MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[diego]

All-conference in the NIIC usually consists of 10 players.  There is no second team.  They also have honorable mention for those who do not get enough votes for all-conference.

[Big_Uns]

Pat or anybody else who knows for sure,

When is the tournament selection happening?

[slydawg]

You talk about peets throwing a punch, but there was no punch thrown.  The fan hit him in the head with the flag pole.  Which protecting himself pushed him away, and he fell down.  Why was the fan on the court anyways he has no reason to be on the court.  Or by our bench for that matter.  I was told Coach Noon apologized for the fans behavior and was embarrased by WLC's behavior towards peets and coach r. 

[Greek Tragedy]

Pat or anybody else who knows for sure,

When is the tournament selection happening?

Monday.

[Big_Uns]

You talk about peets throwing a punch, but there was no punch thrown.  The fan hit him in the head with the flag pole.  Which protecting himself pushed him away, and he fell down.  Why was the fan on the court anyways he has no reason to be on the court.  Or by our bench for that matter.  I was told Coach Noon apologized for the fans behavior and was embarrased by WLC's behavior towards peets and coach r. 

Tell me why your own radio announcer said on the air that he punched a fan then. Oh, and I believe Warrior_Fish was at the game, and I'm pretty sure Busty was too.

Pat or anybody else who knows for sure,

When is the tournament selection happening?

Monday.

Thanks. That's what I thought, just making sure.

[baseman201]

Concordia handed it to Ben last night, we swept them for the season, 3-0, great game to watch.  We were really on Harrison the whole night, since he flipped us off the last time he was here.  I think we really got to them since they had 3 technicals during the game.

Sure, Clarke may be the better team, and we may not make it past them tomorrow night, but wow, winning 11 games this year over only 4 games last year is a huge improvement, and should be commended, and hopefully they can bring this momentum into next year. 

But, you never know what can happen.  Clarke could have an off night and CURF could come out on top, anything can happen. (Ben beat Aurora, and we beat Ben 3 times in a row) I am just saying, even though CURF has only won 11 games, thats almost 3 times as much as last year, so hopefully they will put together an even more competative team next season and compete for the NIIC title.

The NIIC's conference winner doesn't get an automatic bid??  Is that because of Dominican??

[crusaders]

baseman201...glad to see another niic basketball fan on here, it just gives me the opportunity to talk a little trash....clarke has beaten concordia by an average of 19 points per game this year, but good luck.  lafayette played a hell of a game up here in dubuque, and you are right, you guys have made a huge improvement this year...but you really have no chance.  clarkes got too many guns this year, the chances of 6 guys all being off on the same night just doesn't make sense.

if you're a member of the crowd, great job getting under harrison's skin, he's a good ball player but come on, he wouldn't even shake hands with clarkes team after the game, he's a head case, which is ashame. 

just so you know, yes, dominican leaving drops us below the required number of teams to get an automatic bid, and this is the last year of the NIIC, I think every team except for Clarke is going to the LMC next year to form a super conference. 

If you think you're crowd is good, bring them up to clarke...our crowd is crazy, and this being the last game the students will attend due to spring break, we'll be ready...So please, bring your crowd of students to the game, it'll be fun for the players and fans to root back and forth...plus, it WILL BE the last chance that you'll get to see CURF play this year.

[Gregory Sager]

just so you know, yes, dominican leaving drops us below the required number of teams to get an automatic bid, and this is the last year of the NIIC, I think every team except for Clarke is going to the LMC next year to form a super conference. 

No, Eureka is moving to the SLIAC. The new league, which is dubbed the Northern Athletic Conference, will consist of Alvernia (women only), Aurora, Benedictine, CURF, Concordia (WI), Dominican, Edgewood, Lakeland, Maranatha Baptist, Marian, Rockford, and Wisconsin Lutheran.

[crusaders]

i just don't know what life would be like if i didn't have gregory sager to correct my every mistake

[Gregory Sager]

i just don't know what life would be like if i didn't have gregory sager to correct my every mistake

Don't take it so personally. I wasn't correcting your mistake as much as I was simply offering the full information about the new conference.

[crusaders]

I understand that but understand that I get called out on every mistake I make by you.

And, rumor has it the Clarke celebration after the rockford game was totally honest.  Apparently the coach missed a conference meeting due to other athletic responsibilities during spring break, and was unaware of the point system implementation.  I think my math is correct, but if i'm wrong let me know...The winner of the conference would have to lose in the second round, and the second place team would have to win to make it a tie for the conference championship.  If the first place team advances to the conference championship in the tourny, then they automatically win.

Anyone find it funny that Clarke could lose to Aurora 2 out of 3 times this season and still be conference champs?(not that we would lose 2 out of 3, but just a thought)

[diego]

To my understanding, in order for Clarke to win conference they would either need Aurora to lose tonight or to win the whole thing. 

[dueceme31]

If Clarke and Aurora both advance after tonights games, the winner of the game Saturday night would be the final NIIC champ.  Clarke is not automatically the champ by just getting to the title game.  With the point system, if Aurora was to somehow upset Clarke in the conference tournament, then Aurora and Clarke would have the same amount of points with the tie breaker being the team winning the tournament.  Good luck to both squads, Aurora has a nice test this evening with Rockford traveling to Aurora.

[crusaders]

http://www.niiconline.com/men/basketball/standings.htm

NIIC champion determined by adding point value of regular season (12-10-8-6-4-2), with point value of tournament place (6-5-4-3-2-1)

1. CLARKE 9-1 15-10
12
2. AURORA 8-2 15-9
10
3t. ROCKFORD 5-5 15-11
7
3t. CONCORDIA 5-5 11-15
7
5. BENEDICTINE 3-7 10-15
4
6. EUREKA 0-10 4-22
2

Where are you guys getting your information from?  If you read off of this link, I would read it as it states.  I have tried to open my eyes and figure out any other possible way that others are reading it, but I can't.  If Clarke wins tonight that would assure them atleast second place in the tourny.  According to the NIIC Website(i wouldn't be surprised if it was wrong, that's why I'm asking if you guys know something that I don't), the second place finisher gets 5 points, and the first place finisher, in the tourny, gets 6 points.  I did take statistics last year, and using my knowledge, I have found that 12 + 5 is equal to 17, and that 10(aurora's current point value) + 6(what aurora would get if they won) is equal to 16.  Using my statistical knowledge, I can now derive that 17 is a greater number than 16, which means that if Clarke wins tonight, no one else can win the conference championship.  Also, I am confused by the website because the first round losers finished in a tie for 5th, so how many points do they get?  1.5? Because if that is the case, then tonights losers receive 3.5 points, which means that the only possible way for a champion to lose, in this system, is if they lose their first game of the tourny and the second place team wins.
Which, although this point system i think is ridiculous, is the only fair thing to do.  One week should not weigh near as much as an entire season.

Does anyone out there read the website the same way I am reading it?  Or are they aware of printed, published rules somewhere???
 

[baseman201]

Crusader-

Clarke is about 4 hours away from here.  A friday night game, we would probably make the trip, but a Wednesday night game......don't think we can pull that off, considering we would be back around 2 am.  But good luck to both teams, don't take us lightly, that's all I am saying.

Yeah, Harrison seems to be a real fireball, he had one of the technicals in the game (out of 3), and should have had another when he got into the face of our coach, pointed at him, and yelled something (don't know what though).

Yeah, Clarke has always been good, espcially last year when you had the Byrd brothers.  It was really fun to watch them play, especially since Joemi was a McDonalds All American Nominee coming out of high school.  

But let's be honest, Clarke would be 17-10 if they won the NIIC??  And let's say by some miracle they do make the NCAA tournament.  They would be slammed by at least 20+ in their first round game.  Clarke is good, but against other big time conferences?  I don't know about that.  And if they do make the tourney, they would probably be seeded last in the region, so they would have to play a powerhouse team.  But as I said before, anything is possible, this could be the year of the cinderela 17-10 team making it all the way, we just never know.  I would love to see Clarke make the tourney representing the NIIC, especially if they can pull out some miracles and make it in a couple rounds.