New England Soccer Discussion

[Off Pitch]

Here is a cut and paste from http://www.d3soccer.com/rankings/2016/regional-rankings-Nov-2

NEW ENGLAND REGION (data sheet)
Rank      School      Division III   Overall    SOS     RvR    Prev.
1.   Amherst              14-1-1        14-1-1        0.570     3-1-1     1
2.   Mass-Boston       15-1-2        15-1-2        0.534      1-0-1      3
3.   Babson              11-4-3        11-4-3        0.599      3-3-1      7
4.   Brandeis              10-4-3        10-4-3        0.604      6-3-2      8
5.   Tufts                    9-5-2           9-5-2       0.605       5-0-0      2
6.   Middlebury            10-3-3       10-3-3       0.578       2-2-1      5
7.   Rhode Island        14-3-1        14-3-1        0.570      1-3-0      6
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8.   Clark                    14-4-0        14-4-0        0.545      3-2-0      4
9.   Williams                 9-4-3            9-4-3         0.604      2-4-0      9
10.   Bowdoin                 9-3-4          9-3-4        0.571      2-2-3      --
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11.   Endicott               12-5-2        12-5-2        0.554      1-2-2       --
12.   Wheaton                10-6-2          10-6-2      0.576      3-2-1      --

I have arbitrarily added a "no chance of a Pool C bid" double line and a "Pool C chances are remote" single line to the rankings.

[Flying Weasel]

The data sheets are compiled Monday after the deadline for teams posting their scores to the NCAA database.  The new rankings obviously aren't out yet, so they can't compute a RvR based on rankings that do not exist yet.  So, it is based on the rankings at the time.


Base on last week's rankings, Brandeis' RvR is 6-3-2 as follows:

WINS: John Carrol (#8 Great Lakes), Haverford (#4 Mid-Atlantic), Wash. U. (#3 Central), Clark (#4 New Eng.), Emory (#6 So. Atl.), Rochester (#3 East)

LOSSES: Babson (#7 New Eng.), Tufts (#2 New Eng.), Chicago (#1 Central)

TIES: WPI (#12  New Eng.), Carnegie Mellon (#7 Great Lakes)


However the WPI tie drops off for the final rankings replaced by the loss to Wheaton, and the win vs. John Carroll goes away. So their RvR for at-large berth discussions will become 5-4-1 as follows:

WINS: Haverford (#4 Mid-Atlantic), Wash. U. (#3 Central), Clark (#8 New Eng.), Emory (#7 So. Atl.), Rochester (#3 East)

LOSSES: Babson (#3 New Eng.), Wheaton (#12 New Eng.), Tufts (#5 New Eng.), Chicago (#1 Central)

TIES: Carnegie Mellon (#2 Great Lakes)

[blooter442]

The data sheets are compiled Monday after the deadline for teams posting their scores to the NCAA database.  The new rankings obviously aren't out yet, so they can't compute a RvR based on rankings that do not exist yet.  So, it is based on the rankings at the time.


Base on last week's rankings, Brandeis' RvR is 6-3-2 as follows:

WINS: John Carrol (#8 Great Lakes), Haverford (#4 Mid-Atlantic), Wash. U. (#3 Central), Clark (#4 New Eng.), Emory (#6 So. Atl.), Rochester (#3 East)

LOSSES: Babson (#7 New Eng.), Tufts (#2 New Eng.), Chicago (#1 Central)

TIES: WPI (#12  New Eng.), Carnegie Mellon (#7 Great Lakes)


However the WPI tie drops off for the final rankings replaced by the loss to Wheaton, and the win vs. John Carroll goes away. So their RvR for at-large berth discussions will become 5-4-1 as follows:

WINS: Haverford (#4 Mid-Atlantic), Wash. U. (#3 Central), Clark (#8 New Eng.), Emory (#7 So. Atl.), Rochester (#3 East)

LOSSES: Babson (#3 New Eng.), Wheaton (#12 New Eng.), Tufts (#5 New Eng.), Chicago (#1 Central)

TIES: Carnegie Mellon (#2 Great Lakes)

Thanks for the clarification, FW. While 4 ranked defeats seems like a lot, 5 ranked wins is pretty solid, so - given that the Judges were 5-4-3 in mid-October - things seem to look better for them at this point, if nothing else.

[PaulNewman]

Another tough ending for Endicott, losing in PKs.

[PaulNewman]

Wow.  What a play by Wentworth late in 2OT.  Wentworth knocks off Gordon.

[Mr.Right]

Didn't see the game but I guess UMASS Boston means business winning 7-2 over ECONN....They will play RIC in the LEC Final who being ranked #7 in New England is most definitely a BUBBLE team. A draw will see them into the NCAA's, a loss and they will be sweating. Should be a great final

[Mr.Right]

After watching the highlights of the UMASS Boston v ECONN match I was impressed. The 3rd goal by Wiliiamson was an absolute beauty of a one-timer and UMASS Boston dominated the whole game. ECONN did not show up and frankly their GK was a complete DISASTER.  Morales who scored the 2nd goal from 30 yards out was a shot that a GK must save and it looked like ECONN caved and kind of gave up as they realized they were just no match tonight for UMASS Boston. I wonder if UMASS Boston applied to host or if they are allowed to considering they are not playing on "their" home field. If they can stay on Boston College's carpet they are going to be a tough out for anyone including any Nescac side. Williamson is a man among boys and it showed in this game. He looks a lot more fit than he did a month ago and still favors that cannon of a left foot but is also ok with his right foot. It will be interesting to see what kind of pod they get and when they play better offensive teams how their GK and defense holds up. Their defense is skilled but not overly physical.

[Off Pitch]

                                                         Starters lost
1.   Amherst              14-1-1               8            Lose 4 of their top 6 scorers
2.     Mass-Boston        16-1-2             2            Return their top 3 scorers
3.   Babson              11-4-3                 3           Lose their leading scorer but return the rest of their top 6.
4.   Brandeis              10-4-3               5           Lose 4 of their top 6 scorers.
5.   Tufts                    9-5-2                  6           Lose their top scorer (42% of goals)
6.   Middlebury            10-3-3             7          Lose 3 of their 5 top scorers
7.   Rhode Island        14-3-1               5           Lose only 1 of their top 6 scorers but lose 5 starters (mainly backs and GK)
8.   Clark                    14-4-0               3           Return 4 their top 6 scorers.
9.   Williams                 9-4-3               7           Lose 3 of their top 5 scorers
10.   Bowdoin                 9-3-4             3           Return 5 of their top 6 scorers
11.   Endicott               12-5-2              2            Return their top 13 scorers
12.   Wheaton                10-6-2             2          Return 5 of their 6 top scorers

Since its never to early to look ahead to next year. 

It looks like UMass-Boston, Babson, Rhode Island, Clark, Endicott and Wheaton all return a lot of strength.  Bowdoin looks good to compete with Amherst for NESCAC supremacy.

[PaulNewman]

The Wheaton-Babson game due to start in about an hour should be a good one.  If you look at Wheaton's overall resume they may be under-ranked regionally.  Good SOS and RvR of 3-1 (as of today with chance to go to 4-1).  Wins over RUN, Brandeis and Clark.  6 losses is high but overall blemishes of 7 is very much in line with the throng of Pool C contenders in New England and elsewhere.

[Mr.Right]

Just tuned in....1-1 Babson v Wheaton...Not sure what I missed but a 10:30am start is a bit much. No reason not to start this game at 11am.

[Mr.Right]

Looks like Babson scored 3 minutes in when everyone was still asleep. One of Wheaton's best players #15 Sesay gets a goal back to make it 1-1. Bubble teams better hope Babson wins the AQ because they will be getting a Pool C either way.

[Mr.Right]

Looks like it will go into halftime 1-1 Babson v Wheaton. I have seen Babson with a dangerous chance off a ste piece that Wheaton's GK coughed up right in front of him and were lucky to clear it out. Wheaton's GK looks suspect 1st half. Otherwise, seems like a pretty even game so far from what I have seen

[Mr.Right]

Babson and Wheaton heading to OT at 1-1. wheaton had the better of the play 2nd Half and have had numerous set pieces to try to snag a goal but they do not look threatening on set pieces.

[Mr.Right]

Wheaton(MA) defeats Babson in 2 OT on a nice rebound finish. Honestly, they deserved to win the game and I thought played much better than Babson on the day. Wheaton just has more dangerous weapons offensively. Babosn will still get a Pool C but just BURST someone's bubble. Wheaton all of a sudden has 4 ranked wins and will play the winner of Clark / Springfield tomorrow.

[Mr.Right]

WOW.....Brandeis losing to NYU 1-0 with about 10 minutes left....They are ranked #4 in New England with an over .600 SOS and 5-6 ranked wins should be good enough if the score holds but this is one result I would not have predicted. Brandeis has been playing so well and controlled their own destiny and NYU has nothing to play for. Now if they lose they might be on the bubble depending upon how far they drop in the rankings