FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[scandihoovian]

GF beat me to it, but yes, CalSon is the board's unofficial APU spokesperson.  As such, he does a bang up job reminding me why I am forever grateful that CLU no longer competes in the GSAC.

[wildcat11]

GF beat me to it, but yes, CalSon is the board's unofficial APU spokesperson.  As such, he does a bang up job reminding me why I am forever grateful that CLU no longer competes in the GSAC.

Yes, I'll be more blunt.  CalSon is a douche bag* Azusa fan that lurks on this board because nobody wants to talk independant football on the NAIA board. 

*Oxy Bob edit

[RFB]

Speaking about Pavlovian, I feel now is the appropriate time to mention that I hear Redands has an excellent Dodgeball class.   

Redlands Football: dodge, duck, dip, dive and dodging Linfield since 2003. 

I did hear we tried to hook up with the Dawgs once again but I guess that a mid-level ASC team offered Maynard all he could eat ribs if they made the trip out to Texas and he couldn't say no.

Yep, Redlands is responsible for Linfields inability to get it done the last three years.

Never said that but I would like to trade our game with the Division II we play every year with a team we have a tradition of clam slamming.

I didn't hear any Linfield fans complaining about that schedule in 2004/2005. As matter of fact is was all trash talk about how great Linfield was and that they could and would play and beat anybody. My, how that tune sure has changed.

No, I actually was one Wildcat that saw typing/saying to dump WOU all the way back in 2004.  It was only a matter time before WOU started to take advantage of the DII status and as our defending national champion will tell you that there is a clear difference between the two divisions.  I have no shame in saying in it does no good to play WOU anymore...it didn't back in 04/05 either.

Keep dreaming about your Selway scenario...I would love to say the same thing about Boehme/Linfield too but that wasn't our reality this year so leave that argument at home. 

And I bet the dropoff in play from your #1 and #2 was not as drastic as it was at Redlands. It was a big part in Redlands losing both games this year.

RFB - With all due respect, injuries to key players are a part of the game.  Redlands lost to Oxy and Cal Lu without Selway, but I didn't hear much complaining about Smith as their QB when they were blowing away their other opponents.  Certainly, real time playing experience helps - especially at QB - but the bottom line is that there can always be "ifs" and "buts" with injuries.  For example, Oxy may have been a totally different team last year in its games against Cal Lu and Whittier if it had had its two top running backs, its top defensive lineman and its top linebacker, all of whom were out with injuries very early in the season.  In this year's Redlands v Oxy game, IMHO, I'm not sure if Selway would have made a big difference in the outcome.  Oxy's defense pressured the QB all night, and he really had little chance to do anything.  Also, Oxy arguably "should have" scored a couple more TDs when it was inside Redland's 5 yard line.  I am not taking anything away from your team, but unfortunately, injuries to key players happen all the time and sometimes it's hard for teams to adjust - just ask the New England Patriots.   

Here is why Selway would have made a huge difference in the Oxy/Cal Lu games. First off, he is very athletic and mobile. Also, he has a very quick release and and just plain a way better passer then Steve Smith.

Oxy stacked the box with eight players and ran jailbreaks all night. With Selway under center Oxy would have got burned bigtime with that strategy. They would have had to employ a more traditional defensive gameplan. Also, Redlands could have opened up its running game which was still doing fine against Oxy.

Nothing against Steve Smith. He is a very capable quarterback and from what I have a heard is a great kid. Oxy and Cal Lu were able to take away Redlands passing attack and make Redlands beat them with the running game. With Selway at qb that is not the case. Redlands could burn you both ways with Selway under center.

[OxyBob]

GF beat me to it, but yes, CalSon is the board's unofficial APU spokesperson.  As such, he does a bang up job reminding me why I am forever grateful that CLU no longer competes in the GSAC.

Yes, I'll be more blunt.  CalSon is a douchebag Azusa fan that lurks on this board because nobody wants to talk independant football on the NAIA board. 

I believe the preferred spelling is douche bag.

OxyBob

[OXY Oswald]

There's an implication in an earlier post that with Oxy, UR and CLU the SCIAC is a good football conference. 

Really?  Since when? 

What's the SCIAC's alltime DIII postseason record?

It's a bad football conference.  A bad athletic conference, period.

Who is this joker? The SCIAC is by no means a power house conference but to call it a bad conference is just plain idiotic.

How many SCIAC games have you seen?  You must be spending your time in La Verne. 

Whoa, whoa, whoa... That's MR California you're talking to there, show some respect.  A PU is building on their 2nd win of the season over the East Texas Baptist Tigers...

[OxyBob]

Here is why Selway would have made a huge difference in the Oxy/Cal Lu games. First off, he is very athletic and mobile. Also, he has a very quick release and and just plain a way better passer then Steve Smith.

Wah wah wah

Sour grapes. In 2007 Selway was 30-for-59 for 438 yds and 2 TDs and Oxy still beat UR. And unless Selway also plays strong safety, he wasn't going to be in there this season when Goltz and Haller ran wild on the UR defense.

I don't recall that Redlands had any sympathy for Oxy when Tyler Paopao was injured and didn't play in the 2003 game.

Oxy > Redlands

OxyBob

[RFB]

I'm new to the board so please be kind. I've been following D3 football for years. I thought I would start by giving my thoughts on the Selway issue.  With my limited understanding of the rules it seems like Selway should not be back next year. The NCAA rules say that if you participate in 20% (2 Games) of the season your done. Selway has participated in 20% of the season every year he has been at Redlands.

Welcome to post patterns! Remember, Redlands plays a nine game schedule so two games would be less than 20%.

[RFB]

Here is why Selway would have made a huge difference in the Oxy/Cal Lu games. First off, he is very athletic and mobile. Also, he has a very quick release and and just plain a way better passer then Steve Smith.

Wah wah wah

Sour grapes. In 2007 Selway was 30-for-59 for 438 yds and 2 TDs and Oxy still beat UR. And unless Selway also plays strong safety, he wasn't going to be in there this season when Goltz and Haller ran wild on the UR defense.

I don't recall that Redlands had any sympathy for Oxy when Tyler Paopao was injured and didn't play in the 2003 game.

Oxy > Redlands

OxyBob

Redlands is three touchdowns better in both games with Selway in the lineup.

[Pat Coleman]

I'm new to the board so please be kind. I've been following D3 football for years. I thought I would start by giving my thoughts on the Selway issue.  With my limited understanding of the rules it seems like Selway should not be back next year. The NCAA rules say that if you participate in 20% (2 Games) of the season your done. Selway has participated in 20% of the season every year he has been at Redlands.

It's actually 33%, however, not 20%. And they round up, so it's four games on a 10-game schedule.

[cawcdad]

I'm new to the board so please be kind. I've been following D3 football for years. I thought I would start by giving my thoughts on the Selway issue.  With my limited understanding of the rules it seems like Selway should not be back next year. The NCAA rules say that if you participate in 20% (2 Games) of the season your done. Selway has participated in 20% of the season every year he has been at Redlands.

Welcome to post patterns! Remember, Redlands plays a nine game schedule so two games would be less than 20%.

2 out of 9 is 22.2%

[Fear the Poet]

on another note..what happened to George Foreman? He wasn't on the Redlands roster..right?

[D O.C.]

22.2%....does that count The Haskel Indian Nation thingy?

[snoop dawg]

It doesn't matter.  Even if he doesn't qualify for a red shirt for this season, he still has one year left.  He has the red shirt soph year left.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Keep in mind, the SCIAC really doesn't seem to follow NCAA rules.

What depth of misunderstanding would cause you to make such an utterly ridiculous and inaccurate statement?

[Mr. Ypsi]

Keep in mind, the SCIAC really doesn't seem to follow NCAA rules.

What depth of misunderstanding would cause you to make such an utterly ridiculous and inaccurate statement?

Tooth, you're forgiven for that wimpy response, since I suppose Pat would have had to bleep your true feelings!