MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[Big_Uns]

Most glaring thing:

ATTENDANCE...............	4056	45851
Home games-Avg/Game....	14-290	16-2866

I posted this in the MIAA room and thought you  might also find it usefull:

Don't count on the game being as close as the stats.

[Greek Tragedy]

Most glaring thing:

ATTENDANCE...............	4056	45851
Home games-Avg/Game....	14-290	16-2866

I posted this in the MIAA room and thought you  might also find it usefull:

Don't count on the game being as close as the stats.

Yeah, but those 290 fans are pretty dedicated! lol. 

[Muskie Fan South]

One common thing nobody mentioned games  against Lakeland who played both schools. Who is roy, poy,coy?

[Greek Tragedy]

One common thing nobody mentioned games  against Lakeland who played both schools. Who is roy, poy,coy?

I know a roy, but are poy and coy brothers of roy?  Sorry, couldn't help it.

[trey]

No doubt, how did Lakeland play Hope within 8 points, at Hope?  That is pretty impressive.

[playdefense]

That just goes to show you how good Lakeland was this year.  The Muskies played LaX tough for 3/4 of the game, beat Stevens Point, led Hope 40-37 with 7:00 left, (at HOPE) and ran away with the LMC.  Unfortunatley LC did not take care of non-conference opponents Rockford and Benedictine on the road. Those losses cost them an at-large.  And of couse one bad half of basketball vs. Edgewood probably cost them the automatic LMC bid. 

Cudos to Fish though.  They had one of the best years in LC history.

[AndersDY]

I was thinking that I shouldn't invite the WLC folks to come join in the fervor on the MIAA board as most of it is going on the assumption that Hope will be playing on Saturday, but it appears that this is the most likely expectation for WLC here as well. As for Hope's one encounter with Lakeland this year, I did not attend the game, but eye-witness accounts labeled that game as perhaps the ugliest display of basketball at any level. Hope was coming back from their winter layoff (and perhaps Lakeland was as well) and it would appear that game shouldn't be used to make any assessment about how tough either team is now.

Will a full 290 make it around the lake to make some noise on Friday? While the Hope faithful will gladly snatch up any tickets not claimed over there, it is always more fun if there is someone cheering from the other side. For those who haven't checked it out, the new arena is certainly worth going to see a game in. Not everyone will be in all orange this time, but an idea of the level of crowd you'll be part of this weekend if you make the trip:


Anyway, the folks on the MIAA board are already hyping up this weekend so feel free to check it out:

I love it. It's only Monday night, and already mortars are flying back and forth between the siege lines in Holland and Grand Rapids. A recon team of highly-trained Hope cheerleaders is repulsed, only to see a counterattack of water-walking acolytes from the House of Veld vaporized in a sudden incendiary burst, leaving behind only fragments of maroon-and-gold panties.

I wonder if the UW-LaCrosse and Wisconsin Lutheran people are aware that they're wandering straight into the line of fire? With the skirmishes heating up and all-out conflict just over the horizon, woe to the cheeseheads who heedlessly cross the battlefield in Netherlands-By-The-Lake.

World War Four. It's supersweet!

[playdefense]

LaX will understand what is going to happen.  Although they have not played in front of such a large crowd before, WIAC games at least provide the atmosphere and interest that a contest against Calvin and maybe Hope will have.  LaX and Calvin should be a good game.

[Greek Tragedy]

andersdy,

Very impressive picture!  Wow.

as playdefense said, the WIAC has good crowds, not 3000 type crowds, but we do get our ocassional 2000 type crowds.  Though La Crosse doesn't pack them in, hostile crowds in Stevens Point and especially Menomonie (Stout) will prepare La Crosse a little.  I think Oshkosh came over there a couple of years ago and won, so it's not impossible! 

Here's a possible reason why Lakeland didn't get a Pool C bid.  DePauw won the SCAC AQ and Trinity (TX) got one of the Pool C bids, taking it away from possibly Lakeland (or Washington U, for that matter).  Anyway, you should really blame Rhodes for knocking off Trinity!

Regardless, it's a pretty nice half court shot at the buzzer.

http://www.depauw.edu/av/bballtourney/winner2006.mov

[Bust Ya'll]

Well after a considerable victory hiatus from D3hoops to let the other posters let the inevitable WLC conference victory set in...I return.  Props to the boys for going off the handle in the last half of the conference play when it really mattered.  Props to the 6th Man members to finally listen to my emails and start showing up.  And props to D3 posters for taking the WLC win so well and not lambasting WLC outright and calling it a shame or a sham or whatever.
However, now we get to the real meat of the problem.  Attendance...with a school of about 2,900 students, plus the family and the parents of all those involved, plus all the people with nothing to do in Holland, Mich.  (believe me I know I've been there for football trips) it is no small wonder that the 3,400 sized HopeDome fills up for almost every game or averages 2,866.  WLC on the other hand has a gym that seats like 2000 and a student body of 750.  So seriously, Big Uns and Old School...use your head.  It's like comparing apples to oranges.  Besides, WLC's spring break starts on friday so almost everyone is going home instead of making the pilgrimage to this most holy of games.  Yours truly will be there.  The lone green fish in a sea of orange.
Suffice it to say, I can only predict so many tournament and conference champs in one year, therefore, what I will say will no doubt upset everyone.  Look for a WLC win.  The guys are hot, they love atmosphere (6th Man or other) and of all the colleges those stats of Hope compare just fine with ours.  Now, call me ignorant, (and you are free to do so) but I would much rather play against a MIAA team then the Stouts, Pointers and LaX's of Wisconsin.  For some reason, it just seems more do-able.  So bring on the criticism and attacks from both the LMC and MIAA board, but I gotta stay green guys.  WLC wins it on friday by 5.  The first LMC team to advance...you heard it here first folks.

[bodhi5]

I'll be sure to remember that when I'm walking by the trophy case.

It will be hard not to remember that while walking by the trophy case which holds only one trophy.  Actually, it would be more of a "shelf" than a "case."  Best of luck in whatever conference accepts the Crusaders. 

[Greek Tragedy]

So seriously, Big Uns and Old School...use your head.  It's like comparing apples to oranges.  

Use my head?  Come on Bust Ya'll, give me a little more love than that!  If I said anything bad, it was more tongue in cheek.  I know of the WLC support and the school size and all that!   

I am happy to hear that you're heading over.  I don't think any more than 50 people will be supporting the Greenies though.  Not sure if that's accurate at all.  Being a LMC alumnus, of course I root for the underdog, and what a big underdog they are.  That would be amazing!  I don't see it happening, but then again, this is March madness!  I love your dedication and your bold statements...I'm not gonna argue with the 6th man! lol.

[AndersDY]

I'm not sure UWLax needs to prepare for a hostile crowd, at least on Friday. Hope will be half of the gym plus whatever we can buy back from the unused allotment to Wisconsinites. Calvin fans are generally pretty loud per capita, but they are just going to have trouble getting that many tickets to really make them an intimidating crowd. My guess is that the Hope fans showing up for the early Friday game will be rather laid back but mostly hoping that UWLax keeps Calvin from getting a rematch just a week later. I'm not so sure that UWLax is a better option since we know what we'd be getting with Calvin, but there is always the fear that Calvin could find a way this time around.

If it is UWLax against Hope on Saturday, then they will get to see the hostile version of the crowd, probably 3000 strong unless UWLax actually brings enough people to use their allotment for the Saturday game.

UWOshkosh did take Hope out three years ago, but fortunately there is no more playing in the converted Dow Center (the former home arena had a court shorter than regulation so Hope had to host tourney games in their phys ed building). Given how the first tournament game in that building went (I'm sure if you ask Baldwin Wallace folks, they remember) the Hope faithful are glad that the new home court is NCAA sanctioned.  

[keith45]

I'll be sure to remember that when I'm walking by the trophy case.

It will be hard not to remember that while walking by the trophy case which holds only one trophy.  Actually, it would be more of a "shelf" than a "case."  Best of luck in whatever conference accepts the Crusaders. 

Sorry, I had to reply...and its my fault, based  on crusaders talk, I thought Clarke was a perennial conference contender..I mean, they have had some GREAT PLAYERS..I played against Jeron Warner, he was the truth..soo I said to myself, lets check to see how many timnes Clarke has won the NIIC.....and I realized why Crusader was so hype to beat Aurora, without their starting PG (1 game) and Head Coach (1 game)
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[Flying Dutch Fan]

Bust Ya'll - Love your enthusiasm, and I'd say the same thing in your shoes.  Unfortunately for you, it won't be easy being green on Friday.  Hope's depth and athleticism should prevail by 20 (after leading by 30+).