MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[RFMichigan]

JB: Thanks for the breakdown. On the CCIW and MIAA boards the "in-region" wins and percentages are the prevailing conversation of the preseason. I realize that the NAC will not soon get a pool C bid, but do you have the stats on which of these NCAA dIII scores are "in region"?

[John Gleich]

JB: Thanks for the breakdown. On the CCIW and MIAA boards the "in-region" wins and percentages are the prevailing conversation of the preseason preconference. I realize that the NAC will not soon get a pool C bid, but do you have the stats on which of these NCAA dIII scores are "in region"?

In-region looks even better:

vs. SLIAC - 4-0
vs. UAA - 2-0
vs. SCIAC - 1-0
vs. CCIW - 4-4
vs. IIAC - 4-4
vs. MWC - 4-4
vs. WIAC - 3-4
vs. SCAC - 0-1
(None of the MIAC should be in-region... is that correct?  Depends on distance.  And who was the SCAC opponent?  That might not be in-region.  All the others are either Midwest region or Administrative region).

22-17 =.564

[Gregory Sager]

JB: Thanks for the breakdown. On the CCIW and MIAA boards the "in-region" wins and percentages are the prevailing conversation of the preseason preconference. I realize that the NAC will not soon get a pool C bid, but do you have the stats on which of these NCAA dIII scores are "in region"?

In-region looks even better:

vs. SLIAC - 4-0
vs. UAA - 2-0
vs. SCIAC - 1-0
vs. CCIW - 4-4
vs. IIAC - 4-4
vs. MWC - 4-4
vs. WIAC - 3-4
vs. SCAC - 0-1
(None of the MIAC should be in-region... is that correct?  Depends on distance.  And who was the SCAC opponent?  That might not be in-region.  All the others are either Midwest region or Administrative region).

22-17 =.564

Minnesota is in the same NCAA administrative region (Region 4) as Illinois and Wisconsin, so NAthCon games played against MIAC opponents count as in-region.

The best way to tall in-region games is to check the schedules as listed on this site; each in-region game has an asterisk next to it.

[RFMichigan]

JB: Thanks for the breakdown. On the CCIW and MIAA boards the "in-region" wins and percentages are the prevailing conversation of the preseason preconference. I realize that the NAC will not soon get a pool C bid, but do you have the stats on which of these NCAA dIII scores are "in region"?

In-region looks even better:

vs. SLIAC - 4-0
vs. UAA - 2-0
vs. SCIAC - 1-0
vs. CCIW - 4-4
vs. IIAC - 4-4
vs. MWC - 4-4
vs. WIAC - 3-4
vs. SCAC - 0-1
(None of the MIAC should be in-region... is that correct?  Depends on distance.  And who was the SCAC opponent?  That might not be in-region.  All the others are either Midwest region or Administrative region).

22-17 =.564A

Point Special : That was fast! Thanks. (And of course that should have been "pre-conference", not "pre-season".)

[John Gleich]

I'm with stupid
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I was thinking the MIAA, not the MIAC.  Oops!

[John Gleich]

JB: Thanks for the breakdown. On the CCIW and MIAA boards the "in-region" wins and percentages are the prevailing conversation of the preseason preconference. I realize that the NAC will not soon get a pool C bid, but do you have the stats on which of these NCAA dIII scores are "in region"?

In-region looks even better:

vs. SLIAC - 4-0
vs. UAA - 2-0
vs. SCIAC - 1-0
vs. CCIW - 4-4
vs. IIAC - 4-4
vs. MWC - 4-4
vs. WIAC - 3-4
vs. SCAC - 0-1
(None of the MIAC should be in-region... is that correct?  Depends on distance.  And who was the SCAC opponent?  That might not be in-region.  All the others are either Midwest region or Administrative region).

22-17 =.564A

Point Special : That was fast! Thanks. (And of course that should have been "pre-conference", not "pre-season".)

Just saving Sager the trouble 

[John Gleich]

NathCon vs. other conferences (12/10/10)...

vs. SLIAC - 4-0
vs. UAA - 2-0
vs. SCIAC - 1-0
vs. CCIW - 4-4
vs. IIAC - 4-4
vs. MWC - 4-4
vs. WIAC - 3-4
vs. SCAC - 0-1
vs. MIAC - 0-2
vs. NCAA D-III - 22-19 (.536)

It looks to me like the game against the SCAC was Rockford/DePauw and Google Maps can't make that any closer than 265, so I highly doubt the NCAA software can.  That makes it out of region and takes away a loss:

22-18: .550

[RFMichigan]

Halftime at Benedictine - BU up 40 - 26 vs. CUC. Bennie has hit 7 - 15 3's while CUC is 1 - 6. 3 point defense has been a problem for Concordia, who I guess has struggled somewhat this year (depending on your definition of struggled). They have had 4 overtime games (three of them wins) with an additional two point loss and a three point win. The problem is that two of the close losses have been conference games and are staring at a 1-4 start in the conference if they don't come back against Benedictine. For good or for bad, it's still a pretty balanced conference from top to bottom.

CUC has a trip to California for a pair of games over the break, one of which is against NAIA - I Concordia-Irvine. Irvine won the NAIA championship a couple of years ago and always has a slew of D-I transfers. Interestingly, one of their five D-I guys this year is Taylor King who started his collegiate career at DUKE and then transferred to Villanova before going back to California where he was the California Player of the Year his senior year in high school.

[Just Bill]

BU did go on to beat CUC, but it was close. 78-74.

More good non-conference results for the NAC.  Aurora beats Elmhurst (CCIW) and Edgewood beats Knox (MWC) and Dubuque (IIAC).

[RFMichigan]

BU did go on to beat CUC, but it was close. 78-74.

More good non-conference results for the NAC.  Aurora beats Elmhurst (CCIW) and Edgewood beats Knox (MWC) and Dubuque (IIAC).

I'll give it to the NAC that they have been quite competative in most non-conference games, although it looks as though Edgewood and Aurora are two of the better conference teams while Elmhurst is struggling and Knox isn't that good.

Actually, the BU-CUC game wasn't as close as the final score. RF got a 12 point deficit with a minute to go down to 4 at the buzzer due to a pair of late threes and a couple bunnies, but they couldn't recover from a first 5 minutes where Bennie shot the lights out. 

[Just Bill]

NathCon vs. other conferences (12/22/10). Final pre-Santa non-conference numbers...

vs. SLIAC - 5-0
vs. UAA - 2-0
vs. SCIAC - 1-0
vs. UMAC - 1-0
vs. CCIW - 6-4
vs. IIAC - 5-4
vs. MWC - 5-5
vs. MIAA - 1-1
vs. WIAC - 3-5
vs. SCAC - 0-1
vs. MIAC - 0-2
vs. NCAA D-III - 29-22 (.569)

vs. NCAA II - 0-1
vs. NAIA II - 1-4
vs. USCAA - 3-0
vs. NCCAA - 3-1
vs. All - 36-28 (.563)

[John Gleich]

Great work JB.

The NathCon has been pretty impressive this season.  Usually the MWC is seen as "above" the NathCon... but especially the CCIW has, and the NathCon has the edge AND a higher in-region win percentage!

The CCIW is currently 30-23 (.566) 


Note, that was yesterday morning, doesn't take into account any of last night's games.

[Just Bill]

Dominican lost to Hope and Benedictine beat North Central, so I've updated the non-con record list heading into Xmas.

I think a combined 9-9 against the CCIW and the WIAC is pretty impressive for the NathCon.

[WLCALUM83]

Calvin/Benedictine on deck:

[WLCALUM83]

Benedictine 24, Calvin 22  10:01 left 1st half