MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 05, 2016, 04:22:42 PM

Yep - it was a typo that should have read WBB. But considering the point in time it was discovered, there was absolutely NO time to go back and fix all the posts on these boards.

Captain_Joe08 · February 06, 2016, 11:21:40 AM

No biggie Dave. Always enjoy listening to your show.

Ryan Stoppable · February 07, 2016, 01:53:42 PM

Saturday
#3 Benedictine 86 Wisconsin Lutheran 62
Marian 91 Concordia Chicago 66
Lakeland 86 Dominican 57
Rockford 76 Edgewood 65
(ARV) Aurora 87 MSOE 79

Really no surprises here.

NACC Standings - as of February 7
1. #3 Benedictine 17-0 (22-0) (c)
2. (ARV) Aurora 13-3 (17-4) (x)
3. Concordia Wisconsin 10-6 (12-9)
4. Lakeland 9-8 (13-9)
4. Rockford 9-8 (12-9)
6. Wisconsin Lutheran 8-8 (10-11)
---
6. MSOE 8-8 (11-10)
8. Marian 7-9 (10-11)
9. Concordia Chicago 4-12 (5-16)
10. Dominican 2-13 (4-16) (e)
11. Edgewood 2-14 (2-19) (e)
(c) Clinched at least a share of the NACC title and No. 1 seed; (x) clinched NACC Tournament berth; (e) eliminated from postseason contention

The reduction to a six team conference tournament this year has certainly raised the drama in the middle of the standings; instead of being battles for seeding, games like Lakeland hosting MSOE and Wisconsin Lutheran traveling to Concordia Wisconsin, both of which happen Tuesday night, take on the utmost importance.

Ryan Stoppable · February 09, 2016, 10:59:49 PM

Tuesday
Concordia Wisconsin 88 Wisconsin Lutheran 80
(ARV) Aurora 99 Dominican 79
#2 Benedictine 111 Concordia Chicago 59
Edgewood 87 Marian 85
MSOE 77 Lakeland 70
Rockford 98 Illinois Tech 73 (nc)

With their win tonight, the Benedictine Eagles are officially the 2015-16 NACC Champions! It's their second consecutive title, having shared the championship with Aurora last season. Concordia Wisconsin also clinched a conference tournament berth with their win.

And speaking of teams named the Eagles, Edgewood picks up their 3rd win of the season, shocking Marian on a Spencer Barnes 30 footer at the final buzzer and dealing a crushing blow to the Sabres' postseason hopes.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 10, 2016, 12:14:37 AM

Well, let's be fair. They are the regular season champions. The actual champs are crowned as the end of the tournament and given an AQ to get into said tournament.

Mr. Ypsi · February 10, 2016, 12:21:50 AM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 10, 2016, 12:14:37 AM
Well, let's be fair. They are the regular season champions. The actual champs are crowned as the end of the tournament and given an AQ to get into said tournament.

Not necessarily true. I don't know about the NACC, but in many conferences the regular season champion is THE champion, while the tourney champion is indeed given the AQ.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 10, 2016, 01:08:56 AM

Fine... though, in the eyes of the NCAA - the AQ is the conference champion and addressed as such.

badgerwarhawk · February 10, 2016, 09:31:00 AM

In the WIAC the regular season champion is the conference champion and the conference tournament champion is referred to as such. Why the automatic bid goes to a team that wins two (or three) games rather than the one that prevailed over fourteen (previously sixteen) games is another matter. I chalk that up to the fact that there are more have not than haves.

AppletonRocks · February 10, 2016, 09:50:07 AM

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on February 10, 2016, 09:31:00 AM
In the WIAC the regular season champion is the conference champion and the conference tournament champion is referred to as such. Why the automatic bid goes to a team that wins two (or three) games rather than the one that prevailed over fourteen (previously sixteen) games is another matter. I chalk that up to the fact that there are more have not than haves.

So the Warhawks have a chance.........

Just Bill · February 10, 2016, 10:13:42 AM

Quote from: Dave 'd-mac' McHugh on February 10, 2016, 01:08:56 AM
Fine... though, in the eyes of the NCAA - the AQ is the conference champion and addressed as such.

Not really Dave. The NCAA doesn't declare anyone a conference champion. All they ask is "Who is your automatic qualifier?" In the selection show the NCAA refers to the "automatic qualifier out of the _______ conference." The regular season champion IS the conference champion in the WIAC and the NACC and most other leagues.

So if you want to say the AQ is actually more important, you could argue that, but you can't argue that they are the "actual" champion. The conference sets the rules and they've deemed it to be the regular season champion.

http://naccsports.org/sports/mbkb/2015-16/releases/20160210ea5hzz

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 10, 2016, 01:58:14 PM

Regional Rankings: http://www.d3blogs.com/d3hoops/2016/02/10/first-2016-regional-rankings-released-today/

bbfan44 · February 11, 2016, 05:15:31 PM

What a pity there are no big time Benedictine fans that post in this room to talk about the great year the team is having.

I hope they win out, win the Conference Tournament and host some NCAA games. It's a lot easier to get to Lisle than to Rock Island ! (for me, a CCIW follower)

Ryan Stoppable · February 12, 2016, 12:07:45 AM

Quote from: bbfan44 on February 11, 2016, 05:15:31 PM
What a pity there are no big time Benedictine fans that post in this room to talk about the great year the team is having.

I hope they win out, win the Conference Tournament and host some NCAA games. It's a lot easier to get to Lisle than to Rock Island ! (for me, a CCIW follower)

And they very well might. Although I've only seen them once so far (as the return meeting isn't until the 20th), what really jumped out at me is how balanced they are. There's no one offensive player you can focus on - which is a problem, because they all can beat you - and there's no one player you can pick on on the defensive end.

Thursday
Marian 80 Dominican 68

This is probably a good time to brush up on your NACC tiebreaker criteria, with five teams separated by 1 1/2 games for the final three spots in the NACC Tournament. Rockford hosting Marian is the big one in that regard on Saturday.

Just Bill · February 12, 2016, 01:30:46 PM

I don't think any NACC team beats Benedictine and they go into the NCAA Tournament at 27-0. Since they would presumably remain the #1 Central Region team, they'd almost certainly host the first two rounds. I could imagine a second round rematch of Benedictine and Elmhurst in the NCAA Tournament. Frankly even if they did lose to a NACC team, I still think they host a 1st/2nd round pod.

Dave 'd-mac' McHugh · February 12, 2016, 02:57:25 PM

Quote from: Just Bill on February 12, 2016, 01:30:46 PM
I don't think any NACC team beats Benedictine and they go into the NCAA Tournament at 27-0. Since they would presumably remain the #1 Central Region team, they'd almost certainly host the first two rounds. I could imagine a second round rematch of Benedictine and Elmhurst in the NCAA Tournament. Frankly even if they did lose to a NACC team, I still think they host a 1st/2nd round pod.

They certainly could go in as the number one or number two... there are other items like vRRO that will come out that could help or hurt Benedictine (compared to other teams). So let's see where they get slotted next week.

As for second round match-up... I would be shocked if they saw Elmhurst. There are so many good teams in the Central and Great Lakes regions that it isn't that hard to move many of these teams away from each other in first weekend. Elmhurst is a prime candidate to be sent up towards St. Thomas or even eastward into the Great Lakes. The committee really tries to avoid common region match-ups if they can... and considering these two teams already faced off this season, I suspect they will try and avoid a first weekend match up.

As for whether they lose... that might actually cost them a first weekend hosting opportunity. However, there are so many factors in place that I think it is really hard to gauge that off just the first week's rankings.