MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[Bust Ya'll]

The quote on living in the past didnt remain in your brain very long...

Busty
Congrats on the win over Lakeland ... even if it did come over 2 months ago. But that's ago, living in the past is something we've grown used to from WLC fans.
Congrats also on finishing below .500, getting swept by Dominican and losing to ... Marian.

All of those things you mentioned, umm, happened in the past.  SO if we play your game it doesnt matter what happened then right? 

And no, I wear an XL shirt actually and it fits very comfortably.  Wasnt it you who said show big or go home?...well I think its fair to say an XL constitutes as showing up "big"

In my book, "showing up big" means posting after your team's losses as well as after your team's wins. Anybody can turn on the computer and talk big after a win. Posting consistently after every game, even if it's a loss to your most hated rival, is the epitome of "showing up big".

And Mr. Gregory,  not all of us have the privilage to work for D3 hoops and average 3.1 posts a day.  I have been posting fairly consistent throughout my four year D3hoops career.  This year has been a little hard, but I've found the time to throw in my 2 cents.  So, if you are scolding me...or if you just took what I was saying the wrong way...back off.  I was responding to showtime, not you.  So you can just go back to your other little D3 chatrooms and talk your ideals with your other buddies.  I dont need a lecture on how to "go big" from you.

And that my friends is my point of view,
Bust

[The Way]

The Way I See It,

Busty,
Get your people straight before accusing them of saying something (Fishguy is not the name you mentioned).
Secondly, be careful of what you wish for in wanting the trip up to Lakeland in the playoffs. When was the last time WLC has beaten Lakeland IN Lakeland? And lastly, get by Concordia and MSOE/Marian before even worrying about Lakeland.

And here are my picks for the entire tourney.

Lakeland 83  MBBC 52
MSOE 73    Marian  61
Concordia  65   WLC  62  (sorry bout it)
Edgewood  59   Dominican  52

Lakeland 64  Edgewood  55
Concordia  70   MSOE 66

Lakeland  75   Concordia  62

If Lakeland does make it, they might have a chance to not be the bottom seed for the pairings. If anyone else makes it, it is pretty much a lock to be at the bottom.

[crowdpleaser]

I'm sorry.  I had to post and reply to this conversation.

Why are we even talking about how good Clarke is or could be?  Heck, they aren't even the best team in their own town.  They are 1-4 against IIAC and CCIW teams combined and their sole win out of those is against Cornell by 1 point.  What's Cornell's record?  Oh yeah, 3-20.  Sounds to me like maybe instead of talking about how good Clarke might be the best team in the NIIC we should start talking about how they might be able to "play with anyone" since that apparently matters in the end.  I think the Sister Mary's School for the Blind and Deaf has an opening they could play?  Sager is correct.  Winning games is what matters.  So hopefully Clarke can beat up on Eisenhower Elementary School this weekend in their scrimmage so they can have at least one win against Dubuque schools.

I admire the pride you have Crusader.

[Bust Ya'll]

What are you talking about?  I didnt accuse mitch of anything?

Besides, I know WLC has it locked, a win is bound to happen at Lakeland soon enough.  And the guys are on a winning streak going into the tourney.  And nice pick there with Concordia, doing it not based on fact, but strictly to piss me off....got a little bit of Busty in you?  Keep dreaming..

[keith45]

Clarke lost to UD by 5 and lost to Loras by 9..those teams are 3rd and 6th in the IIAC..Cornell is last..and the IIAC is not a strong conference, there is usually 1-2 team2 who dominates the conference (Wartburg and BV have been within 2 games of each other, in conference, for the last 5 years)..but Nationally, the IIAC isnot regarded high at all..BV won its first game in the NCAA last year over Edgewood (which again, was regarded lightly nationally, although I think they had a few quality wins) and lost to Puget Sound by 3 (currently ranked top 10)..so my point is, Clarke isn't very good and they are in a conference that isnt very good now (although I expect Aurora to be nationally ranked next year. They have a few shooters, and a dominating all american)..Clarke also lost to Marian (9-16, 5-9 in the LMC)

[The Way]

The Way I See It,

I hope i don't have a little Busty in me. I picked Concordia because 'that is the way i see it' happening. I also picked them to upset Edgewood in the semifinals (so concordia over WLC wasn't just out of spite towards you). There is typically a lower seed in the LMC tournament that comes up and surprises everybody. I think Concordia is that team this year. I don't see Marian beating MSOE twice at the Kern Center in one year. I certainly don't see Maranatha staying in the game at Lakeland. And dominican beating edgewood wouldn't really be that much of an upset seeing as how they were up so big on them in the previous two games. So that leaves me with Concordia.

Sorry bout it, but i just don't think WLC has the talent and depth. It has nothing to do with you liking them. It is what i see in the team and what they have done this year.

[diego]

Crusader--people like you are the reason the NIIC doesn't get respect.  Of all years to say the NIIC can hang with the CCIW, you pick this year.  I would give you credit if you pointed out a couple of teams within the past few years.  But Clarke, in my opinion, has been much of a scare in the past.  The first time they might have a chance to win the conference is in a year when it is down the most it has in a while. 

[Gregory Sager]

And Mr. Gregory,  not all of us have the privilage to work for D3 hoops and average 3.1 posts a day.  I have been posting fairly consistent throughout my four year D3hoops career.  This year has been a little hard, but I've found the time to throw in my 2 cents.  So, if you are scolding me...or if you just took what I was saying the wrong way...back off.  I was responding to showtime, not you.  So you can just go back to your other little D3 chatrooms and talk your ideals with your other buddies.  I dont need a lecture on how to "go big" from you.

"Mr. Gregory"?

You've gotta love a trash-talker who can shift gears on the fly and go into indignation mode that quickly. Thanks for the chuckles, Busty. Keep 'em coming! 

BTW, I'd like to see Lakeland come out of the LMC tourney. They'd be an underdog no matter who they play in the big dance, but my guess is that they offer the best shot this conference has at a tourney win -- and a tourney win would be a nice capstone to the history of the soon-to-be-defunct LMC.

[crusader]

of course i'm guna talk trash since we can win the conference, wouldn't you?  as for clarke being not very good in the past...last year was the best team clarke had ever put on the floor, a team that creamed the likes of CCIW's "big 4" Augustana on their own home floor. 

and for others, as i stated before, replacing basically 85% of a teams offense can be difficult.  Clarke played schools like Loras and UD and Cornell and Wheaton all early in the season.  They have really started to gel as the season has rolled on.  I think the 27 point thrashing of benedictine is a credit to their improvement over the season.  Clarke is on fire right now, and if they were to have another shot at loras and ud they would smoke them. 

as for the marion loss, the last of the learning experiences, the team, who held a 14 point lead at halftime, learned you can never underestimate your opponents, and the game is never over until it's over.  that loss was about as bad as north dakota state beating wisconsin at home, or penn state beating illinois at home.  just goes to show you, even the best team in the big ten(wisconsin) can get beat if they decide to not show up.

[Gregory Sager]

of course i'm guna talk trash since we can win the conference, wouldn't you?  as for clarke being not very good in the past...last year was the best team clarke had ever put on the floor, a team that creamed the likes of CCIW's "big 4" Augustana on their own home floor. 

That was two years ago, not last year. Augie and Clarke didn't play last year. And there was no "big four" in the CCIW in 2003-04. Illinois Wesleyan won the conference by two games over Augie and Wheaton, and the fourth-place team (Carthage) was only 7-7 in conference. Augie went 16-9 that year; they were certainly not up to the level of this season's team.

[Pat Coleman]

Gregory doesn't work for D3hoops.

[Gregory Sager]

Gregory doesn't work for D3hoops.

Neither does Mr. Gregory. But I understand that Pat's wife highly recommends Mr. Gregory as her hair stylist. 

[showtimeSmyHero]

If lakeland/msoe whoever win the tournament. I think there is a good chance they will play lawrence. Even though MSOE tanked early this year to LU, the game wasnt as bad as the score showed and i think either team would have a decent shot at an upset.

[from downtown]

If lakeland/msoe whoever win the tournament. I think there is a good chance they will play lawrence. Even though MSOE tanked early this year to LU, the game wasnt as bad as the score showed and i think either team would have a decent shot at an upset.

MSOE has long way to go before they can worry about knocking off the only undefeated in all of college basketball.

MSOE over Marian by 8
Lakeland over MBBC by 30
Edgewood over Dominican by 5
Concondia over WLC by 3

[The Way]

The Way I See It,

I would think Lawrence would get a first round bye in the tournament (unless the format has changed over previous years). I would think Carroll would be a good possibility if they get in or even the winner of the WIAC or CCIW.