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10Freeway

#22410
Sign of the times at UR.  Can't hire a full time Offensive Coordinator, but can spend 72k to hire a women's flag football coach. 

Bulldog football has won 3 games, s v La Verne and 1 v Cal Lu.  The stats are appalling on the season.  Averaging 14 points a game is completely unacceptable.  Defense has managed to only give up 21 points a game.
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RFBredux

Quote from: 10Freeway on November 11, 2024, 11:40:41 AMSign of the times at UR.  Can't hire a full time Offensive Coordinator, but can spend 72k to hire a women's flag football coach. 

Bulldog football has won 3 games, s v La Verne and 1 v Cal Lu.  The stats are appalling on the season.  Averaging 14 points a game is completely unacceptable.  Defense has managed to only give up 21 points a game.

Offensive coordinator hire or not, Jim Good leads and is responsible for the offense. Plenty of head coaches still coordinate the offense at all levels of football.

His offense has been bad for years. Predictable, devoid of creativity, and can't recruit proper personnel to even run it. He's not even the best football coach in Redlands. Think about that fact for a second.

olddog

So lets say Good does get an OC, I know in regards to other issue off the field and supporting the players he had done a very good job. This is why I think he should get a shot having an OC...
Less than two more years of Gavin.

olddog

Coordinators in SCIAC

Chapman, OC and DC, old as dirt but good guys
CMS, OC and DC ...dont know them
CLU, website so crappy does not say they have one, Dr D ? Under Mac he had both
PP, OC and does not say HC is DC, but in the past, PP help us out
LV, OC and DC, yikes ....their recruiting makes zero sense to me
UR, DC, and HC is the OC ...
Less than two more years of Gavin.

RFBredux

Quote from: olddog on November 11, 2024, 07:35:26 PMSo lets say Good does get an OC, I know in regards to other issue off the field and supporting the players he had done a very good job. This is why I think he should get a shot having an OC...

His record as a Head Coach is like 28-50 overall or something like that. If Redlands wants to embrace mediocrity, they should keep Jim Good.

Dr. Doolittle

Quote from: olddog on November 11, 2024, 07:43:06 PMCoordinators in SCIAC

Chapman, OC and DC, old as dirt but good guys
CMS, OC and DC ...dont know them
CLU, website so crappy does not say they have one, Dr D ? Under Mac he had both
PP, OC and does not say HC is DC, but in the past, PP help us out
LV, OC and DC, yikes ....their recruiting makes zero sense to me
UR, DC, and HC is the OC ...
Under Mac, they had an O Coordinator (Lugo) and a Defensive Coordinator. 


10Freeway

Agree that him having an OC would not have led the program to more wins.  My comment was more about the state of UR and Good as a HC.  The school can find money for a flag football coach, but not for an OC??  Either Good did not want an OC  and he lied to all the alumni about UR not giving him money for it, or he was afraid to stick up for the program and the players.  IF those are true, football is not in a Good place at UR.  Sad state of affairs.
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olddog

Good wants an OC, he puts in more time than Maynard ever did due to not having one. Freeway is correct in regards to how committed is the school to football?. Firing Maynard killed their fund raising and other directions they are taking the school, all have affected athletic support from alumni. All this is not in Good's control. He is a solid guy, knows what he needs, an OC and few good O linemen. Our defense is always top one or two in the league. I know they are actively recruiting linemen.

I do agree with RBF, if what we will keep getting is this same 6' 300 pound kid that does not move that well, we should go against the grain and run power football, close the splits and T it up.
Less than two more years of Gavin.

10Freeway

#22418
Good at Hamline, 10-30, 3-29 in the MIAC.  He is 20- 19 overall and 17-10 in the SCIAC at Redlands.  He won in 21 with pissed off kids that Maynard was fired.  The 3 years after he is 12-17 overall and 11-10 in the SCIAC.  As a head coach overall, he is 30- 49 and 20- 39 in the given conference.  Those are not the standard Bulldog football is about.

Also, the new AD will be a Vice President in charger of Intercollegiate Athletics and is finally it's own department.  Athletics used to be under student life.  Hopefully, this means a renewed commitment to athletics at UR.  The salary range is 175-200k. 
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  The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence

Retired Old Rat

Hamline is not a good (pun intended) point of reference. They've been terrible for a long time. Their only success in "recent" years was in the 80's under Dick Tressell (Jim's brother). He had several 2-8 years. 
   
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wildcat11

I don't know what you guys are talking about.  Jim Good is awesome and I hope he stays as the Redlands HC for the next 20 years.

that guy 31

Football is a results oriented business. Either you are getting it done or you are not. Jim Good is not getting it done up to any reasonable standard for Bulldog Football. Once you get to the step where you are trying to lay blame for why it's not getting done, you have gone too far.

Bulldog Football was in a really good spot pre Maynard's firing. They were consistently competitive for league titles and the 2019 team was one of their best ever teams.

Since the 2021 season (which was still MM's guys) the program has fallen way off. Cast blame wherever you choose, but Jim Good has had 3 years to fix it and it has gotten worse, not better. I refuse to be gaslighted into believing that Redlands should be losing over and over to the Claremont Colleges and there is simply nothing that can be done about it. Try someone else.

RFBredux

Quote from: wildcat11 on November 15, 2024, 02:41:21 PMI don't know what you guys are talking about.  Jim Good is awesome and I hope he stays as the Redlands HC for the next 20 years.

Only thing missing now is OxyBob coming out of retirement for an off the top rope comment.

RFBredux

Quote from: that guy 31 on November 15, 2024, 02:52:32 PMFootball is a results oriented business. Either you are getting it done or you are not. Jim Good is not getting it done up to any reasonable standard for Bulldog Football. Once you get to the step where you are trying to lay blame for why it's not getting done, you have gone too far.

Bulldog Football was in a really good spot pre Maynard's firing. They were consistently competitive for league titles and the 2019 team was one of their best ever teams.

Since the 2021 season (which was still MM's guys) the program has fallen way off. Cast blame wherever you choose, but Jim Good has had 3 years to fix it and it has gotten worse, not better. I refuse to be gaslighted into believing that Redlands should be losing over and over to the Claremont Colleges and there is simply nothing that can be done about it. Try someone else.

Nail meet head

CalCat

Quote from: RFBredux on November 15, 2024, 03:27:13 PM
Quote from: wildcat11 on November 15, 2024, 02:41:21 PMI don't know what you guys are talking about.  Jim Good is awesome and I hope he stays as the Redlands HC for the next 20 years.

Only thing missing now is OxyBob coming out of retirement for an off the top rope comment.

Or maybe Snoop Dog weighing in.
CalCat