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RFB

I can answer this question. Redlands High School used to be the largest school, population wise West of the Mississippi. They had over 5000 students and yes they were a power in football. Redlands East Valley opened in 1997 and took half of the school and is now the power in football, although Redlands is still strong.

As for the University of Redlands, although they are down right now I can say with much confidence that they will be back on top real soon. They won three straight SCIAC titles(1990-1992) and then Laverne had their run winning three straight(1993-1995). Redlands was still strong though in that time period(1993:6-3/1994:6-2-1/1995:4-5). Redlands then in 1996(My senior season) beat an undefeated Laverne team in the last game of the year on their field for the SCIAC title in overtime.

Redlands in the nine years since have won 5 SCIAC titles with two playoff appearances. The same coach is at the helm and knows how to "Get It Done". So yes the Dawgs will be back sooner probably then later.

Le Tigre

In an effort to turn the focus of SCIAC from the 80's and 90's to the new millenium and possibly spark some conversation about what happend to teams who may had a great year before but fell off the following year, here are the final SCIAC standings for the top three teams from the turn of the century, 2000 to the present:

2000: Redlands 5-0, 7-2; Whittier 4-1, 4-5; Oxy 2-3, 5-4
2001: Oxy 5-0, 8-1; Cal Lu 3-2, 6-3; Redlands 3-2, 5-3
2002: Redlands 5-0, 7-3; CMS 4-1, 7-2; Cal Lu 3-2, 4-5
2003: Redlands 5-1, 6-4; Oxy 4-2; 7-2; CMS 4-2, 6-3
2004: Oxy 6-0, 10-2; Cal Lu 4-2, 6-3; La Verne 3-3, 4-5
2005: Oxy 6-0,  9-1; Cal Lu 5-1, 8-1; Redlands 4-2, 5-4

So it seems that since the new millenium, Oxy and Redlands have had dominance over the SCIAC, each team with 3 conference titles in the past 6 years. Although Cal Lu has been right on their heels finishing a close second three of those year. I would venture to say that Cal Lu might surprise some people next year. It will be a great game when Cal Lu takes the half a day trip out to Redlands, and when the Tigers head out to T.O. Cal Lu is 2-1 vs. Oxy at the Kingsman Stadium (not sure what it is called). I know many of you remember the 2002 Mud Bowl in which Cal Lu beat Oxy 6-0, boy that was one sloppy game...

Get'em Tigers

OXY Oswald

Quote from: Le Tigre on December 11, 2005, 08:24:22 PM
Cal Lu is 2-1 vs. Oxy at the Kingsman Stadium (not sure what it is called). I know many of you remember the 2002 Mud Bowl in which Cal Lu beat Oxy 6-0, boy that was one sloppy game...

Get'em Tigers
I believe it is Mt. Clef Stadium
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Gray Fox

I noticed that the UWW game was delayed an hour so that the ground crew could properly prepare the field.

I'll bet that some old Oxy players wish the same thing had happened a few years ago in their famous game with Central. :-X
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Browneagle64

Le tigre------I'm glad that you put this info up. A while ago, i had mentioned this to some Redlands posters on the board and all they would bring up was the 80's as well as the early and late 90's. I told them that yes, in deed, they should be commended for having such a good program during these  years. But, they could never let go of the past and see that a new pidegree of football was being established at other schools besides Redlands.

I remember these past years fondly as being years in which most SCIAC schools still have goals of taking out the top team of the league. This is why a lot of teams started changing coaches, recuirting methods and programs that would gear them to the top.

So all i say is yes, live in the present. Learn from the past.


In an effort to turn the focus of SCIAC from the 80's and 90's to the new millenium and possibly spark some conversation about what happend to teams who may had a great year before but fell off the following year, here are the final SCIAC standings for the top three teams from the turn of the century, 2000 to the present:

2000: Redlands 5-0, 7-2; Whittier 4-1, 4-5; Oxy 2-3, 5-4
2001: Oxy 5-0, 8-1; Cal Lu 3-2, 6-3; Redlands 3-2, 5-3
2002: Redlands 5-0, 7-3; CMS 4-1, 7-2; Cal Lu 3-2, 4-5
2003: Redlands 5-1, 6-4; Oxy 4-2; 7-2; CMS 4-2, 6-3
2004: Oxy 6-0, 10-2; Cal Lu 4-2, 6-3; La Verne 3-3, 4-5
2005: Oxy 6-0,  9-1; Cal Lu 5-1, 8-1; Redlands 4-2, 5-4

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DawgHeaven

Congratulations to Mike Bryant on making the Aztec bowl.  I played against him, but do not remember him.  He may have been hurt.  Is he playing safety because he thinks his pro stock will rise?  Also, I ment to say that the Bulldogs have not lost by 40+ points to the Tigres.  Revenge of the Bulldogs in 2006.

OXY Oswald

Quote from: Bulldog4Life on December 12, 2005, 12:29:45 PM
Congratulations to Mike Bryant on making the Aztec bowl.  Is he playing safety because he thinks his pro stock will rise? 
Still playing outside linebacker.
Go TIGERS!!!

Tough days for Tiger Football.

Gray Fox

Here's a song I don't expect to hear in the near future. :D

Cal Tech
"Fight for California Tech"

Fight men of California Tech
Fight, Fight and win
Win men for California Tech
Rush the foe again,
RAH! RAH! RAH!
Smash the line of our old enemy
Bring home the victory
Fight men of California Tech
For noble C.I.T.

I guess I have too much time on my hands.  ;D
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RFB


rbaikie

Quote from: OXY Oswald on December 12, 2005, 04:16:04 PM
Quote from: Bulldog4Life on December 12, 2005, 12:29:45 PM
Congratulations to Mike Bryant on making the Aztec bowl.  Is he playing safety because he thinks his pro stock will rise? 
Still playing outside linebacker.

Oxy Oswald - The press release says he will be playing DB. Also if you check out the AFCA website, he is listed as a DB.

Per the OXY roster, he is 6'3", 230#  - I know he can hit and tackle - I didn't see him play - is he quick/nimble enough to play Strong Safety?

OXY Oswald

Quote from: rbaikie on December 12, 2005, 05:46:34 PM
Oxy Oswald - The press release says he will be playing DB. Also if you check out the AFCA website, he is listed as a DB.

Per the OXY roster, he is 6'3", 230#  - I know he can hit and tackle - I didn't see him play - is he quick/nimble enough to play Strong Safety?
Did not see that, guess its true then.  Mike is one of the best all around athletes at Occidental, so I see him doing great things in the Aztec Bowl.
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: OXY Oswald on December 12, 2005, 04:16:04 PM
Quote from: Bulldog4Life on December 12, 2005, 12:29:45 PM
Congratulations to Mike Bryant on making the Aztec bowl.  Is he playing safety because he thinks his pro stock will rise? 
Still playing outside linebacker.

I queried the AFCA on this and they said he will be playing a rover position, which they listed as a generic DB and I clarified as a safety on our roster list this morning.

As you know, that kind of makes both statements correct, depending on how they use him.
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Sabretooth Tiger

RFB writes:  "Cal Tech should fold all athletic programs."

Why?  This is from their website:

"Caltech athletics (like much else about this place) have their own special character--which is directly related to the character of Techers themselves. It's telling that, even though Caltech could never be mistaken for a jock school, all 200 of our varsity athletes were named Sports Ethics Fellows by the Institute for International Sport in 2003. Why? Because they are (in the words of IIS director Daniel Doyle) "a group of young people who face formidable academic pressure and who value their sports experience for reasons that transcend winning. . . . Their lessons are learned . . . from teamwork, developing friendships, managing time, and turning the disappointment of frequent losses into a resolve to do better the next game." It's a tenet of Tech life that anyone who wants to participate in sports should be given the opportunity."

So RFB, I know that you are a devoted Redlands fan and you like to throw your jibes at other programs from time to time . . .but why, in your opinion, should Cal Tech students be deprived of the opportunity to participate in sports like the rest of us? 

Personally, I say more power to them . . . they have my utmost admiration for coming back and playing against great adversity . . . while many of us had hopes of playing for championship hardware . . . though maybe not earning such . . . these guys come back solely for the enjoyment of competing.  That's pretty cool my my book.

RFB

ST,

You make some good points, but here are my reasons.

1. Cal Tech stopped fielding competitive teams a very long time ago. I would be probably be accurate in saying that it has been multiple decades. I want the SCIAC as a conference to keep building its national profile. With Cal Tech in the mix, it hurts to attain that goal.


2. I understand wanting your students to experience athletics, it helps a person develop in a competitive arena. This could easily be attained within an intramural or club environment at Cal Tech.




OXY Oswald

Hey Sabertooth, with any luck Cal Tech will start a top-notch football program.  :o

Making the entire conference more intellectual.  I say let them play intermurals and quit messing around.
Go TIGERS!!!

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