New England Soccer Discussion

[NEsoccerfan20]

Endicott over Springfield 2-1 in 2OT.

[Off Pitch]

Coach Anderson with win #400 as Babson beats Bridgewater St  3-1

[OldNed]

What game has better chance for today's Upset Special?

Conn Coll at Wesleyan OR Salem State at St Joseph's (ME)..........

Salem State at St. Joe's, I think.  Salem State is 11-2-2, whereas Wesleyan is an abysmal 3-10.  The forecast is for rain tonight in Maine, so that could affect St. Joe's.  In the other game they played in the rain, St. Joe's beat Emmanuel 1-0, but it wasn't easy.

OK, last night was a little too close for comfort for St. Joe's, winning 1-0 on a PK in the last 2 minutes.  First off, let me say that I was impressed with the way Salem State played.  They did pack it in and make it difficult for St. Joe's to score, but they played intelligently and were impressive defensively.  I didn't see a whole lot from Salem State offensively, but I understand their top goal scorer Meireles is an NC State commit who didn't have the grades to get in right away, so they do have some firepower.  The rain held off in Standish until the start of the second half, and that made the second half miserable for the players and spectators, as it was 45 degrees, pouring, and windy, too.

I've done some reffing in the past, so I'm usually sympathetic to the refs, but the crew last night had a bad night all around.  Missed calls on what should be easy-to-make out of bounds plays, non calls for a number of clear fouls, and they were bad all across the board, so both teams were affected by the refereeing. On the late PK call, I think the call was correct as one of the St. Joe's players was hauled down in the box, but that same kind of play was made throughout the game by Salem State on most corner kicks or free kicks into the box, so the Salem State players (I couldn't tell if the coaches were doing the same) went ballistic after the PK call was made.  I've never seen anything quite like it at the D3 level, with multiple f-bombs flying, and bunches of Salem State players belligerently surrounding the center ref, who to his credit ignored all of the language and bad behavior.  I have to admit I felt bad for the Salem State players simply because that type of call wasn't being made all night long until that point, and they were feeling like they could take the game to OT where anything could happen.

[stillwatching]

What game has better chance for today's Upset Special?

Conn Coll at Wesleyan OR Salem State at St Joseph's (ME)..........

Salem State at St. Joe's, I think.  Salem State is 11-2-2, whereas Wesleyan is an abysmal 3-10.  The forecast is for rain tonight in Maine, so that could affect St. Joe's.  In the other game they played in the rain, St. Joe's beat Emmanuel 1-0, but it wasn't easy.

OK, last night was a little too close for comfort for St. Joe's, winning 1-0 on a PK in the last 2 minutes.  First off, let me say that I was impressed with the way Salem State played.  They did pack it in and make it difficult for St. Joe's to score, but they played intelligently and were impressive defensively.  I didn't see a whole lot from Salem State offensively, but I understand their top goal scorer Meireles is an NC State commit who didn't have the grades to get in right away, so they do have some firepower.  The rain held off in Standish until the start of the second half, and that made the second half miserable for the players and spectators, as it was 45 degrees, pouring, and windy, too.

I've done some reffing in the past, so I'm usually sympathetic to the refs, but the crew last night had a bad night all around.  Missed calls on what should be easy-to-make out of bounds plays, non calls for a number of clear fouls, and they were bad all across the board, so both teams were affected by the refereeing. On the late PK call, I think the call was correct as one of the St. Joe's players was hauled down in the box, but that same kind of play was made throughout the game by Salem State on most corner kicks or free kicks into the box, so the Salem State players (I couldn't tell if the coaches were doing the same) went ballistic after the PK call was made.  I've never seen anything quite like it at the D3 level, with multiple f-bombs flying, and bunches of Salem State players belligerently surrounding the center ref, who to his credit ignored all of the language and bad behavior.  I have to admit I felt bad for the Salem State players simply because that type of call wasn't being made all night long until that point, and they were feeling like they could take the game to OT where anything could happen.

My son plays at another MASCAC school, and their game with Salem State was also VERY contentious.  Lots of extra curricular activities (to be fair on both sides), Salem players waiting in the parking lot, Salem parents egging them on, and verbally abusing our players who were just trying to get to their cars.  VERY strange all the way around.  The refs at our game had a hard time keeping things under control, and the game had very little flow.  I have to admit, I was definitely pulling for St. Joe's  :-)  last night. 

[PaulNewman]

I watched most of the 2nd half of St. Joe's....loved the NCAA D3 scoreboard banner at the top...would have liked a camera angle a bit higher with better zoom.

St. Joe's was impressive and fully deserved to win as the game mostly looked like a controlled scrimmage for them.  Salem St was valiant and could have stolen the game on the one or two chance they had, and then they did lose their cool in a way reminiscent of UMass-Boston Haverford, although thankfully things did not appear to escalate to a really, really place.  All that said, and hard to tell because the video of the play was so far away, I thought that was a harsh PK call with under 2 minutes left off a set piece or corner or whatever it was.  It was not a typical kind of play for a PK call, and the players (rightly or wrongly) were indeed incensed.

I do hope the fate of St Joe's in the NCAA tourney is not determined by PKs.

[blooter442]

Salem St was valiant and could have stolen the game on the one or two chance they had, and then they did lose their cool in a way reminiscent of UMass-Boston Haverford, although thankfully things did not appear to escalate to a really, really place.

As long as they didn't headbutt the referee or dropkick a ball at a player's head...

Half-joking...probably not the best scene for the U12 girls from Windham who were at the game to see.

[PaulNewman]

What game has better chance for today's Upset Special?

Conn Coll at Wesleyan OR Salem State at St Joseph's (ME)..........

Salem State at St. Joe's, I think.  Salem State is 11-2-2, whereas Wesleyan is an abysmal 3-10.  The forecast is for rain tonight in Maine, so that could affect St. Joe's.  In the other game they played in the rain, St. Joe's beat Emmanuel 1-0, but it wasn't easy.

OK, last night was a little too close for comfort for St. Joe's, winning 1-0 on a PK in the last 2 minutes.  First off, let me say that I was impressed with the way Salem State played.  They did pack it in and make it difficult for St. Joe's to score, but they played intelligently and were impressive defensively.  I didn't see a whole lot from Salem State offensively, but I understand their top goal scorer Meireles is an NC State commit who didn't have the grades to get in right away, so they do have some firepower.  The rain held off in Standish until the start of the second half, and that made the second half miserable for the players and spectators, as it was 45 degrees, pouring, and windy, too.

I've done some reffing in the past, so I'm usually sympathetic to the refs, but the crew last night had a bad night all around.  Missed calls on what should be easy-to-make out of bounds plays, non calls for a number of clear fouls, and they were bad all across the board, so both teams were affected by the refereeing. On the late PK call, I think the call was correct as one of the St. Joe's players was hauled down in the box, but that same kind of play was made throughout the game by Salem State on most corner kicks or free kicks into the box, so the Salem State players (I couldn't tell if the coaches were doing the same) went ballistic after the PK call was made.  I've never seen anything quite like it at the D3 level, with multiple f-bombs flying, and bunches of Salem State players belligerently surrounding the center ref, who to his credit ignored all of the language and bad behavior.  I have to admit I felt bad for the Salem State players simply because that type of call wasn't being made all night long until that point, and they were feeling like they could take the game to OT where anything could happen.

My son plays at another MASCAC school, and their game with Salem State was also VERY contentious.  Lots of extra curricular activities (to be fair on both sides), Salem players waiting in the parking lot, Salem parents egging them on, and verbally abusing our players who were just trying to get to their cars.  VERY strange all the way around.  The refs at our game had a hard time keeping things under control, and the game had very little flow.  I have to admit, I was definitely pulling for St. Joe's  :-)  last night.

That is some bad, bad stuff.  I hope those details were reported to the league.  Waiting in the parking lot?  That's how stuff happens that can ruin lives forever.

[OldNed]

I watched most of the 2nd half of St. Joe's....loved the NCAA D3 scoreboard banner at the top...would have liked a camera angle a bit higher with better zoom.

St. Joe's was impressive and fully deserved to win as the game mostly looked like a controlled scrimmage for them.  Salem St was valiant and could have stolen the game on the one or two chance they had, and then they did lose their cool in a way reminiscent of UMass-Boston Haverford, although thankfully things did not appear to escalate to a really, really place.  All that said, and hard to tell because the video of the play was so far away, I thought that was a harsh PK call with under 2 minutes left off a set piece or corner or whatever it was.  It was not a typical kind of play for a PK call, and the players (rightly or wrongly) were indeed incensed.

I do hope the fate of St Joe's in the NCAA tourney is not determined by PKs.

I'm guessing the feed cut off once the game ended, but things were still a little contentious once time expired.  There was a lot of negative emotion from some of the Salem State players right after the game, but most of them calmed down after a couple of minutes.  I was actually very impressed with one of the Salem State players - as he was walking off the field ahead of a couple of his teammates, those teammates were still yelling and gesturing at the refs who were huddled around midfield discussing things, and this player turned around and basically yelled at his teammates to not be talking at all to the referees like they were.  Those players listened to him and subsided after that.

It crossed my mind that the Salem State bus was parked right next to the referee's cars and that the refs would have to pass right by the bus to leave.  I made a joke to another parent that we might need to escort the refs to their cars, but fortunately nothing like that was needed.

Regarding the PK call, I was surprised the ref made it at that time, and at first I thought he was calling the play to go against the St. Joe's player.  IMO, if the ref had made some earlier calls in similar situations (and there were some where St. Joe's got away with too much without a call), then perhaps things wouldn't have played out like they did.  It seemed a little bit to me like a yellow card to one player for persistent infringement, but rather in this instance it was the whole Salem State team was being charged with persistent infringement.   

[stillwatching]

My son plays at another MASCAC school, and their game with Salem State was also VERY contentious.  Lots of extra curricular activities (to be fair on both sides), Salem players waiting in the parking lot, Salem parents egging them on, and verbally abusing our players who were just trying to get to their cars.  VERY strange all the way around.  The refs at our game had a hard time keeping things under control, and the game had very little flow.  I have to admit, I was definitely pulling for St. Joe's  :-)  last night.

That is some bad, bad stuff.  I hope those details were reported to the league.  Waiting in the parking lot?  That's how stuff happens that can ruin lives forever.
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According to my son, our coach did report it to the league, and has asked if the two teams meet in the tournament, that they assign a VERY strong reffing crew to try and keep a lid on things. 

[Bobcat1]

Any thoughts on Regional Rankings being released in the next couple hours. Tufts and Conn top 2, but who is third? Amherst, Midd, St. Joe's?? Where do Babson and Brandies land? I expect Bowdoin will be ranked and Hamilton will fall off.  Certainly will be interesting.

[OldNed]

Here's my stab at it...

Tufts
Conn College
Amherst
Middlebury
Babson
Endicott
Roger Williams
St. Joe's
Springfield
WPI
Bowdoin
Salve Regina

[Bobcat1]

Here's my stab at it...

Tufts
Conn College
Amherst
Middlebury
Babson
Endicott
Roger Williams
St. Joe's
Springfield
WPI
Bowdoin
Salve Regina

I hope St. Joe's is higher than 8th.  I know their SOS hurts them, but this week they will be 2-0-0 against ranked teams.

[PaulNewman]

Here's my stab at it...

Tufts
Conn College
Amherst
Middlebury
Babson
Endicott
Roger Williams
St. Joe's
Springfield
WPI
Bowdoin
Salve Regina

I hope St. Joe's is higher than 8th.  I know their SOS hurts them, but this week they will be 2-0-0 against ranked teams.

Not if you're counting Bowdoin, which will likely count next week.

[blooter442]

Well, the RRs are out, and SJC is 12th of 12. 🙃 I get the SoS but I would still have them much higher. Again, I can very much understand Dubois' frustration.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d3/regional-rankings

[OldNed]

Well, the RRs are out, and SJC is 12th of 12. 🙃

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d3/regional-rankings

Yup - St. Joe's SOS is now .495 after being .513 last week.