FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[LigerLover]

Well nice job Redlands...but you'll have your hands full when you play OXY ....they have not lost a home game since OCT 11 2003 ( which they should have won -  but fumbled on the 1 yard line and ended up not scoring the wining TD.....ouch....but different team now ) before that they havent lost since OCT. 26 2002 ....

My point to all this rambeling is that every player on the OXY team knows how to handle business at home....The seniors have experienced the most losses at home with only 2...the jrs. 1 loss...the sophs 0...the frosh 0.... should be a GREAT GAME...

OXY enjoy the week off and get ready

[wildcat11]

Liger,

#6 is dang good no matter how you cut it but it looks like SJU leaped over Oxy this week with UMHB dropping to #11.

[RFB]

Listening to the Redlands radio team on Saturday night they mentioned Oxy for many years has found a way to schedule their bye week going into the Redlands game. I would to if I was the coaches at Oxy, Redlands has been the dominant and model program for the SCIAC for fifteen years.

[OxyFan21]

RFB,
Seems to me like a smart thing to do...Having an extra week to prepare for a tough game is always good.

[LigerLover]

Wow...I can't believe OXY is still #6...I guess I don't get the rankings but wtf !!!! how can st johns go from #7 to #5 ? ST JOHNS beat a team that was 2-3, is a bethel win worth that much more than a win against CC ? I am all for giving teams recognition for beating top ranked teams but st johns has not deserved to jump over oxy. period.

[Pat Coleman]

No more or less than what Oxy has done this year to merit being No. 6.

I think some voters were holding back on St. John's waiting for them to play well against someone decent, and that's what they did this week.

[repete]

Pat nailed it, but yes, Bethel in a down year is much stronger than CC is in an up year. Look at CC's schedule -- the only victory is vs. a part-time program and its only close game was against Whittier.

Two of Bethel's three losses are to current top 25 teams and the other team it lost to is 5-0. Also, Oxy's soft schedule doesn't help its case -- when was the last time its non-conference opponents had a winning record?

[scandihoovian]

Liger-

I appreciate your passion for Oxy but you seem to lack a deeper understanding of the dynamics of D3 on the national level.  St. John's has all of the standard advantages when it comes to polls:  historical success, a well respected conference, and a strong schedule.  Right now Oxy is like a team from the old ACC who had a nice run last year and played the Citadel, North Carolina A & T,  and Louisiana Monroe on their non-conference schedule.  I suspect that OXY might have grabbed that #5 spot if they had beaten Whitworth or one of the Texas schools (Hardin Simmons, Trinity, etc.) this year.

[LigerLover]

Hey guys,

you guys are completly right, I do not fully understand the ranking system, however, all of st johns victories are ageainst teams that are 1-3 in the WIAC, 1-3 in the MIAC, 2-3 in the MIAC etc.... basically they are winning against teams with losing records .... isnt that what they are supposed to be doing ? and by that same logic, isn't OXY do what they are supposed to be doing by beating up teams like CC and Chapman...and in league whittier and cal who

[repete]

I think you have to look a little deeper. Yes UWEC is 2-3 -- losses to No. 5 SJU, No. 7 Whitewater and the NAIA No. 2 team St. Francis, which beat a scholarship I-AA school (Indiana State.)

But we'll know by the end of the month if SJU deserves its spot.  We might even find out this Saturday. These things aren't science that's why they change every week.

[RFB]

Oxy's ranking is based on what they did last year in the playoffs. They should not move up for beating CC and L&C. They should be happy to be ranked in the top ten and keep working hard to prove that they deserve the ranking.

[desertcat1]

Ligerlover;

Welcome to the WEST COAST..  and D3...

The J's can play cupcakes and still jump, Qxy WHO? 

Go Cats

50 in 05

[LigerLover]

I guess it doesn't matter anyway...all Oxy needs is a top 6 ranking to get homefield for first couple games of the play-offs...... right?  that is until they play linfiled which hopefully won't happen till west region championship game ! Oxy doesn't really need to jump unless Linfield gets upset, then it would be nice to carry the highest seed in the west

[LigerLover]

ps i think this whole karma thing is getting out of hand.....i think i have provoked some good chat on the SCIAC page and do not feel like i am disrespecting anyone, so whats up with the neagtive karma?

[RFB]

Liger,

Oxy has to get past Redlands first. Last time I checked Redlands was no Colorado College or Lewis & Clark. Redlands dismantled a pretty good Laverne team this past Saturday night. Better to worry about Redlands first before figuring out what playoff seed you deserve.