FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OCguy]

Chapman needs to schedule a 10th game next year in anticipation of Oxy falling off the map. Playing 8 games is just depressing.

[OxyBob]

Dropping the kid off at Oxy. I'm watching practice while she moves in. The numbers look REALLY low.

Not surprising. If you had options as a potential player, would you go there with the program in its current state?

I agree. What bothers me is I could a dozen fewer than what they told the alums they had.

Each of the pictures on the Oxy football Twitter feed only show 20 or so players.

https://twitter.com/oxy_football/status/1030902133967663105

https://twitter.com/oxy_football/status/1030145785734692864

https://twitter.com/oxy_football/status/1029433418688299008

https://twitter.com/coachcoleman_/status/1029177537442676736

OxyBob

[OxyBob]

Dropping the kid off at Oxy. I'm watching practice while she moves in. The numbers look REALLY low.

Here's another picture from practice which shows only a few players.

https://twitter.com/DHSoto/status/1028678264741552129

OxyBob

[10Freeway]

There is no way Oxy makes it to the Redlands game.  They have 15 total lineman listed, 9 are listed as OL.  Luckily, teams have scheduled ten games in the SCIAC.  Chapman scheduled Oxy for homecoming, I would reschedule if I was Chapman.

http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2018-19/roster

[RFB]

Dropping the kid off at Oxy. I'm watching practice while she moves in. The numbers look REALLY low.

Not surprising. If you had options as a potential player, would you go there with the program in its current state?

I agree. What bothers me is I could a dozen fewer than what they told the alums they had.

Not good at all. I feel bad for you Oxy alums, especially those who helped fund raise to save the program. I just don't see how they can complete a full season with so thin of a roster. Only way is to go old school (both ways) and hope the injury bug does not bite them. If they can get through the season, regardless of the outcome in the win column, they can say it was a success. They then have a foundation to recruit off of and can build the numbers. 

[OxyBob]

There is no way Oxy makes it to the Redlands game.  They have 15 total lineman listed, 9 are listed as OL. 

In 2017, Oxy had 47 players on its roster. http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2017-18/roster

In 2018, Oxy has 47 players on its roster. http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2018-19/roster

According to this baloney on the Oxy alumni website:

President Veitch updated the trustees earlier today with some impressive numbers. On the recruiting front, Coach Cushman and his staff have done an amazing job recruiting in the wake of the canceled season. They project an incoming class of 25-30 and a fall roster of around 55-58 players. On the fundraising side, Jeff and I and the rest of the Football Action Team are so proud of how you all rallied. We exceeded our first-year goal of $285,000 and have raised 85% of the four-year, $1.14-million target, giving President Veitch full confidence to go forward.

So after all of the recruiting, and all of the fundraising, and all of the brave words about saving Oxy football, the HC and his staff managed to increase the football roster by zero players. What an amazing job of recruiting! So what changed from last season? Nothing. A complete waste of time and energy and money.

OxyBob

[OCguy]

Either Oxy has promised something to Chapman to get the Athletic department comfortable or Chapman really has no idea about the struggles going on at Oxy. Either way they need to reconsider. looks like Oxy is done.

[RFB]

There is no way Oxy makes it to the Redlands game.  They have 15 total lineman listed, 9 are listed as OL. 

In 2017, Oxy had 47 players on its roster. http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2017-18/roster

In 2018, Oxy has 47 players on its roster. http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2018-19/roster

According to this baloney on the Oxy alumni website:

President Veitch updated the trustees earlier today with some impressive numbers. On the recruiting front, Coach Cushman and his staff have done an amazing job recruiting in the wake of the canceled season. They project an incoming class of 25-30 and a fall roster of around 55-58 players. On the fundraising side, Jeff and I and the rest of the Football Action Team are so proud of how you all rallied. We exceeded our first-year goal of $285,000 and have raised 85% of the four-year, $1.14-million target, giving President Veitch full confidence to go forward.

So after all of the recruiting, and all of the fundraising, and all of the brave words about saving Oxy football, the HC and his staff managed to increase the football roster by zero players. What an amazing job of recruiting! So what changed from last season? Nothing. A complete waste of time and energy and money.

OxyBob

Only two QB's on the roster as well, and one is a Freshman. Didn't the administration siphon off some of the money raised for other sports?

[jknezek]

There is no way Oxy makes it to the Redlands game.  They have 15 total lineman listed, 9 are listed as OL. 

In 2017, Oxy had 47 players on its roster. http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2017-18/roster

In 2018, Oxy has 47 players on its roster. http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2018-19/roster

According to this baloney on the Oxy alumni website:

President Veitch updated the trustees earlier today with some impressive numbers. On the recruiting front, Coach Cushman and his staff have done an amazing job recruiting in the wake of the canceled season. They project an incoming class of 25-30 and a fall roster of around 55-58 players. On the fundraising side, Jeff and I and the rest of the Football Action Team are so proud of how you all rallied. We exceeded our first-year goal of $285,000 and have raised 85% of the four-year, $1.14-million target, giving President Veitch full confidence to go forward.

So after all of the recruiting, and all of the fundraising, and all of the brave words about saving Oxy football, the HC and his staff managed to increase the football roster by zero players. What an amazing job of recruiting! So what changed from last season? Nothing. A complete waste of time and energy and money.

OxyBob

Frankly, if Oxy has the same numbers as last year, and has any significant number of freshman, I'd call it a decent recruiting job. Recruiting into that headwind is a nightmare. Cancelled season, all but declared the team dead, put out a conditional fundraising pitch that wasn't completed until well after recruiting season ended... there was literally nothing that the head coach could say to a recruit that would give him confidence the program will be there for this year, let alone the next 4 years.

What do you expect given the bleak outlook? If you can't even tell the recruits you are going to field a team, it's not real likely you are going to get very many. With the ongoing wishy-washy nature of support, it's not going to get any easier, either. Give the HC some credit for getting enough bodies to start a season that no one was sure they were actually going to play.

[Gray Fox]

There is no way Oxy makes it to the Redlands game.  They have 15 total lineman listed, 9 are listed as OL. 

In 2017, Oxy had 47 players on its roster. http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2017-18/roster

In 2018, Oxy has 47 players on its roster. http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2018-19/roster

According to this baloney on the Oxy alumni website:

President Veitch updated the trustees earlier today with some impressive numbers. On the recruiting front, Coach Cushman and his staff have done an amazing job recruiting in the wake of the canceled season. They project an incoming class of 25-30 and a fall roster of around 55-58 players. On the fundraising side, Jeff and I and the rest of the Football Action Team are so proud of how you all rallied. We exceeded our first-year goal of $285,000 and have raised 85% of the four-year, $1.14-million target, giving President Veitch full confidence to go forward.

So after all of the recruiting, and all of the fundraising, and all of the brave words about saving Oxy football, the HC and his staff managed to increase the football roster by zero players. What an amazing job of recruiting! So what changed from last season? Nothing. A complete waste of time and energy and money.

OxyBob

Only two QB's on the roster as well, and one is a Freshman. Didn't the administration siphon off some of the money raised for other sports?

I saw two QB's, but they were a soph and a junior.
They certainly recruited from many states.

[RFB]

There is no way Oxy makes it to the Redlands game.  They have 15 total lineman listed, 9 are listed as OL. 

In 2017, Oxy had 47 players on its roster. http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2017-18/roster

In 2018, Oxy has 47 players on its roster. http://www.oxyathletics.com/sports/fball/2018-19/roster

According to this baloney on the Oxy alumni website:

President Veitch updated the trustees earlier today with some impressive numbers. On the recruiting front, Coach Cushman and his staff have done an amazing job recruiting in the wake of the canceled season. They project an incoming class of 25-30 and a fall roster of around 55-58 players. On the fundraising side, Jeff and I and the rest of the Football Action Team are so proud of how you all rallied. We exceeded our first-year goal of $285,000 and have raised 85% of the four-year, $1.14-million target, giving President Veitch full confidence to go forward.

So after all of the recruiting, and all of the fundraising, and all of the brave words about saving Oxy football, the HC and his staff managed to increase the football roster by zero players. What an amazing job of recruiting! So what changed from last season? Nothing. A complete waste of time and energy and money.

OxyBob

Frankly, if Oxy has the same numbers as last year, and has any significant number of freshman, I'd call it a decent recruiting job. Recruiting into that headwind is a nightmare. Cancelled season, all but declared the team dead, put out a conditional fundraising pitch that wasn't completed until well after recruiting season ended... there was literally nothing that the head coach could say to a recruit that would give him confidence the program will be there for this year, let alone the next 4 years.

What do you expect given the bleak outlook? If you can't even tell the recruits you are going to field a team, it's not real likely you are going to get very many. With the ongoing wishy-washy nature of support, it's not going to get any easier, either. Give the HC some credit for getting enough bodies to start a season that no one was sure they were actually going to play.

That's a fair assessment. You're seeing responses from individuals (myself included) whom have followed the SCIAC for decades, and many are Oxy alums and played ball. The angst is against the university leadership who have failed to take ownership of decimating a proud and highly successful DIII football program with a strong legacy. There seems to be other motives behind the scenes, and the fans here see through the BS. I'm hopeful good intentions are in place, because Oxy folding their program would be a grave injustice.

[jknezek]

That's a fair assessment. You're seeing responses from individuals (myself included) whom have followed the SCIAC for decades, and many are Oxy alums and played ball. The angst is against the university leadership who have failed to take ownership of decimating a proud and highly successful DIII football program with a strong legacy. There seems to be other motives behind the scenes, and the fans here see through the BS. I'm hopeful good intentions are in place, because Oxy folding their program would be a grave injustice.

Yeah. I get that. And I feel for them. What's going on at Oxy is nasty. I just think complaining about recruiting, which is the responsibility of the coach, was the wrong place to point fingers. He didn't have much to work with. I'm all in favor of pointing the finger, and I'll let you guys choose which finger to point, at the right people.

[MUC57]

Oxy fans

Excuse an outsider jumping in here.
I don't know about all the problems at Oxy but I do know there are a few. As a football lover, especially at the Dlll level, I hope you keep your program going. Although I didn't go to Mount Union for the football program ( good thing, because they stunk in my day) I think it really adds to the overall education of our young people. I'm of course talking about the football players!
Football allows interaction with other schools in our area . It can be a means of bringing in more students to our college! It can also mean, as in the case of Mount Union, alums let loose with some money for " dear old alma mater"!.
I don't know if any of this makes sense. I just hope Oxy gets it going. ☠🏈

[Purple Heys]

I think if Mike Neal can turn around Whittier to a perennially .500 or better team, then he's worked a minor miracle.  I am sure he has his sites set a bit higher than that. 

Neal has a tough job ahead. His first goal should be to get WC's first win since they beat La Verne in October, 2014. 30 straight losses since. As for loftier goals, the Poets haven't been .500 since 2000, and haven't had a winning season since 1998.

OxyBob

Totally agree as noted in my previous parsed post.  Any goal more than winning 1 game this year, is far fetched...win 1 game, any game - a win over Oxy counts as a W.  I would like to see the Points Against magnitude reduced as well.

This is most likely a learning to crawl year for the Poets.

[OxyBob]

Didn't the administration siphon off some of the money raised for other sports?

Yes. According to the Oxy Alumni website, of the $285,000 raised $57,000 "will address the athletic department's greatest needs," whatever that means. The rest -- $228,000 -- goes to the football team.

[T]he fans here see through the BS.

This year's roster has the same number of players as last year's roster. As a former player you know that there will be attrition. Some players will quit for various reasons. For instance, when the freshmen see how little support they'll get from the Oxy students and the administration, they'll say screw it and walk away. Some players will be injured, and there's also the concussion issue, which the college president raised as a concern for continuing to field a team. In no time Oxy will be severely undermanned and right back where it was last season.

Prediction: Oxy may play the exhibition game against the Mexican team CETYS Mexicali on September 1, but they won't make it past the next game against Willamette on September 15, if they even make it that far.

OxyBob