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olddog

Hemingway,

I sure hope I am right in the QB dept. I am sure you understand it is my attempt to explain a coach's logic.

The bottom line in the SCIAC most schools are not that committed to sports. Most keep them in order to keep the male population up and alumni happy. The only way they would play 10 if the alumni forced the issue.

JV Team. I think UR, CLU, Whittier, LV and Chapman could field a team given their numbers. Yes it would help. MHB had many seniors on the field that played JV ball for them. It can only add depth to your program. I think the area it would help the most in developing O linemen. Real D3 Prospects that a coach knows can help him are the 6' 250 # very good HS player that the D1s passed on due to his size and the 6'4" 290# that just did not move well enough or were missed by D1. I see the other power schools develop these guys, where SCIAC schools are very thin in the O line dept.

10th Game. This is why at best any SCIAC team will only win one game in the play offs. It is a reflection of the leagues lack of commitment to the sport. We all know it comes down to money. A third preseason game would be costly since most likely each school would have to travel every other year. I think this is the major reason the league does not do it. Heck La Verne only brings the boys to the school for a couple days before school starts so they do not have to pay for the boys on campus early for two weeks. This is why they play this weekend, to avoid those cost too.
Funny how things always come back to the money.


Less than two more years of Gavin.

MonroviaCat

Quote from: olddog on September 12, 2013, 10:58:04 AM
Hemingway,

I sure hope I am right in the QB dept. I am sure you understand it is my attempt to explain a coach's logic.

The bottom line in the SCIAC most schools are not that committed to sports. Most keep them in order to keep the male population up and alumni happy. The only way they would play 10 if the alumni forced the issue.

JV Team. I think UR, CLU, Whittier, LV and Chapman could field a team given their numbers. Yes it would help. MHB had many seniors on the field that played JV ball for them. It can only add depth to your program. I think the area it would help the most in developing O linemen. Real D3 Prospects that a coach knows can help him are the 6' 250 # very good HS player that the D1s passed on due to his size and the 6'4" 290# that just did not move well enough or were missed by D1. I see the other power schools develop these guys, where SCIAC schools are very thin in the O line dept.

10th Game. This is why at best any SCIAC team will only win one game in the play offs. It is a reflection of the leagues lack of commitment to the sport. We all know it comes down to money. A third preseason game would be costly since most likely each school would have to travel every other year. I think this is the major reason the league does not do it. Heck La Verne only brings the boys to the school for a couple days before school starts so they do not have to pay for the boys on campus early for two weeks. This is why they play this weekend, to avoid those cost too.
Funny how things always come back to the money.
FWIW--Linfield has played a 9 game schedule for as long as I've been paying attention.  Granted they have had 3 non-league games due to having only 6 conference opponents (but this changes next season).  We've managed to get a little further than one playoff game.
Go Cats!

olddog

Quote from: MonroviaCat on September 12, 2013, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: olddog on September 12, 2013, 10:58:04 AM
Hemingway,

I sure hope I am right in the QB dept. I am sure you understand it is my attempt to explain a coach's logic.

The bottom line in the SCIAC most schools are not that committed to sports. Most keep them in order to keep the male population up and alumni happy. The only way they would play 10 if the alumni forced the issue.

JV Team. I think UR, CLU, Whittier, LV and Chapman could field a team given their numbers. Yes it would help. MHB had many seniors on the field that played JV ball for them. It can only add depth to your program. I think the area it would help the most in developing O linemen. Real D3 Prospects that a coach knows can help him are the 6' 250 # very good HS player that the D1s passed on due to his size and the 6'4" 290# that just did not move well enough or were missed by D1. I see the other power schools develop these guys, where SCIAC schools are very thin in the O line dept.

10th Game. This is why at best any SCIAC team will only win one game in the play offs. It is a reflection of the leagues lack of commitment to the sport. We all know it comes down to money. A third preseason game would be costly since most likely each school would have to travel every other year. I think this is the major reason the league does not do it. Heck La Verne only brings the boys to the school for a couple days before school starts so they do not have to pay for the boys on campus early for two weeks. This is why they play this weekend, to avoid those cost too.
Funny how things always come back to the money.
FWIW--Linfield has played a 9 game schedule for as long as I've been paying attention.  Granted they have had 3 non-league games due to having only 6 conference opponents (but this changes next season).  We've managed to get a little further than one playoff game.

Cat, If you measure how committed LF is to football against any of the SCIAC teams it is not close. I agree more to it than just one game, plus don't you guys play some JV games, how many full time coaches ? , and facilities? I would say LF is more committed than any SCIAC school. Closest we have is CLU, then UR.
Less than two more years of Gavin.


MonroviaCat

Quote from: olddog on September 12, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on September 12, 2013, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: olddog on September 12, 2013, 10:58:04 AM
Hemingway,

I sure hope I am right in the QB dept. I am sure you understand it is my attempt to explain a coach's logic.

The bottom line in the SCIAC most schools are not that committed to sports. Most keep them in order to keep the male population up and alumni happy. The only way they would play 10 if the alumni forced the issue.

JV Team. I think UR, CLU, Whittier, LV and Chapman could field a team given their numbers. Yes it would help. MHB had many seniors on the field that played JV ball for them. It can only add depth to your program. I think the area it would help the most in developing O linemen. Real D3 Prospects that a coach knows can help him are the 6' 250 # very good HS player that the D1s passed on due to his size and the 6'4" 290# that just did not move well enough or were missed by D1. I see the other power schools develop these guys, where SCIAC schools are very thin in the O line dept.

10th Game. This is why at best any SCIAC team will only win one game in the play offs. It is a reflection of the leagues lack of commitment to the sport. We all know it comes down to money. A third preseason game would be costly since most likely each school would have to travel every other year. I think this is the major reason the league does not do it. Heck La Verne only brings the boys to the school for a couple days before school starts so they do not have to pay for the boys on campus early for two weeks. This is why they play this weekend, to avoid those cost too.
Funny how things always come back to the money.
FWIW--Linfield has played a 9 game schedule for as long as I've been paying attention.  Granted they have had 3 non-league games due to having only 6 conference opponents (but this changes next season).  We've managed to get a little further than one playoff game.

Cat, If you measure how committed LF is to football against any of the SCIAC teams it is not close. I agree more to it than just one game, plus don't you guys play some JV games, how many full time coaches ? , and facilities? I would say LF is more committed than any SCIAC school. Closest we have is CLU, then UR.
Wasn't trying to compare Linfield to the SCIAC schools as there is obvious a huge difference between most of the SCIAC and Linfield (I think CLU has really committed to winning in recent years for sure)--just pointing out that having 10 games doesn't necessarily make a team better/more successful.
Go Cats!

wildcat11

Quote from: MonroviaCat on September 12, 2013, 12:58:23 PM
Quote from: olddog on September 12, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on September 12, 2013, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: olddog on September 12, 2013, 10:58:04 AM
Hemingway,

I sure hope I am right in the QB dept. I am sure you understand it is my attempt to explain a coach's logic.

The bottom line in the SCIAC most schools are not that committed to sports. Most keep them in order to keep the male population up and alumni happy. The only way they would play 10 if the alumni forced the issue.

JV Team. I think UR, CLU, Whittier, LV and Chapman could field a team given their numbers. Yes it would help. MHB had many seniors on the field that played JV ball for them. It can only add depth to your program. I think the area it would help the most in developing O linemen. Real D3 Prospects that a coach knows can help him are the 6' 250 # very good HS player that the D1s passed on due to his size and the 6'4" 290# that just did not move well enough or were missed by D1. I see the other power schools develop these guys, where SCIAC schools are very thin in the O line dept.

10th Game. This is why at best any SCIAC team will only win one game in the play offs. It is a reflection of the leagues lack of commitment to the sport. We all know it comes down to money. A third preseason game would be costly since most likely each school would have to travel every other year. I think this is the major reason the league does not do it. Heck La Verne only brings the boys to the school for a couple days before school starts so they do not have to pay for the boys on campus early for two weeks. This is why they play this weekend, to avoid those cost too.
Funny how things always come back to the money.
FWIW--Linfield has played a 9 game schedule for as long as I've been paying attention.  Granted they have had 3 non-league games due to having only 6 conference opponents (but this changes next season).  We've managed to get a little further than one playoff game.

Cat, If you measure how committed LF is to football against any of the SCIAC teams it is not close. I agree more to it than just one game, plus don't you guys play some JV games, how many full time coaches ? , and facilities? I would say LF is more committed than any SCIAC school. Closest we have is CLU, then UR.
Wasn't trying to compare Linfield to the SCIAC schools as there is obvious a huge difference between most of the SCIAC and Linfield (I think CLU has really committed to winning in recent years for sure)--just pointing out that having 10 games doesn't necessarily make a team better/more successful.

Actually, Lewis and Clark spends more money on football than Linfield does.  Crazy as it sounds the college could do more to put more ($) resources into football as well as athletics across the board, IMO.

olddog

Quote from: madzillagd on September 10, 2013, 04:01:34 PM
I posted this on the hoops board but since most folks aren't paying attention to SCIAC hoops now (or 4 months from now sadly), thought I'd throw it out here too.

Mike Dunlap is doing a Chalk Talk on Thursday night - open to the public and free but you have to RSVP to save a seat.

https://www.callutheran.edu/calendar/event/3071

I guess CLU does not stream their games anymore? any info CLU fans ?
Less than two more years of Gavin.

D3MAFAN

Quote from: MonroviaCat on September 12, 2013, 12:58:23 PM
Quote from: olddog on September 12, 2013, 12:32:11 PM
Quote from: MonroviaCat on September 12, 2013, 12:03:41 PM
Quote from: olddog on September 12, 2013, 10:58:04 AM
Hemingway,

I sure hope I am right in the QB dept. I am sure you understand it is my attempt to explain a coach's logic.

The bottom line in the SCIAC most schools are not that committed to sports. Most keep them in order to keep the male population up and alumni happy. The only way they would play 10 if the alumni forced the issue.

JV Team. I think UR, CLU, Whittier, LV and Chapman could field a team given their numbers. Yes it would help. MHB had many seniors on the field that played JV ball for them. It can only add depth to your program. I think the area it would help the most in developing O linemen. Real D3 Prospects that a coach knows can help him are the 6' 250 # very good HS player that the D1s passed on due to his size and the 6'4" 290# that just did not move well enough or were missed by D1. I see the other power schools develop these guys, where SCIAC schools are very thin in the O line dept.

10th Game. This is why at best any SCIAC team will only win one game in the play offs. It is a reflection of the leagues lack of commitment to the sport. We all know it comes down to money. A third preseason game would be costly since most likely each school would have to travel every other year. I think this is the major reason the league does not do it. Heck La Verne only brings the boys to the school for a couple days before school starts so they do not have to pay for the boys on campus early for two weeks. This is why they play this weekend, to avoid those cost too.
Funny how things always come back to the money.
FWIW--Linfield has played a 9 game schedule for as long as I've been paying attention.  Granted they have had 3 non-league games due to having only 6 conference opponents (but this changes next season).  We've managed to get a little further than one playoff game.

Cat, If you measure how committed LF is to football against any of the SCIAC teams it is not close. I agree more to it than just one game, plus don't you guys play some JV games, how many full time coaches ? , and facilities? I would say LF is more committed than any SCIAC school. Closest we have is CLU, then UR.
Wasn't trying to compare Linfield to the SCIAC schools as there is obvious a huge difference between most of the SCIAC and Linfield (I think CLU has really committed to winning in recent years for sure)--just pointing out that having 10 games doesn't necessarily make a team better/more successful.

I would have to disagree, I think having an extra week to rest guys is tremendous to a program. You never know with injuries throughout the season and I think that having a week to sit guys and have them concentrate on their studies is a big boost to team morale for the weeks to come. Now as far as success, that depends on the program as a whole and how far they are committed to football or athletics in general.

madzillagd

Quote from: olddog on September 12, 2013, 01:08:31 PM
I guess CLU does not stream their games anymore? any info CLU fans ?

the link is at the bottom of that preview article...


here's the video area - http://clusports.com/video/

olddog

Maz, thanks for the link, but is show no event scheduled for video
Less than two more years of Gavin.

dahlby

The CLU website under football schedule has a direct link. CLU does a great job with the announcing and streaming.

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olddog

I emailed CLU and they will be streaming the game. They have been having some technical difficulties...Good news
Less than two more years of Gavin.

Hemingway13

olddog


Just in case you have not seen Dahlby's post on Pick'em Board, you still need to make 3 more picks for this week. Cheers,
Hem
"Courage is grace under pressure." Ernest Hemingway

Hemingway13

olddog


Just in case you have not seen Dahlby's post on Pick'em Board, you still need to make 3 more picks for this week. Cheers,
Hem




 


"Courage is grace under pressure." Ernest Hemingway