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[DawgFan1]

Dawg fan.....what do you mean?  Maynard wont change qb's or the OC ?? No matter what?

I dont think he wants to keep losing. 

The OC. Remember Watchman's evaluation of last week's game. He is right. The problem is the OC. The plays are as simple, easy to defend and predictable as a Pop Warner team. You can put in 50 QBs and it won't make a damn bit of difference because they aren't the cause of the problem. O'Boyle is not qualified to be an OC and this was evident last year. This is what I mean...Maynard  won't make this change.

DGD, you are new to Redlands. I am making these comments because I watched this situation all last year. It is one thing to be tactful and not point fingers on a forum like this, but since Watchman brought this out in the open, it is a fact. Redlands will never have the success we all want for them unless a qualified OC in put in control with an  excellent grasp of the offensive game and a creative mind.

OK, I said it and it is now out of my system!!!

[dawgs go deep]

Dawgfan, I read your post and responded , then my post came in above yours on the board.  Dont know how that hapened.

Its ok to have an opinion about a coach and express it.  I think he needs to have faith in his players before he can be more creative in his play calling.  I mean, neither of us knows what is really going on, if receivers are runing the wrong  or lousy routes or if the qb's are making the wrong reads....if  coach doent believe in a players ability, he will call much less sopisticated plays which probably has a snowball effect, downhill.  Like you say, simple plays,easy to defend. 

[rockcat]

I agree with you Sabre....but maybe the coaches dont want to burn a year this year...as you know...if they hold him out of competition then he can run the show for 4 full years.  I know the kid has talent...but its rare for a freshman with any program to lead the team.  We will see as time goes by...but I would hate for them to put him in week 6, and waste an entire year!

Unfortunately there is no reason to save eligibility because there are no longer redshirts in D3 (with the exception of the medical variety).  That may have been posted earlier but just in case....

[dawgs go deep]

So how do players get a fifth year?  Do they sit out for a year and still go to school?  I think I read that if they do they cannot pactice with the team, is that right rockcat?

[Pat Coleman]

http://www.d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=General&id=29

[DawgFan1]

Its ok to have an opinion about a coach and express it.  I think he needs to have faith in his players before he can be more creative in his play calling.  I mean, neither of us knows what is really going on,

Let me explain further as this is what several of us (who sit together at the games) saw last year and this is what appears to be happening this year. Look at both games. The first quarter Redlands had success, ie, they moved the ball. As the game progressed, the success diminished until the 4th quarter, where it became a disaster. The plays are simple and very few; a few running plays and a few passing plays, repeated over and over again. The defense catches on and shuts down the offense (they also recognize the pass patterns developing and are there before the receiver). Watch for the play calling pattern. Run up the middle first and second down, then pass on third and long (BLITZ HEAVEN). It RARELY changes. Also look at the variation of plays from the opposition. Whitworth appeared to have excellent play selection (I cannot comment on Trinity as we only listened to the radio broadcast).

Generally a team adjusts during half time and starts the second half with a new scheme...not Redlands.: same play selection and pattern.

Mike Maynard is an outstanding coach and I cannot understand why he tolerates this OC. He either doesn't see it or his hands are tied to make a change.

DGD, I am afraid this has very little to do with player confidence. They have good players (what...69 new recruits).  What they have is an OC caught in the "Peter Principle"!

[Sabretooth Tiger]

OxyBob:  Congratulations on demonstrating fine Google sleuthing techniques . . .

I'll give you bonus points for (1) identifying my son's future father in law and (2) identifying any senior SCIAC qbs with eligibility remaining after this year.

As for DGD, who gives a rip whether he is the future father in law, long lost uncle, twin separated at birth, sperm donor, or kissing cousin . . . while he can be over the top sometimes, he deserves props for igniting this board last summer and for making it a much more interesting place to visit and in which to participate. 

Frankly, I think that his horrific typing and spelling is much more abuse worthy than his boosterism . . . so let's cut some slack and keep the banter on the right track . . . if the glove don't fit, you must acquit . . .

besides, I'm looking forward to the pre-October 7 chirping between Tiger and Dawg nations

[dawgs go deep]

tooth,

I admit Im a lousy typer and an even worse at spelling.  Im way to importnat to proof read!   Thanks for the kind words.   How did you know I was a sperm donor?  Did you google me?

[scandihoovian]

Now--I want to learn more about the Kingsmen.  My worry for CLU is this--two weak NWC teams, two come from behind wins--might it be that the CLU offense is ok but D is a big question mark? 

Not to be accused of speaking out of both sides of my mouth.  Oxy D had problems with CC, however, they had a couple good wr's and a good QB.  In all honesty did Puget and Willamette bring the same to the table?  If so then I am looking forward to an exciting match up between CLU and Oxy

I think the comebacks have been necessitated more by the offense taking a little time to get untracked than the failings of the defense - which has pitched two second half shutouts.

As I mentioned previously, the bye week comes at a good time for the Kingsmen to fine tune the offense...

[DawgFan1]

Dawgfan, I read your post and responded , then my post came in above yours on the board.  Dont know how that hapened.

...if receivers are runing the wrong  or lousy routes or if the qb's are making the wrong reads....

DGD: You got me thinking so here is more info for you. As regards the QBs making the wrong reads and/or throwing the ball away, there is no excuse for an interception due to a dumb decision by the QB. However, if the choices are limited, the team faulters, and the QB has a strong desire to make something happen, is it not possible he may take a chance and try to force a play to get something going?

Lets look at the QB styles. Selway appears to be the scrambling type. He will take off running if a receiver is not open on a first glace. Nick Brown was like this last year. However, his constant running of the ball is what got him hurt as he was tackled. Saras, on the other hand, seems to stay with the pass play until the last minute and then gets hammered. This maybe good for the team but it isn't very healthy for Saras and hopefully his body can survive the season. 

In any event, I think the two QBs are good and more than capable of successfully
leading the team. However, they must have to tools to work with and this is where the coaching comes into play.

By the way, for all the Redlands' fans on this board, I think it is great that we remain anonymous during thew season so we can express our views without fear of hurting someone's feelings. However, we should arrange to meet during the last home game with Cal Lutheran and maybe go have a beer. It would be fun to meet everyone, find out who we are, and then think back to all the "posts"...should be a real HOOT.

[Gray Fox]

tooth,

How did you know I was a sperm donor? 

A very creative way to read girly magazines and other pleasures.

The Redlands success in the first quarter was mostly the result of Trinity mistakes.

[Ron Boerger]

And I'll say it again:  it's hard to travel as far as Redlands and Trinity do to play each other and have a good game when you get there. 

As evidence, here is the SCIAC - Trinity series since 2002:

2002:  @Trinity 66, Pomona-Pitzer 14
2003:  @Pomona-Pitzer 35, Trinity 31
2004:  @Trinity 51, Redlands 27
2005:  Trinity 28, @Redlands 25
2006:  @Trinity 35, Redlands 10

Notice how the away team struggles every time.   Travelling over a thousand miles to play a game early in the season is simply not something Division III kids are used to doing; witness Mary Hardin-Baylor's loss at Christopher Newport in Week 2 as another example.  I know Redlands fans aren't happy with a 6 INT performance, but give the kids a break.  They're the ones who have to perform, after all. 

[dawgs go deep]

Dawgs fan........again, I dont disagree with what you are saying.  Like  I said before we really dont know what is happening, we can only form opinions from what we see on the field.  I would love to be a fly on the wall in the coaches offices this week and know what they are saying and thinking.

The two week layoff gives them a chance to experiment and hopefully right the ship.  I sure hope so.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Dawgs fan........again, I dont disagree with wht you are saying.  Like  I said before we really dont know what is happening, we can only form opinions from what we see on the field.  I would love to be a fly on the wall in the coaches offices this week and know what they are saying and thinking.

The two week layoff gives them a chance to experiment nd hopefully right the ship.  I sure hope so.

I remember "experimenting" in college . . . but I never inhaled . . . oh, let's not go there . . . 

[dawgs go deep]

.......and the check is in the mail!