MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[Warrior_Fish]

Lakeland      77
DU                51

[wizbegs1304]

With the new league forming next year in the (NAC) what will we expect. Rockford, Aurora, Benedictine, and Concordia (IL) combine in basketball with Edgewood, Maranatha Baptist, Concordia (WI), Lakeland, Marian, and Wisconsin Lutheran. What can we expect out of this conference next year?

[wizbegs1304]

What is everyone's predictions on the NAC next year? I know we have quite a bit to go yet with this season, but what is everyone's thoughts on the Northern Athletic Conference next year?

LMC
Alverno College
Concordia University (WI)
Dominican University
Edgewood College
Lakeland College
Maranatha Baptist Bible College
Marian College
Wisconsin Lutheran College

NIIC
Aurora College
Benedictine University
Concordia University (IL)
Rockford College

Out:
Milwaukee School of Engineering
Clarke College
Eureka College

[Big_Uns]

So MSOE escapes the REX and Lakeland crushes Dominican to set up a showdown at the Kern Center on Tuesday. I must say Lakeland holds the edge right now heading into the matchup.


Floyd Bayiha: 40 points, 3 assists...Way to go, Kobe. 

[Greek Tragedy]

Before I go on my rant of Edgewood upsetting Stevens Point down in Madison, let me get a couple of things clear. 

I am a realistic Pointer fan.  I even said before the game that Edgewood had a better chance of beating Point than Dominican had of beating Lakeland.  Though my expectations of the Pointers (maybe unfairly) are high, I don't expect the Pointers to win every game.

I give credit where credit is due, on most accounts.  When Lakeland beat Point in Sheboygan at the beginning of the year, I had nothing but praise for the Muskies.  When Point lost to Mid-America Nazerene at the Clarke tourney, I gave discredit to Point for not defending and for coach Semling not adjusting to Nazerene's only "play" (give it to #23 and let him break down the defense).

With that said, I must have seen THEE worst reffing game in the history of games last night in Madison (and I'm not talking about the Badgers losing to Minnesota in hockey).  I usually don't complain about the refs because they try to do the best they can and everyone makes mistakes.  But, this was beyond bad.  It was comical, that's how bad it was.  I walked out of the Edgedome with a smile on my face because the reffing was just nonexistent.  You know the game is going to be bad when, on the opening tip-off, the ball goes out of bounds and none of the three refs have a clue who's ball it is.  After a split second of silence, one ref asks the other ref, "Jump ball?" and the other responds, "yeah" (basically conceding, I have no clue).

Apparently the Edgewood Eagles don't play in the LMC anymore because they must play in the NBA now.  Everytime their big guy (#15) got the ball in the post, he traveled.  It was amazing that the refs just let him do it.  The key play was on Point's last possession when Krull did his patented baseline spin move and was clearl fouled as he was going up for the shot and the ref calls the foul "on the floor".  Instead of an "and 1" opportunity, he instead gets two free throws and ties the game instead of giving Point a one-point lead.  The play at the other end of the floor was just a idiotic.  A scramble for the ball results after some great defense from Point and the guy from Edgewood barely gets a handle on the ball and basically tries to throw the ball from his knees and a phantom foul is called with nearly two seconds left.  The homer scoreboard/clock operator lets the clock run down to 0.6 seconds left.  What a complete joke.

In the end, Point played like crap.  They MISSED shots that were just horrible.  Bauer tossed up two airballs and to paraphrase Rick Majerus, "[Point] could guard someone if they had a badge and a gun."  Edgewood gets credit for banging it inside to #15 because that is Point's obvious weakness.  I guess it's a lot easier when you can travel all the time.

On another note, Edgewood have got to be the biggest whiners I have ever seen.  On every possession they cried more than my younger brother when he broke the arm off of his G.I. Joe guy.  There was a foul on an Edgewood player and he basically said, "Yeah, but he carried the ball before I fouled him."  Superstar Seth Cooper was the biggest whiner of them all (not impressed at all by his basketball).  I didn't know someone could run so well in a dress and high heels because he sure cried like a little girl out there complaining constantly. 

Anyway, I'm usually not bitter after a Pointer loss.  It happens.  Lakeland played lights out when Point lost.  Point played like crap when Nazerene beat them.  But, the refs were a complete joke.  Point played horrible and yet they only lost by one because (this is the first time I've ever claimed this) the refs handed Edgewood the game.

On an unrelated matter.  The Edgedome is really weird.  I felt like I was in a rec. gym.  It looked like I was on the set of "Saved By the Bell" during the basketball scenes because everything looked smaller. The floor looked smaller and the rims looked shorter.  Was it just me?  That's not to say that's why the Pointers lost, but I've been in other LMC and smaller gyms before, but the dimensions of the EdgeDome just didn't look right, IMO.

[Bust Ya'll]

Superstar Seth Cooper was the biggest whiner of them all (not impressed at all by his basketball).  I didn't know someone could run so well in a dress and high heels because he sure cried like a little girl out there complaining constantly. 

 
There you go Old School now thats the type of D3 hoops I like to read.  And it only took you four years before I got it out of you that sometimes stats and numbers dont make a good post, but burns.

And...its good to see that the whole anti-WLC talk died down after a...what 95-94 game with MSOE barely eecking it out.  I will blame the ref on that call, should have been a fouled 3pt and "Skip to my Lou" Jiles would have made it for double OT where we, WLC, would have won against MSOE.  It was a good game to watch, I'll tell ya though, MSOE sure has a lot of guys with names that are just meat to the six man.  "Gay" "Flyod" "Neil" "Sabree" anywho....it was fun to see Flyod aknowledge the 6th Man on multiply occassions...some times my hat went off to him...other times, he was down right funny.  Trying to pull a spin move and tripping, air ball here and there, but he was a good sport and laughed along with us.  Besides, in reality he had 12 pts on the floor and about 28 at the line. 
And I will play the ref card too with Old School...I mean seriously the foul ratio was WLC-36 MSOE- 22.  Maybe Brian Miller invited the refs to his last  college kegger?
Anywho...I hope WLC gets a little more respect after that, sorry Lakeland for not giving it to you guys on a silver platter but our boys played hard.
Bust

[Gregory Sager]

There you go, OS. You've sunk to Busty's content-free posting level, and now he's adopted you as a kindred spirit. Only one question remains for you: A Kurt Cobain kiss-the-shotgun special; carbon monoxide in a closed garage; or the ever-popular quick slash of the wrists? 

[Greek Tragedy]

As you could tell, I was a bit bitter earlier this afternoon.  My mind has been shifted (though still bitter) as my coed soccer team lost again tonight!    I'm bitter about that now...and a little less about the Edgewood/Stevens Point fiasco....just a little less! 

[fishguy]

Any thoughts on the first meeting of the season between Lakeland and MSOE on Tuesday night in Milwaukee? Because of their great recent shooting and their defense, which has been good all year, I'm giving the edge to Lakeland. I don't think Mikos and Floyd will have seena team all season that will defend them like Lakeland will.

Lakeland 60, MSOE 57

[showtimeSmyHero]

First off, I was at the WLC vs. MSOE game this weekend and this WLC team is a disgrace to their years past teams.  They are all poor sports down to their "6th man" and head coach.  I think Noon and his team didn't have the talent so he told them to start throwing elbows and bltch to the refs.  MSOE didn't have as many fouls because they didn't foul as much. The refs could have easily added more fouls either way. MSOE kept their cool even though the ball and calls were not always going their way. I don't know how many times I saw MSOE players driving and getting hammered with out a call.  I talked with several WLC fans after the game and they couldn't believe how the warriors were acting on the court. 

Old school: Not sure how bad the edgewood players were, but WLC got 3 techs I think and MSOE got 1 which was in my mind, a make up tech.  So I am going to say that WLC took whining to a pro bowl level and edgewood is just being edgwood.

My tuff love session...
I think coach miller isn't using his talent the way he should. Granted he did get 40 out of floyd, he wont score 40 against Lakeland. Mikos could have easily went off against WLC but there was never a lane for him to drive in(spacing by MSOE was horrible and there is always a post player camping on the block).  Mikos is best driving and coach miller didn't even open it up for him.  Also, Props to Hagel on a big game and some nice shooting, but why in the hell did msoe always leave him? Its not like he was JJ reddick coming off triple screens fading off the dribble.  They also need to get better rebounding all around offensive and defensive... that just isn't gonna get it done in big games.

Now, on to the Lakeland game.  I will be in attendance and am going to pick MSOE in single digits.  They know how to stop Lakeland and I think you are going to see MSOEs guards shutdown the 3point shooting and force Lakeland to go inside. Lakeland probably has depth on MSOE, but MSOE has the best point and shooting guards in the conference.  MIkos and floyd can d it up and they are not going to lose at home. 

[Greek Tragedy]

What is everyone's predictions on the NAC next year? I know we have quite a bit to go yet with this season, but what is everyone's thoughts on the Northern Athletic Conference next year?

LMC
Alverno College
Concordia University (WI)
Dominican University
Edgewood College
Lakeland College
Maranatha Baptist Bible College
Marian College
Wisconsin Lutheran College

NIIC
Aurora College
Benedictine University
Concordia University (IL)
Rockford College

Out:
Milwaukee School of Engineering
Clarke College
Eureka College

I honestly don't know what to think.  I'm glad the LMC will keep traditional rivals like Edgewood, Lakeland, Concordia, Marian and WLC in.  I know Aurora is usually pretty decent in basketball.  I'm not real familiar with the NIIC teams or, with 12 teams, how they'll split up the "divisions" if that's a possibility.

Now, on to the Lakeland game.  I will be in attendance and am going to pick MSOE in single digits.  They know how to stop Lakeland...

Really? I had forgotten about MSOE's recent success against Lakeland. I guess that MSOE is better this year with Sleepy Floyd, but Lakeland seems to be a lot better as well.

2004-2005
LC 73 @ MSOE 61
LC 77    MSOE 52

2003-2004
LC 81    MSOE 69
LC 85 @ MSOE 72

2002-2003
LC 56 @ MSOE 49
LC 60   MSOE 50

Lakeland probably has depth on MSOE, but MSOE has the best point and shooting guards in the conference. 

Lakeland has the best team though.

MIkos and floyd can d it up and they are not going to lose at home. 

Are you kidding me?  A goldfish would still figure out a way to get out of it's bowl if Floyd was in charge of guarding it!  lol.  Lakeland looks real good and should win by 9 or more. 

[playdefense]

Lakeland probably has depth on MSOE, but MSOE has the best point and shooting guards in the conference.

I just hope James and Saiberlich don't read this and post it in the lockeroom for the rest of the gyus to see. 

[showtimeSmyHero]

Thats a little out of context. I was trying to say they can stop them this year and know how to(playing defense blah blah). Not that they have owned them in the past. But i do remember a loss you didnt mention and i think they beat them in the conference tournament the year before that also.

03/01/03     ~ at Lakeland College    W    91-87

"Lakeland has the best team though." -- Thats why they play the games.  Lakeland couldnt beat WLC at home and MSOE did.

"Are you kidding me?  A goldfish would still figure out a way to get out of it's bowl if Floyd was in charge of guarding it!  lol.  Lakeland looks real good and should win by 9 or more. "  -- What are you talking about? He is a really good defender and im not even a sleepy floyd fan!


 

[showtimeSmyHero]

"I just hope James and Saiberlich don't read this and post it in the lockeroom for the rest of the gyus to see."

They could make wallpaper out of it and thats not going to change a thing.  More power to em if they do beat em. I think you will be suprised. If marquette can beat Uconn anything can happen.

[Big_Uns]

If marquette can beat Uconn anything can happen.

That just goes to show how good the James family is. Lakeland by 5.