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Falconer

Quote from: OldNed on October 24, 2018, 11:04:35 AM

Regarding the PK call, I was surprised the ref made it at that time, and at first I thought he was calling the play to go against the St. Joe's player.  IMO, if the ref had made some earlier calls in similar situations (and there were some where St. Joe's got away with too much without a call), then perhaps things wouldn't have played out like they did.  It seemed a little bit to me like a yellow card to one player for persistent infringement, but rather in this instance it was the whole Salem State team was being charged with persistent infringement.

This is the very reason why I make a fuss when I see officials simply ignoring hard, often intentional, fouling. IMO, the right approach is to card first, ask questions later, and very quickly the cheap shots and other over-the-top stuff stops. Better to err on that side, then to "let them play." Often one team, or both teams, will respond to "letting them play" with increasing levels of physicality that are simply outside the rules. That's when men get hurt--and, so do some teams' chances of winning games that they really haven't an honest right to win, simply b/c they are more strongly favored when rules aren't being enforced.

NEsoccerfan20

These rankings don't include last nights results correct?

blooter442

Quote from: NEsoccerfan20 on October 24, 2018, 03:09:13 PM
These rankings don't include last nights results correct?

No. It says "through games Oct. 24th, 2018" but a quick look at Amherst/Brandeis/Bowdoin/Tufts records shows that neither Monday nor Tuesday games made it in there.

Bobcat1

Quote from: blooter442 on October 24, 2018, 03:11:12 PM
Quote from: NEsoccerfan20 on October 24, 2018, 03:09:13 PM
These rankings don't include last nights results correct?

No. It says "through games Oct. 24th, 2018" but a quick look at Amherst/Brandeis/Bowdoin/Tufts records shows that neither Monday nor Tuesday games made it in there.

Its now changed to games through Oct 21st

NEsoccerfan20

Yeah, Endicott/Springfield result isn't included as well.

Bobcat1

Quote from: PaulNewman on October 24, 2018, 02:56:05 PM
Quote from: Bobcat1 on October 24, 2018, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: OldNed on October 24, 2018, 02:29:43 PM
Here's my stab at it...

Tufts
Conn College
Amherst
Middlebury
Babson
Endicott
Roger Williams
St. Joe's
Springfield
WPI
Bowdoin
Salve Regina

I hope St. Joe's is higher than 8th.  I know their SOS hurts them, but this week they will be 2-0-0 against ranked teams.

Not if you're counting Bowdoin, which will likely count next week.

I agree. So, St. Joe's will pick up another ranked win next week.
Quote from: blooter442 on October 24, 2018, 03:04:16 PM
Well, the RRs are out, and SJC is 12th of 12. 🙃 I get the SoS but I would still have them much higher. Again, I can very much understand Dubois' frustration.

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/soccer-men/d3/regional-rankings

I agree. At least they should pick up another ranked win for next week's rankings (Bowdoin), but it looks like they are going to have to get the AQ to get in to the tournament.

lastguyoffthebench


St. Joe's SOS is .495, so I am surprised they are ranked.  Sitting at #12 in the region, it's win GNAC or bust.

Bobcat1

Looking at the rankings, how big is the Bowdoin/Amherst NESCAC quarterfinal this weekend?? Amherst may still have a Pool C shot with a loss assuming Tufts, Conn, or Midd get the AQ.  I think Bowdoin has to win this game or their season is over. Bowdoin usually responds well to these situations...

Christan Shirk

NEW ENGLAND REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - October 24, 2018

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Tufts
12-0-2
0.599
5-0-2
12-0-2
2
2.
Connecticut College
11-1-2
0.596
4-0-2
11-1-2
1
3.
Babson
9-2-4
0.592
2-2-1
9-2-4
8
4.
Amherst
9-3-1
0.609
1-3-1
9-3-1
4
5.
Middlebury
9-2-3
0.568
2-1-1
9-2-3
7
6.
Bowdoin
9-3-2
0.564
2-2-2
9-3-2
--
7.
Williams
8-4-2
0.573
3-2-0
8-4-2
10
8.
Brandeis
7-5-2
0.652
4-3-1
7-5-2
9
9.
Endicott
9-5-2
0.608
1-4-0
9-5-2
5
10.
Roger Williams
14-3-0
0.555
0-1-0
14-3-0
3
11.
Springfield
11-3-1
0.567
0-2-0
11-3-1
6
12.
St. Joseph's (Maine)
16-0-0
0.495
1-0-0
16-0-0
11
Christan Shirk
Special Consultant and Advisor
D3soccer.com

ECSUalum

#1629
ECSU defeats RIC 2-0 and Keene St loses to UMB in OT 2-1 to win LEC Tournament home field advantage.  Keene St unraveled in the waning minutes of the second half and gave up a penalty kick after the referee cleared the pitch due to roughing and fighting and then the winning goal 2 minutes unto the OT.  Keene a large and physical team, occasionally commits some stupid fouls.  UMB not nearly the team it was a couple of years ago, but still has a way of getting on opponents nerves!
Patrick Agyemang and Nick Starkowski does the damage against the Anchorman.  Key player and Sr MF Justin Jensen may be out for the remainder in what looked to be a serious ankle injury.  Both games played tonight to avoid the Nor'easter tomorrow!


Christan Shirk

NEW ENGLAND REGION - NCAA REGIONAL RANKINGS - October 31, 2018

Rank

School
. Div. III .
Record
. Div. III .
SOS

 . R-v-R .
. Overall .
Record
. Prev. .
Rank
1.
Tufts
13-0-3
0.596
5-0-2
13-0-3
1
2.
Connecticut College
12-2-2
0.588
3-1-2
12-2-2
2
3.
Amherst
12-3-1
0.590
3-3-1
12-3-1
4
4.
Babson
11-2-4
0.581
2-2-1
11-2-4
3
5.
Middlebury
10-3-3
0.571
2-3-1
10-3-3
5
6.
Williams
9-5-2
0.590
3-3-1
9-5-2
7
7.
Endicott
10-5-2
0.605
2-4-0
10-5-2
9
8.
Bowdoin
9-5-2
0.588
2-4-1
9-5-2
6
9.
Hamilton
9-6-1
0.589
2-5-1
9-6-1
--
10.
St. Joseph's (Maine)
18-0-0
0.498
2-0-0
18-0-0
12
11.
Gordon
10-6-1
0.583
1-5-0
10-6-1
--
12.
WPI
12-2-3
0.514
1-2-2
12-2-3
--
Christan Shirk
Special Consultant and Advisor
D3soccer.com

Mr.Right

I was questioning the Gordon addition but if you look at the data sheet there is really no one else to rank...Maybe Colby has a better resume than Gordon but not really and plus there are 7 Nescac's ranked. It also looks like the winner of Williams and Hamilton will get a Pool C as long as conference tournaments around the country do not see to many upsets. There have been a couple already.

blooter442

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 31, 2018, 02:49:38 PM
I was questioning the Gordon addition but if you look at the data sheet there is really no one else to rank...Maybe Colby has a better resume than Gordon but not really and plus there are 7 Nescac's ranked. It also looks like the winner of Williams and Hamilton will get a Pool C as long as conference tournaments around the country do not see to many upsets. There have been a couple already.

Gordon won the H2H this year IIRC.

With two Pool Cs going to Tufts and Conn., the rest of the teams in the rankings will have to bank on Amherst and Babson winning their conference tournaments. Should that happen, Midd. and Williams will be right in the thick of it, and I would like to see the Ephs get a bid. That Tufts result is extra-crushing for Bowdoin, whom I'd have to imagine would be at least a spot higher had they held out for the win.

OldNed

Quote from: Mr.Right on October 31, 2018, 02:49:38 PM
I was questioning the Gordon addition but if you look at the data sheet there is really no one else to rank...Maybe Colby has a better resume than Gordon but not really and plus there are 7 Nescac's ranked. It also looks like the winner of Williams and Hamilton will get a Pool C as long as conference tournaments around the country do not see to many upsets. There have been a couple already.

I think Colby's 0-4-3 RVR is what's keeping them out of the rankings.  If you can't even pull off one victory in 7 decisions over a ranked team, in my opinion you don't belong in the regional rankings.

Mr.Right

I kind of am rootin for Endicott who has really righted the ship and has a chance to get a bid here especially with Couchot graduating it would be a solid story.


Also, WCONN defeated Castleton last night to qualify for the Little East Semi's going against rival ECONN on Saturday. Chauncey Allers is one smooth poacher as he is just racking up some serious First Team All-American stats as he scored the winning goal last night with 3 seconds left in OT. Chauncey Allers has 23 Goals, 9 Assists for 55 Points. He has 104 Shots with 56 of them on net. 23 Goals and 56 SOG is almost 1 Goal for every 2 SOG which is deadly. He has 5 GW'ers and is 2-2 on PK's....Kid is a player but can his GK and defense hold up to get their second straight ticket to the NCAA's?