FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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dahlby

I will be on CU campus tonight. Never been a believer in bulletin board material. Hope Liam is at the game tonight. He must not be a Public Relations major! Wonder what he was thinking.

olddog

I think Chapman will be a contender and they return many skill guys, along with their stud injured running back. They are dangerous, but UR gets them at home and I think UR will be better than last year, if the new d line steps up. How good UR will be next year will come down to linemen. They only have one experience d linemen back and the other two are talented but need to get it done. The O-line has four guys back plus a couple freshman from last year that were pushing the starters at the end of the year. If that collective group can show improvement, Mr. Russell  our qb will have a nice year. Both our RBs are back too. I miss football season
Less than two more years of Gavin.

olddog

So the top three teams next year schedules are out.

UR has the toughest preseason with MHB and Linfield. I am not sure what order I would put Chapman and the Regals....I am leaning toward Chapman being second with Linfield and Whitworth, over the Regals at third with Willamete and PLU. PLU looses some good linemen. Close call on that one, I do not have good grasp on Whitworth or Willamete.
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olddog

Since the NW boys are so concerned. UR starts spring ball next week. New strength coach has emphasized more lower body and perfect form, so that will be interesting how it translates next season. Lastly on the weather from it should be in the mid 80's when the boys work out. I have not heard a work how recruiting is going. I heard UR wont even look at kids unless the ACT is a 23, so that will be interesting. The school is trying to raise the bar.
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wildcat11


olddog

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olddog

UR spring football has started. The NCAA needs to change a few rules, one being the use of blocking pads. Blocking pads can not be used in D3 football drills. That is just dumb, I think going live with out pads is worse and I am sure a lot teams end up doing it.

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wildcat11

Quote from: olddog on March 20, 2014, 03:55:00 PM
UR spring football has started. The NCAA needs to change a few rules, one being the use of blocking pads. Blocking pads can not be used in D3 football drills. That is just dumb, I think going live with out pads is worse and I am sure a lot team end up doing it.

+1 olddog.  This needs to be changed, IMO.

RFB


olddog

The team is going to Ronald McDonalds camp good times this weekend (on the back side of Big Bear for those not from the area)  all set up by the players. Bulldog are awesome. Here is a video made by the players last year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ov5wzrk8Tc
Less than two more years of Gavin.

olddog

Have any of you SCIAC fans been following coach Mac's blog. I have met him a few times and he is a good guy. Many ex-players swear by the guy and I have told high school players to check out his program. However I got a chuckle out of his post lately. I get the negative recruiting is not cool, but his school is known for the home of transfers in the SCIAC and many have had a huge hand in his success of his program. He said 28 out of the 80 all conference players since 2007. So 35% of his best players are transfers. I would say that is very high, given the constraints for transferring into most SCIAC schools it would be perceived as very high. So I wonder how many starters are transfer, I would be willing to be 35% range too, anything over 20%  (three or four guys) would be high in my opinion. Funny how one has a different perception of their program. I get it you compete, that is great and wonderful message for a kid to hang in there.

I can not recall one All conference player that has transferred into Redlands. I will have to go back and look and if I find one I will post, there has to be one since 2007 just can recall any significant tranfers. I know at UR, transfer financial aid is not as good as freshman enrollees.

So yes coach Mac from the perception of the SCIAC schools the Regals are the kings of transfers...own it ...not that big of deal when it is the truth....while we are on the subject CLU has many recruiting advantages over the SCIAC schools of which coach Mac brings up in his sales job too... less expensive (UC matching program) , easier to get into than UR, Chapman, Oxy, CLU, CT, and PP,  and better transfer packages...Truth hurts sometimes ...own it


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olddog

I went back and looked at last season on UR roster, UR has one significant player transfer in from PLU, who started the season our third string at QB but made all conference. UR has a back up d linemen from a jc too.
I did a quick scan of CLU's roster and 35 tranfers...so 35% of the team is transfers, where UR is less than 5%...Not a big deal just own the truth coach Mac. It is a free country and transfers should be allowed to move in, so I plenty ok with it. Now if a kid does not want to take a chance after putting in his time, then some D1 bounce back shows up I get that thought process too. What Mac forgets is D3 players are not getting paid to play on a team, like D1. They want to play football and to pay all that money to go your school then get pushed out is a real concern...Just own it coach...Different minds set when one is paying versus getting paid like you do. These kids know they are not going pro, but want to play..
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wildcat11

I think I need to stick up for Coach Mac a little here.  I went over a read his blog and I think he "owns" the fact that transfers make a difference at CLU and he's done that in the past as well.  I don't think he's distanced himself from transfers and the impact they've made at CalLu.  I believe his point is that he feels that CLU has built a culture of competition and playing time isn't determined by how long you've been in the program but based on who his staff feels will give them the best chance to win.  It that means it's a freshman or a transfer then so be it. 

As long as he's upfront about this in the recruiting process then I don't have any issue with it.   I think negative recruiting sucks and if others are tearing down CLU to make their program look better then that's their problem and not CLU's. 



olddog

Cat,

My sons went through the same process. They all say similar things, the best play blah blah blah...

If I was recruiting at UR I would highlight we build from within versus what some of our competition tend to do, CLU is not alone Whittier and La Verne have very open doors too. I think pointing out facts to a young person is fair. Pointing out truths is fair. So when Cal Lu points out Oxy is a different culture than other schools is that negative recruiting, not really to me. It tells you to look into what he was talking about, due your own due diligence. Negative recruiting is stretching and bending truths to me for your purposes. I agree it is wrong.
His premise of being upset is what a kid said ? I am sure it was filtered message from the kid. When what he was told is fact, perceptions amaze me.
Fact is if you go to Cal Lu, you have the highest probability in the SCIAC of having some transfer take your job...it is true so don't get upset. In short I think he wanted to play both ends of the stick and the truth does not allow it.

Less than two more years of Gavin.

wildcat11

Quote from: olddog on April 30, 2014, 03:01:00 PM
Fact is if you go to Cal Lu, you have the highest probability in the SCIAC of having some transfer take your job...it is true so don't get upset. In short I think he wanted to play both ends of the stick and the truth does not allow it.

I'm not disputing the "highest probability" statement.  That's factual.  This is where I think he's getting ticked is this line from recruits (filtered or not) "What these adult recruiters in our conference are telling high school prospects (that they will never play here because of transfers) is an attempt to scare 17 and 18 year-old kids with misinformation."

As you have even stated, that line from other SCIAC coaches isn't true at CLU.  Do they have a number of transfers? Yes.  Does every kid that signs on for 4 years get replaced by a transfer?  No, not even close to being true. 

I'm just trying to see it from his side a little.  I'm not a CLU fan but I like Coach Mac.  I've enjoyed Linfield playing CLU (and owning CLU) over the past 5 years and can understand how it can be frustrating at the misinformation others spread about your program you work hard for.