MBB: Northern Athletics Collegiate Conference

[from downtown]

http://www.msoe.edu/athletics/teams/roster.shtml?teamId=123800&crumbTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Roster&pageTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Roster

MSOE's roster for '08-'09 ... freshmen are not listed.

Two graduated, 12 back

Im 99.5% positive that roster isnt correct and they just added a year to everyone who was on last years roster. Also, MSOE lost three seniors (Molner, Murphy, and Trainor). However, the schedule is up: http://www.msoe.edu/athletics/teams/schedule_results.shtml?teamId=123800&crumbTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Schedule+and+Results&pageTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Schedule+and+Results
I'm moderately disappointed in the schedule. It includes no WIAC or CCIW teams, and the return trip from Grinell (I wanted to see a team score 120) is happening after I graduated and ironically moved to Iowa.

[from downtown]

IMHO-Biggest question for MSOE is-how does that squad fill Scott Murphy's shoes?--ask another player to step up big, or do it by committee-so to speak? Fortunately, most of the returning reserves did see a lot of playing time last season.

I dont think the team will be hurt that much in scoring. Front court depth will be alittle thin; however, Jeremy Off has had some big games, and can get to the rim with his back to the basket almost at will. He should have a big year and become the #1 option down low.  Meier seemed to get more comfortable on the offensive end as the season progressed, and Voight led the team in scoring 7 times last year despite missing the last 5 games. With most of the better bigs moving on (Van Ess, Averkamp, Haiduc, Leonard), the loss on defense shouldnt be too drastic. I'd be surprised if they werent in the top 4 in conference.

Anyway anybody know anything about how summer leagues have gone or about this:

"Basketball players travel to Italy

Brian Miller, MSOE's men's basketball team coach and assistant athletic director, coached a team of collegiate basketball players during a trip to Italy this summer as part of the American International Sports Tours. Six of the players were from the Northern Athletics Conference, including MSOE sophomore Austin Meier and recent grad Neil Trainor '08. They faced four club teams from Italy and the San Marino national team, and won two of the five games they played.  "The trip was a great time," Trainor explained. "Being able to learn the history and see places that I have studied or seen on TV was great and to have the added bonus of playing basketball on top of that was unbelievable." 
"

[wcbsas]

http://www.msoe.edu/athletics/teams/roster.shtml?teamId=123800&crumbTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Roster&pageTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Roster

MSOE's roster for '08-'09 ... freshmen are not listed.

Two graduated, 12 back

Im 99.5% positive that roster isnt correct and they just added a year to everyone who was on last years roster. Also, MSOE lost three seniors (Molner, Murphy, and Trainor). However, the schedule is up: http://www.msoe.edu/athletics/teams/schedule_results.shtml?teamId=123800&crumbTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Schedule+and+Results&pageTitle=Men's%20Basketball+Schedule+and+Results
I'm moderately disappointed in the schedule. It includes no WIAC or CCIW teams, and the return trip from Grinell (I wanted to see a team score 120) is happening after I graduated and ironically moved to Iowa.

What are some of the other changes then?

[from downtown]

What are some of the other changes then?

Adrian Winston left the team Late November-mid December last year and I dont think he is returned. There is another (bench) player listed on there who unless something has changed since spring was not playing basketball next year. (I think there is also a transfer not listed (to MSOE not from)).

[WLCALUM83]

Here's an update on '88 WLC Alum Jim Datka (played way back in "the day")

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=783204

("Messmer hoops coach.)

(His freshman year WLC was still playing its' home games five blocks away from campus-in Wisconsin Lutheran high schools' facility. I remember one game in '85--during Winter Festival weekend, there was a 10-piece all-student pep band that played for that game, and--even though the Warriors lost, their fan spirit was definitely in evidence that day.)

He and team-mate JJ Jennings got most of the print during that time. It was in the early development stages of WLC hoops history and as I recall, MSOE was one of the Warriors' opponents back then, (that may have been even before both schools became NCAA D3.)

[hickory_cornhusker]

I'm pretty sure it was before WLC and MSOE moved to D3. If I remember correctly they and the majority of their conference left the NAIA in the mid 90s.

[WLCALUM83]

Here's news on a Wisconsin prep player headed Benedictine's direction:

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=785743

("Other college choices" toward the bottom of the article).

[Razor Back]

Any idea how good Benedictine will be this year?

[AndOne]

Any idea how good Benedictine will be this year?

Judging from their performance in the Deerfield (Joy Of The Game) Summer league, where they finished in a tie for last place, not too good. However, I don't know how many of their upper level players were missing from that team.

I think the unquestioned star of the team will be senior guard Jared Bailey. Bailey, who is lightening quick, hit for about 18 ppg last season. In addition to his scoring ability, he appears to be a very well rounded player as he dished out 113 assists last year,

A real key to the Eagles success this year will be whether or not 6'6" 2 guard Dan Klecan can return to the lineup. 2 years ago he transitioned into the college game to the tune of being named the conference co-freshman of the year. Last season he was injured (foot, I believe) in about the 9th or 10th game and was done for the year. He had already led the Eagles scoring brigade 3-4 times at the time of his injury. I believe most of his time then fell to guard Cameron Snelling who started 13 games and averaged 8.3 ppg . From what I observed, he is more power than finesse and often plays out of control. Another player to keep an eye out for in the guard rotation might be 6'5" Rob Bridgeman who appeared in 24 games last year with 5 starts. However, he only averaged 4.5 ppg, and seemed to regress some from the 06-07 season. He could be challenged for PT by soph Brian Genslinger  who came on strong over the last half of the season, averaging 8.8 ppg in 17 contests. 

Up front, I was impressed with Andrew Brown a 6'5" forward who has a very nice inside game featuring strong moves to the basket with the ability to finish, resulting in converting on 55% of his field goal attempts. He has the physique of a football player and takes no prisoners when going after a rebound. Another forward who may be ready to contribute is 6'5" soph Marcus Peters out of Rochelle, IL. He didn't play a lot last season, but I understand he showed well in some late season appearances. His strength is his outside shooting, with the ability to hit a nice percentage out to the 3 point line. He needs to bulk up and improve his inside positioning and power moves. He does have a quick 1st step.

Please note this analysis is based on seeing Benedictine play 3-4 times last year, and a few observations during the 08 summer season. Whether all the players mentioned above will return this year, and what contributions the Eagles may get from new players is anyone's guess.     

[from downtown]

MSOE will scrimage UWM this year; http://uwmpanthers.cstv.com/sports/m-baskbl/sched/wiml-m-baskbl-sched.html .

[Pat Coleman]

Looks like an exhibition game, not a scrimmage.

[luv d3hoops]

just wanted to say    what is au going to do whith out larry welton doug lambert

[Gregory Sager]

Coach Lancaster has taken the Spartans to the D3 tournament six times in the last eleven years. I wouldn't bury Aurora just yet.

[luv d3hoops]

mabe so but thay lost mike the big man down low as well. plus the back bone of lambert and welton. 3 of 5 starters will be hard to come back from what is welton doing eny one know??

[keith45]

Coach Lancaster has taken the Spartans to the D3 tournament six times in the last eleven years. I wouldn't bury Aurora just yet.

Agree..plus remember that AU really returns 3-4 starters (Dusty missed all last season but was a starter before and averaged 11 pts per game his freshman and soph years), Trudo, Skyler and Lance (part time starter)..plus they also have Shane Roland returning, who averaged 8 pts off the bench, shooting 42% from 3
I think they'll struggle in non conference, wont be nationally ranked, but will win the conference and get the AQ..and from then, its anyones guess.

Welton had 28 in his most recent pro game (2 of 8 from 3 though, ugh)...looks like he is playing on the perimeter, he is listed as a SG
http://www.eurobasket.com/Hungary/basketball.asp?NewsID=144555