name of Pat Kriegel (who has been now enshrined on D3 and cannot let me down). 

Not to hate on all of your teams.... I have played with some people from MSOE over the summer and i think they will run away with the conference title this year. 

     *WHO are you?  Just because your scrub self played with MSOE during the summer doesnt mean that they will do any damage!  Hey but I played with some guys at the YMCA and they were pretty good, I think they could beat all LMC teams...Hey Showtimeyourzero, stop being ridiculous.

Bust Ya'll

PS- Watch for a new and improved 6th Man this year- 4 words..we got a sponsor.   SORRY BOUT IT

[321inandout]

I think there will many great conterneders from Lk. MI. Conf.

[The Way]

The Way I See It,

Sponsor or no sponsor the 6th man is, always has been, and always will be.....WEAK!! Proclaiming yourself and your handful of buddies that show up for every game of the year does not constitute a 6th man. In fact, until i see differently out of your little group, I will refer to it as the 6th woman. You only get a decent turn out when there is a game that actually means something (and don't tell me i don't know what i am talking about because i have been to plenty of WLC games in the past). You have no notable guard play to speak about; your post only wants to camp and shoot 3's; and you have no go to guy anymore. But i will go on to say that i am going to miss seeing KC cry to the refs. That was worth the admission right there.

Oh and Busty,,,the little Nurses from Marian will definitely finish higher than your beloved WLC. Marian is my sleeper team this year. I just hope that your sponsor for the 6th woman is some sort of beer. Cause you are going to need it after many of those WLC losses....Sorry Bout It!

[Bust Ya'll]

Well, The "Gay" Way- I will agree with you on one point: It would be sweet if we had a beer sponsor.  With that said, I think you are on crack.

Now, think about this for a little bit- maybe our post doesnt sit out at the 3 line, but our 6-8 gaurd has a shot from out there?  Can you comprehend that?  And we have at least 4 go to guys.  KC stood out because (sorry guys) he was better then all of our starters now.  But with that said, he wasnt outstandingly better where all the other players just sucked.  Like I said before this will only open up more team play- Look at it like this-  Lewis is the brain- distributing the ball, Stephan is the legs moving the ball quickly, Miller and Hagel are the hands slapping the other teams with the PTS and Kriegel*  will be the muscle to keep it going down low.   

As for the turnout, it is far better then any other school I have attended and makes a far louder noise.  Except by the Baptists in their tin shed, which naturally makes it louder then our ginourmous facility.  And how do you figure KC cried to the refs?  Thats a captain being a leader and showing the refs the errors of their way.  Your telling me Zeck, Mikos or even that Cooper fellow were any better?  You must be another one of the many that KC smoked back in the day-or girlfriend that he got with...either way- Sorry bout the bad feelings.  Its just like when everyone hated Admiral Nelson, and its the same reason everyone hates the Yankees...When your that good people shy away from you. 

Oh and that little Nurses team...I guess I will agree with you on that point too.  Because that is exactly what will happen- they will stay asleep for conference.  Maybe they will pull out an unexpected here and there, but over all finish in the bottom half.

Bust Yall

PS- nice shot with the 6th Woman thing, never heard it before...oh wait, yeah I have from like every other previous poster- way to keep things fresh.  Oh and please send me an update to the "Becoming a 6th Man Rules" since I have seem to have lost mine. 

*Im preclaiming him starting

[The Way]

The Way I See It,

It's good to see Busty is back. I commend him on his enthusiasm for his team as it is unmatched on this board. I question his analysis and commentary though. (Hold for a minute as i need to go snort a fresh line as Busty made it clear of my crack fetish).

Let me make one point clear. I am not a KC hater nor has KC ever showed me up or attempted to get with any of my girlfriends. I didn't question his ability on the court or say he was a bad player.  Nor did i say that nobody else in the league complained either. I merely said i will miss seeing him complain.

And Busty, have you been to the last 6 or 7 games up in lakeland when WLC played? Cause i was there for all of them and the Lakeland contingent by far outnumbered the 6th Woman (most of the times doubling or tripling)! And if you were there you probably left at halftime since most of the games were out of reach already. And don't tell me you guys are loud at your gym either because the size of the gym eats up any noise you guys make. In fact, as a player the noise never really was a factor there.

The only smart move i have seen out of WLC in the last few years was one made by Chris Walls and that being he quit the team and went to work for the Bucks as one of their entertainment guys.

[Bust Ya'll]

The "Gay" Way,
Never once did I claim our gym to be loud, I actually do not like our gym since it is about twice as big as it needs to be.  And naturally, a campus that has more then 800 students on it (which is what WLC has) will double, no wait, in fact triple our attendance.  Per capita I would say we bring it strong...and I have never left at halftime for a Warrior game, dont ever defame my name by implying that again. 
Besides...remember that most of us are students, suffice it to say, but the 1 hr trip to Lakeland in under a coons butt Wisconsin, shows dedication.  Our students that go to Lakeland contend with your student section just fine...as a matter of fact, I would say there were days when we annoyed and out cheered you.  Inbetween shucking corn and killing the cows what else can you do besides a Bball game in the middle of that corn field? 

Anywho, this petty argument must end and you must now find a reason why my boys have any less of a chance this year.  And Chris Walls is closer to the NBA then any one of your players ever will get...
 Bust Ya'll

[Big_Uns]

And Chris Walls is closer to the NBA then any one of your players ever will get...
Bust Ya'll

...And for a second there I thought we were talking about D-III basketball...Wow, thanks for clearing that up.

[The Way]

The Way I See It

I like Chris Walls. I was giving him a compliment.

Now on a more serious note and all petty nonsense aside, Busty don't kid yourself. WLC is not a post dominant team nor do they have solid post play. Here is a recap of last year's field goals taken by your 'post' players:

Miller: 121 out of 205 shots were 3's (59% of total)
Hagel:  161 out of 296 were 3's (55% of total)
Neither of them averaged more than 5 rebounds a game last year.

That does not constitute post play.

Here is a look at your guards now:

Lewis "the brain" Jiles had 11 more TO's than assists last year. His FG% is good but he lacks the consistent outside shot.
Stephan "legs" Spath cannot shoot outside period (38% FG and a whopping 15% on 3's). And he had the same amount of TO's as assists.

You need guards to be able to shoot outside not the posts. And to top things all off, you have no bench to speak of.

These are solid facts and not opinions. Now if you will excuse me, the corn fields need tending to.