MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[petemcb]

Boy, come to think of it, it's a good thing his parents named him Harry Carey, or he might have stumbled over his own name.

[Gregory Sager]

They actually named him Harry Carabina. I don't know if he shortened it to Harry Caray for showbiz reasons, or because it was easier for him to pronounce.

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

They actually named him Harry Carabina. I don't know if he shortened it to Harry Caray for showbiz reasons, or because it was easier for him to pronounce.

I think we can all agree it was the latter.  A man doesn't have offspring named Skip and Chip if he's a master at pronounciation.

[matblake]

The thing Harry did have down is the utter scorn for a batter popping up with runners on base.  "Popped it up!  "  That explosiveness on the initial P made it seem as if he was cursing the offender's existence.  Almost as effective was his double play call.  If the ball was hit to short, he would just get to the shortstop's name as the throw from 2nd was reaching the first baseman's glove. 

[matblake]

Here is a funny Harry Caray website.
http://www.powermaxconsulting.com/harrycaray.htm

[keith45]

Today's Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel has an article on the "NAC" or whatever we're going to call it here.  It's from the viewpoint of MSOE, who along with Clarke, are applying (again) for inclusion into the conference.  They list eight current LMC schools and four from the NIIC.  They say that the NAC is appealing with the NCAA to try to get their AQ right away, instead of waiting two years.  They did mention that MSOE did indeed inquire about joining the MWC, which of course we all know by now, was shot down.  Check it out if you get a chance.  I think you could probably find in online as well. 

I'll keep my eye on the always informative Sheboygan Press (you're swimming in sarcasm here) to see if I hear anything regarding the coaching job out in the cornfields.

What are the chances of the appeal being approved, regarding the AQ?

[Greek Tragedy]

I'm not familar with the rules of the NCAA and the appeals process, but the "new" NAC has eight of the nine original members of the LMC...so it seems they are just basically adding four new members to the original conference and changing the name!  I think if they had just kept the name, which is unfair to the NIIC teams joining, they would've kept their AQ.  or, I could just be talking out of my butt! 

[Ralph Turner]

I'm not familar with the rules of the NCAA and the appeals process, but the "new" NAC has eight of the nine original members of the LMC...so it seems they are just basically adding four new members to the original conference and changing the name!  I think if they had just kept the name, which is unfair to the NIIC teams joining, they would've kept their AQ.  or, I could just be talking out of my butt! 

OS, I agree about the Lake Michigan Conference keeping its name.

It is a fundamental issue of identity.  If you are the Lake Michigan Conference, then annex the new members, keep your charter for a few years and then change the name as the Dixie AIC did a few years ago.

What you are telling me by taking a whole new name is that you are a new creature.  It is all about the AQ anyway!

One question...Do you really think that the consultant who told you to chunk both names, to adopt a new very non-specific geographic moniker, and to lose the AQ for all sports for 2 years really earned his/her consultancy fee? 

He did not know that the abbrevaition of "NAC" had already been taken on the most influential website covering D3 athtleics.

Did the consultant tell you that becoming the Northern Athletics Conference would be a tremendous improvement over the "LMC" and the "NIIC", especially since "central Illnois" went to the SLIAC and "Iowa" did not want to come?

[Gregory Sager]

One question...Do you really think that the consultant who told you to chunk both names, to adopt a new very non-specific geographic moniker, and to lose the AQ for all sports for 2 years really earned his/her consultancy fee? 

He did not know that the abbrevaition of "NAC" had already been taken on the most influential website covering D3 athtleics.

Did the consultant tell you that becoming the Northern Athletics Conference would be a tremendous improvement over the "LMC" and the "NIIC", especially since "central Illnois" went to the SLIAC and "Iowa" did not want to come?

I wonder if the consultant also told the member schools that it would be to their advantage to enact a total news embargo. It's almost as though what little information has come out at all has been leaked rather than submitted as press releases. Pat's continued protestations that no information whatsoever has been forthcoming from the new league or its members indicate to me that the league either doesn't want public attention, or has no clue as to how to get it. Sure, D3 is the caboose on the NCAA train, but how hard is it to send updates to the one information source that's actually dedicated exclusively to the caboose?

Speaking simply as a news consumer with an active interest in D3 athletics, to me the entire PR aspect of this new league's formation carries the unmistakable odor of incompetence.

[Greek Tragedy]

I'm sure this consultant has no idea this site exists! 

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

I'm sure this consultant has no idea this site exists! 

It appears to me that the consultant had little if any idea that the NCAA exists.  This was just a bonehead move.

Sure, D3 is the caboose on the NCAA train,

I have to believe that D1-AAA football is the caboose.  Heck I didn't even know it existed until this year.

[Pat Coleman]

Inspired by a request on the NIIC baseball board, here's a compilation of the NAthCon men's basketball standings for 2005-06, taking each team's schedule and tallying the wins and losses against future conference foes:

Lakeland 21-6, 13-1 LMC, 13-4 NAthCon
Aurora 16-11, 9-3 NIIC, 6-2 NAthCon
Wisconsin Lutheran 14-15, 8-6 LMC, 11-6 NAthCon
Edgewood 15-12, 8-6 LMC, 10-6 NAthCon
Concordia (Wis.) 8-16, 6-8 LMC, 8-7 NAthCon
Dominican 13-13, 6-8 LMC, 8-8 NAthCon
Rockford 15-12, 6-6 NIIC, 5-5 NAthCon
Marian 10-17, 5-8 LMC, 6-9 NAthCon
Concordia (Ill.) 11-16, 6-6 NIIC, 4-7 NAthCon
Benedictine 10-15, 3-8 NIIC, 3-7 NAthCon
Maranatha Baptist 1-24, 0-14 LMC, 0-13 NAthCon

This includes the teams' various conference tournaments.

[Pat Coleman]

Edgewood reports Larson to be named commissioner of the league:
http://www.d3hoops.com/

[Ryan Scott (Hoops Fan)]

Can it be?  Are we going to get some news from the NAsthCon?

[Greek Tragedy]

It's reported in today's Milwaukee Journal/Sentinel that MSOE has been accepted into the new conference, starting with the 2007-2008 academic year...thus, MSOE will play as an independent next year.  Clarke's application has been tabled for December.

New Conference Accepts MSOE