MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[Gregory Sager]

Doesn't matter what the official name is. Greg Sager considers it Concordia (IL) because it's in River Forest, not Chicago...and what Sager says, goes.

[WUPHF]

It's too bad that Lakeland, Concordia WI, Dominican and Marian all lose out on this as well.

The website says these schools have been awarded administrative forfeit victories.

[Gregory Sager]

The Concordia University Chicago (full, official, legal name) athletics website is still advertising the weekend events scheduled in conjunction with the game.  As for the games, the NACC website indicates that the games have been forfeited.

https://naccsports.org/standings.aspx?path=mbball

They're forfeited in terms of league standings, but not in terms of Concordia (IL)'s actual W-L record. As the NACC website indicates, the Cougars still have an 8-2 overall record. In other words, the forfeits aren't going to damage the winning percentage criterion of the Cougars with regard to Pool C or (if they should be fortunate enough to make the D3 tourney field) their seeding. The forfeits are just going to make it harder for them to win the NACC tourney because they'll lower the team's seed.

[WUPHF]

I think I may go get a "Chicago dog" from my favorite Overland, Missouri based hot dog stand before the big game tonight.

By the way, the reportage suggests that Coach Kollar has been retained as head coach.  My guess is that this is the right call, based on very limited information.

[WUPHF]

They're forfeited in terms of league standings, but not in terms of Concordia (IL)'s actual W-L record. As the NACC website indicates, the Cougars still have an 8-2 overall record. In other words, the forfeits aren't going to damage the winning percentage criterion of the Cougars with regard to Pool C or (if they should be fortunate enough to make the D3 tourney field) their seeding. The forfeits are just going to make it harder for them to win the NACC tourney because they'll lower the team's seed.

Correct!  I was leaving it to others to figure out the ramifications for themselves.

[Gregory Sager]

I think I may go get a "Chicago dog" from my favorite Overland, Missouri based hot dog stand before the big game tonight.

By the way, the reportage suggests that Coach Kollar has been retained as head coach.  My guess is that this is the right call, based on very limited information.

I believe in second chances, and, given that nobody was permanently injured, I can get behind the administration's letting Kollar keep his job. I'm sure that he'll be much more circumspect about how he doles out discipline to his teams in the future.

[Next Man Up]

Head Coach Steve Kollar was allowed to return to campus to resume his administrative duties as of today.
IF the date on which he will resume actual coaching duties has been determined, it has not yet been publicized. Assistant Coach Surles will handle those duties until such time as Kollar has been returned to full status.
CURF's next scheduled game is Tuesday at Rockford.

[kiko]

They're forfeited in terms of league standings, but not in terms of Concordia (IL)'s actual W-L record. As the NACC website indicates, the Cougars still have an 8-2 overall record. In other words, the forfeits aren't going to damage the winning percentage criterion of the Cougars with regard to Pool C or (if they should be fortunate enough to make the D3 tourney field) their seeding. The forfeits are just going to make it harder for them to win the NACC tourney because they'll lower the team's seed.

<raises a glass in the direction of whomever is in charge of the code for the portion of the d3hoops.com site that deals with schedules, results, and conference standings...>

[Greek Tragedy]

It's too bad that Lakeland, Concordia WI, Dominican and Marian all lose out on this as well.

The website says these schools have been awarded administrative forfeit victories.

True, but they lose out on playing games. If given the choice of playing a game with the possibility of losing or just getting a forfeit win, most, if not all, student athletes would probably pick the former.

[Greek Tragedy]

I think I may go get a "Chicago dog" from my favorite Overland, Missouri based hot dog stand before the big game tonight.

By the way, the reportage suggests that Coach Kollar has been retained as head coach.  My guess is that this is the right call, based on very limited information.

I believe in second chances, and, given that nobody was permanently injured, I can get behind the administration's letting Kollar keep his job. I'm sure that he'll be much more circumspect about how he doles out discipline to his teams in the future.

I believe the article said they couldn't prove it was punishment/retaliation for breaking curfew, even though it was widely speculated by the players.

[Gregory Sager]

I think I may go get a "Chicago dog" from my favorite Overland, Missouri based hot dog stand before the big game tonight.

By the way, the reportage suggests that Coach Kollar has been retained as head coach.  My guess is that this is the right call, based on very limited information.

I believe in second chances, and, given that nobody was permanently injured, I can get behind the administration's letting Kollar keep his job. I'm sure that he'll be much more circumspect about how he doles out discipline to his teams in the future.

I believe the article said they couldn't prove it was punishment/retaliation for breaking curfew, even though it was widely speculated by the players.

It's the only logical conclusion, given that: a) there's never been this sort of medical-grade practice incident before involving a Kollar-coached team; and b) it happened immediately after the Cougars lost two games in Cali while breaking curfew on that same trip. But, unless Kollar openly told his players that he was working them so hard because they broke curfew, there's no legal evidence to prove the conclusion.

[Gregory Sager]

Concordia (IL)'s training staff has resigned in the wake of Kollar's reinstatement.

There are no more trainers listed in the school's athletic staff directory, just the athletic department's two physicians.

[hopefan]

I wonder if these were unpaid voluntary student trainers, or if a full or part time staff member actually gave up salary $ in dispute... if so, that is really something....
I made the acquaintance of Kollar when he was at Blackburn.... he always treated me with respect and appreciated my support of SLIAC hoops.....

[WUPHF]

Agreed!  It is hard to imagine that all four athletic trainers were independently wealthy enough to resign in protest.  Especially living in Chicago.  Or maybe athletic trainer positions are easy to come by? 

I am not saying they were asked to resign, but for all four to resign, that is peculiar.

I know the news agencies would love to talk to parents who oppose the reinstatement of Kollar, but that has yet to happen as far as I can tell.

[Next Man Up]

Agreed!  It is hard to imagine that all four athletic trainers were independently wealthy enough to resign in protest.  Especially living in Chicago.  Or maybe athletic trainer positions are easy to come by? 

I am not saying they were asked to resign, but for all four to resign, that is peculiar.

I know the news agencies would love to talk to parents who oppose the reinstatement of Kollar, but that has yet to happen as far as I can tell.

1. Why would the the trainers be asked to resign?  Did they do something wrong?
2. As far as interviewing players or parents who oppose Kollar's reinstatement, i sense there is a good possibility of this happening given that a couple of the Chicago TV stations aired reports about the incident when the story first broke.

I wonder if the primary reason Kollar was reinstated was Concordia's fast start/perfect record before the  California implosion? After all, it's not often that Concordia enjoys much success on the basketball court.