New England Soccer Discussion

[Off Pitch]

Projected regional rankings for 10/25 (only includes games through 10/22):

1.    Tufts
2.    Amherst
3.    Brandeis
4.    Conn
5.    Springfield
6.    Bowdoin
7.    Middlebury
8.    Williams
9.    Johnson&Wales
10.  WPI
11.  Gordon
12.  Mass-Boston

Best of the rest:
St. Josephs  (SOS too weak to be ranked)
Endicott
Coast Guard
Hamilton

[PaulNewman]

What could help the NESCAC get an extra bid or two this year is the relative lack of non-NESCAC superb seasons with also decent enough SoS's. There is Springfield and little else. St Joes and J&W are the feel good stories but presumably they are AQ or best. No stellar seasons from a Wheaton, MIT, Gordon, RWU, RIC, ECSU, etc. There also do not seem to be a large number of really strong Pool C candidates around the country. Some conferences that typically might get 2-3 bids are looking like 1 or 1-2 at best, and some like the OAC have had Pool C challengers falter of late.

[Mr.Right]

Yes....but other conferences like the UAA have IMO 4 Pool C's almost locked up depending on results this weekend.

[Mr.Right]

Without the Keene St and Colby matches this year it is AQ or bust for St.Joe's

Right on - it's take care of business or go home for St. Joe's.  If they can't beat J&W (assuming they make the final), then they don't deserve to be in the NCAAs.

Old Ned--Out of curiosity why was the Keene St v St.Joe's match cancelled? I mean they cancelled the game yesterday which was odd.

[NEFutbol90]

From what I've heard Keene has injuries there looking to shore up for the weekend and I imagine the weather played a factor even though the weather in Keene looked as if it held off. It was certainly from the Keene side as St.Joes had all the reasons in the world to play this game.

[Flying Weasel]

NEW ENGLAND REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - October 25, 2017

Rank	School	. Div. III . Record	. Div. III . SOS	. R-v-R .	. Non-Conf. . SOS	. Overall . Record	. Prev. . Rank
1.	Tufts	12-1-1	0.609	4-1-1	0.590	12-1-1	1
2.	Amherst	10-2-2	0.642	4-2-1	0.604	10-2-2	2
3.	Brandeis	11-3-0	0.620	3-3-0	0.600	11-3-0	4
4.	Springfield	13-0-1	0.559	3-0-0	0.565	13-0-1	6
5.	Bowdoin	10-3-1	0.580	3-1-1	0.528	10-3-1	9
6.	Connecticut College	9-1-4	0.603	1-1-4	0.544	9-1-4	3
7.	Williams	8-2-4	0.608	1-2-2	0.569	8-2-4	5
8.	Middlebury	9-5-0	0.611	1-4-0	0.601	9-5-0	7
9.	Mass-Boston	9-4-3	0.561	0-1-1	0.617	9-4-3	8
10.	Johnson and Wales	14-1-1	0.517	--	0.593	14-1-1	10
11.	Gordon	10-5-1	0.528	1-2-0	0.585	10-5-1	11
12.	WPI	11-4-1	0.521	0-1-1	0.490	11-4-1	--

[Mr.Right]

Bowdoin's RvR gives them almost a Pool C lock with a win on Saturday...Not sure where Williams is getting a ranked win at 1-2-2 I do not see a ranked win on their schedule...That loss to Midd will sting more as Midd will jump them next week

[Flying Weasel]

Williams beat Colby.  Colby was ranked last week.

[Mr.Right]

Ok now I remember that RvR is against teams ranked last week BUT the only thing that will matter is the RvrR against teams ranked in the 3rd and Final weeks..correct?

[Flying Weasel]

Yes, come selection time, the RvR data used by the selection committee to assess at-large candidates will be results versus teams ranked in either the 3rd or 4th/Final rankings.

[blooter442]

Emerson gets what I believe is its first NEWMAC win ever over MIT. Babson needed that to happen to have a chance, but the Beavers couldn't do their part and lost to Coast Guard 1-0, marking the first ever time they've missed the NEWMAC tournament. I was pretty confident that they would be a solid side, even if unspectacular, after their opening weekend of results, but they had a rough couple of games against Tufts and Brandeis the next week and never really recovered.

[Mr.Right]

Yea that is crazy..You never know in soccer..Babson probably assumed MIT would win...Springfield loses and WPI cannot take an advantage as they lose to Clark..Crazy day

[Off Pitch]

Projected regional rankings for 11/1 (only includes games through 10/29):

1.    Tufts
2.    Brandeis
3.    Amherst
4.    Middlebury
5.    Springfield
6.    Bowdoin
7.    Conn
8.    Williams
9.    Hamilton
10.   Johnson&Wales
11.  Mass-Boston
12.  Gordon

Best of the rest:
St. Josephs  (SOS too weak to be ranked)
Coast Guard
Endicott
WPI
Clark
WConn St

[OldNed]

NEW ENGLAND REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - October 25, 2017

Rank	School	. Div. III . Record	. Div. III . SOS	. R-v-R .	. Non-Conf. . SOS	. Overall . Record	. Prev. . Rank
1.	Tufts	12-1-1	0.609	4-1-1	0.590	12-1-1	1
2.	Amherst	10-2-2	0.642	4-2-1	0.604	10-2-2	2
3.	Brandeis	11-3-0	0.620	3-3-0	0.600	11-3-0	4
4.	Springfield	13-0-1	0.559	3-0-0	0.565	13-0-1	6
5.	Bowdoin	10-3-1	0.580	3-1-1	0.528	10-3-1	9
6.	Connecticut College	9-1-4	0.603	1-1-4	0.544	9-1-4	3
7.	Williams	8-2-4	0.608	1-2-2	0.569	8-2-4	5
8.	Middlebury	9-5-0	0.611	1-4-0	0.601	9-5-0	7
9.	Mass-Boston	9-4-3	0.561	0-1-1	0.617	9-4-3	8
10.	Johnson and Wales	14-1-1	0.517	--	0.593	14-1-1	10
11.	Gordon	10-5-1	0.528	1-2-0	0.585	10-5-1	11
12.	WPI	11-4-1	0.521	0-1-1	0.490	11-4-1	--

Question for all you smart soccer guys out there - why is SOS more important than RvR?  Seems to me that a team like St. Joe's with a 2-0 RvR record should get a bump from that which might even out a poor SOS. No team other than the top 5 regionally ranked teams in New England have more than 2 wins RvR - except St. Joe's. Ok, enough of my grumbling...

[Wisco21]

NEW ENGLAND REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - October 25, 2017

Rank	School	. Div. III . Record	. Div. III . SOS	. R-v-R .	. Non-Conf. . SOS	. Overall . Record	. Prev. . Rank
1.	Tufts	12-1-1	0.609	4-1-1	0.590	12-1-1	1
2.	Amherst	10-2-2	0.642	4-2-1	0.604	10-2-2	2
3.	Brandeis	11-3-0	0.620	3-3-0	0.600	11-3-0	4
4.	Springfield	13-0-1	0.559	3-0-0	0.565	13-0-1	6
5.	Bowdoin	10-3-1	0.580	3-1-1	0.528	10-3-1	9
6.	Connecticut College	9-1-4	0.603	1-1-4	0.544	9-1-4	3
7.	Williams	8-2-4	0.608	1-2-2	0.569	8-2-4	5
8.	Middlebury	9-5-0	0.611	1-4-0	0.601	9-5-0	7
9.	Mass-Boston	9-4-3	0.561	0-1-1	0.617	9-4-3	8
10.	Johnson and Wales	14-1-1	0.517	--	0.593	14-1-1	10
11.	Gordon	10-5-1	0.528	1-2-0	0.585	10-5-1	11
12.	WPI	11-4-1	0.521	0-1-1	0.490	11-4-1	--

Question for all you smart soccer guys out there - why is SOS more important than RvR?  Seems to me that a team like St. Joe's with a 2-0 RvR record should get a bump from that which might even out a poor SOS. No team other than the top 5 regionally ranked teams in New England have more than 2 wins RvR - except St. Joe's. Ok, enough of my grumbling...

Old Ned, IIRC a team's SOS must be above .500 to be considered in the regional rankings. A couple years ago in the North Region, Luther College found themselves in a similar position- they were regionally ranked in the first and/or second week, played a couple cupcakes, and found that they were bounced from the third rankings. Their SOS had fallen below the .500 threshold.

Someone please correct me if this information is false.