FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OXY Oswald]

I gave Oxy props for a good effort in the playoffs but the reality is that Redlands has never been stomped like that in the playoffs. They lost three playoff games by a total of twenty points and another to the eventual National Champs by three touchdowns.

Redlands would have been slapped by Linfield, don't toy with the board and try to put doubt in anyone's mind.  Every team, even Redlands and Oxy has down years (or years where they are not where they should be).  Get off your high Redlands horse and just hope for more next year big guy.  

Try winning some playoff games.

Go Tigers!

[OXY Oswald]

And when Collins graduates, we've got Justin Goltz waiting to come in and step it up.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

According to the D3Football website, the SCIAC has two playoff victories against four losses since automatic bids were introduced . . . let's see, those two victories belong to  . . . . now who was that . . . Redlands . . . no, that's not right . . . wait a minute . . . it's coming to me . . . oh yes, now I recall, the Occidental College Tigers . . . that's the ticket.  So I guess that makes Oxy what, 2-2 in the playoffs since automatic bids . . . what's Redland's record?

[El Tigre]

I would rather Redlands be 5-4 playing real programs then be 7-2 playing high school competition. Redlands will be back on top soon they have done it before.

Let me take care of this once and for all ... RFB we all understand that oxy plays team that are not as high caliber as many would like to see, but it has been said before OXY CANNOT CHANGE ITS SCHEDULE TILL THE CONTRACTS EXPIRE!  I mean if it is all right with everyone can we drop this subject because I believe we have beaten it to death.  However, if you RFB if that's to only thing you have to ride on to make oxy better than oxy given that we have beat them TWO years in a row then I understand, but I feel it a little pathetic!

Congrats to Oxy for beating a very average Redlands team by a touchdown. What was funny is that Redlands was pretty even with Oxy talent wise with the exception of Collins. I gave Oxy props for a good effort in the playoffs but the reality is that Redlands has never been stomped like that in the playoffs. They lost three playoff games by a total of twenty points and another to the eventual National Champs by three touchdowns. The game was closer then the score as they (Wisconsin-Lacrosse) scored two touchdowns in the last five minutes. Playing in 10 degee weather and light snow was interesting. Redlands will be back, book it.

All right lets start off with the Redlands vs. Oxy comment:

Univ. of Redlands...  7  14  0  3
Occidental............... 14  7  7  3

The game shows that the score were pretty much the same!  The only exception is the extra 7 points for oxy in the third quarter. If you want to say it was close because Redlands almost scored late in the fourth to tie it up then live off that until next season, but the truth is the tigers won!  The second thing is why do you now call Redlands an "average" team?  Would you like us to put an * next to the win, I mean would that make you feel warm inside?  The reality is that oxy is better that Redlands whether the score is 50-0 or 3-0 ... a win is a win!  I agree with Oswald get off your Redlands high horse!  Third, we understand that Redlands has never been "stomped" in the playoffs, but you have also never won.  Last season we won two playoff games by 16 points to two very good teams and just so you don't have to look it up we also lost to eventual national champions and the number one team in the nation by 71 points (but we weren't the only team that Linfield did this to)

My last note is that I hope that all teams in the SCIAC get better over the off-season because it would make for better games.  RFB all we are trying to say is quit living off past stats ... right now OXY is on top with a big target on their backs and we know it!

3-peat in '06
Get'em Tigers!

[D O.C.]

Aren't we all bored and boarded...
if OXYCollins comes back, indeed, I predict some transfer receivers coming into Eagle Rock.

                                      8)

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Hope you're right . . . cuz he's coming back.

8)

[Tom Brady]

Well well well, where do I begin?  I see a lot of comments back and forth between the OXY and Redlands fans.  I have an easy way to solve this all.  Just let Cal Lu take the playoff spot and get beat down by someone in the playoffs .
My opinion on the whole thing is that the SCIAC seems like a conference that will be tough to build a dynasty (such as St. Johns or Mount Union) that will year in and year out dismantle the other 6-7 schools.  Why I believe this is the fact that there is sooooo many good high school football players in So. Cal that a few schools will get it's fair share of the top guys.

Oswald- I like you and the way you think but I don't agree with the comment "try winning some playoff games."  I don't really agree because the SCIAC is 2-4 in the playoffs in the past few years.  Yes, OXY did win both games but I think that is a little bit of a weak statement.  Not starting a pissing match with you though .

All in all, I think the SCIAC will be a very tough race next year, but OXY sure does have a leg up with Collins back.  Jones isn't too bad either though and Redlands will always be tough.  Who knows, maybe Whittier will battle for the title too.......wait, nevermind that!

[RFB]

I say an average Redlands team compared to the Redlands teams I played on in the 90's. It really is like night and day. I know Redlands would have gotten monkey stomped in the playoffs this year. That is why they did not make the playoffs, because average teams usually don't. But the Oxy team I saw did not really impress me that much outside of Collins at quarterback. When Oxy is down they win one game or lose every game. I take comfort that 5-4 or 4-5 is a terrible year for Redlands.

As far as non-conference scheduling goes, every coach has a hand in who they play. I would just like to see Oxy step up its competition when their contracts expire with CC and L&C. It helps the SCIAC take that next step to national recognition.

Now, I knew the inevitable how many playoff games have you won call would come. My opinion is that Oxy was able to get a home date and not have to travel on the road and play the #1 seed in 2004 was a direct result of Redlands competitive, hard nosed play in their four playoff appearances. Redlands in my opinion could have won a round or two of games just like Oxy if they had a home date at the Runner in 1990,1992, 2002, or 2003. Anyone that says Redlands did not help pave the way for Oxy's playoff success in 2004 does not know DIII football very well. Remember, just my opinion.

1990 #1 Central 20, #4 Redlands 14
1992 #1 Wisc-Lacrosse 47, #4 Redlands 29 (Wisc-Lacrosse 1992 DIII National Champs)
2002 #2 St. Johns 31, #7 Redlands 24
2003 #2 Linfield 31, #7 Redlands 24

All of these were on the road and Redlands was the last seed in the West. Oxy faced this same scenario this year and we all know the result. What would have happened in 2004 if Oxy played at Linfield in the 1st round? I think we all know what the result would have been. Oh yeah, in 1990 and 1992 only sixteen teams made the dance. I think that says something about Redlands.

[downtown48]

I don't know if I just saw them on a bad day but Collins was ALL they had at Linfield this year...he got ZERO help in that game.  I'm thinking everybody may have had an off day or been intimidated or whatever...but he looked PISSED walking off the field at half time.   If it weren't for Collins that game would have been 63-0.  So RFB, you can take solace in that fact.  I don't know what's in the cupboard after Collins but they'll be tough next year still...

[Browneagle64]

Sabertooth Tiger-----Man, I have to to agree with what you posted up in a recent post. I agree that being classy needs to be the way that people should live by. But, as you can see everyone is different.  Which is fine.  That's just human nature.

All i would say about the last post is that as long as new kids can feed off the idea that they can help contribute to Oxy's  present success , get a good education, and to play football, this will take them far. Again, most of the kids that come in don't control schedules, what ranked teams they play or who they play. THey just want to contribute to keep climbing to the top.  

[RFB]

Mentone Jr. College and West Yucaipa State. Those are pretty creative. How about Crackhouse University and North LA Vato College for Oxy.

OxyBob congrats to Oxy. They can sure be proud of the 1600 yards of offense and the 100+ points they have given up to Linfield that last two years.

[OxyFan21]

Vato College for Oxy?   ...maybe you could say that about Oxy in the mid 90's, but if you take a look around the campus (or at the statistics online), certainly the multicultural numbers have decreased in Eagle Rock.

I prefer to take solace in the fact that we have consistenly been ranked in the top tier of US News, have alumni who are in top positions at the Washington Post and Red Cross and also have alumni like us fools here on this board.  That, and a Top 10 football team.

I know for a fact, if I tried to apply to Oxy now, I wouldn't have gotten in and probably would have ended up at...well...

As has been said previously, contracts are contracts.  We can't get out of them until they are done.

All in good fun, it certainly has proven to be a lively start to the off-season on here.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

OxyFan21 reminded me of this little ditty:

Don't send my boy to Harvard, the dying mother said.
Don't send my boy to U.S.C., I'd rather see him dead!

But send him to ol' Oxy, 'tis better than Cornell,
and rather than Pomona, I'd see my boy in...SCRIPPS!
8)

[RFB]

The SCIAC schools do have a stellar academic reputation. I wouldn't trade my education or experience at Redlands for anything.

[OXY Oswald]

Some more than others