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wildcat11

New Top 25 poll....

UW-Whitewater jumps Oxy in the polls.  If all hold out in the region (think that Oxy beats Redlands)....it is still looking like Oxy could be the #4 seed and a road dog come playoffs.

Getting close to round the bend for the home strech.....

scandihoovian

WC11-

All the more reason Oxy needs to win on Saturday - at this point they are far from a lock at 8-1...

AnotherJohnnie

Quote from: wildcat11 on October 17, 2005, 02:38:30 PM
New Top 25 poll....

UW-Whitewater jumps Oxy in the polls.  If all hold out in the region (think that Oxy beats Redlands)....it is still looking like Oxy could be the #4 seed and a road dog come playoffs.

Getting close to round the bend for the home strech.....

The polls won't dictate seeding.  Also, Oxy could get the 2 seed and be at Linfield in the first round if the number of flights can be decreased by doing so.  Kind of a lousy deal for Oxy, but quite possible.

wildcat11

Quote from: AnotherJohnnie on October 17, 2005, 04:19:31 PM
The polls won't dictate seeding.  Also, Oxy could get the 2 seed and be at Linfield in the first round if the number of flights can be decreased by doing so.  Kind of a lousy deal for Oxy, but quite possible.

AJ,  Scandihoovian and I both know this.  However, perception can be reality when it comes to the seeding.  The perception right now is that Oxy is the 4th best team in the West Right now.  If things hold out, there could be a better than strong chance that Oxy could be seeing a 4th seed.

RFB

Liger,

I never said a word about Oxy's win over Whittier. My criticism has been about Oxy's lack of scheduling quality opponents in non-conference play. Whittier has improved and they almost pulled one out against Redlands. This weekend is a big game, it should be fun.

Tom Brady

Brown-  Thanks for the props but I really had no idea what would happen with that ULV/Cal Lu game.  I was actually pretty shocked when I saw the score due to the fact that La Verne seemed to play some good games earlier.  I was shocked, but very happy.  Looks like the game at OXY should be a good one.  Lets just hope whoever wins, the posters can come on here with a little respect for the others on the board ;D

twoducks

I really don't want to bash the Leos but it appeared to me that the LaVerne bunch were tiring by the middle of the 3rd quarter, they did not seem to be playing with the same intensity that they had in the first half.  Cal Lu blew 2 or 3 chances to score early and let them hang around, they need to improve on that part but the D stepped up very well and there were a couple young kids, (freshman) who showed they can play ball with the seniors, that was the best part of the win was seeing these youg kids realize they belong on the field.

scandihoovian

I agree, twoducks, it was great to see some of the young kids start to step it up.  I especially enjoyed the great diving interception that freshman d-lineman (Calderon?) made in the second half.

I have heard that one of the options in the SCIAC tie-breaker involves sending the team that has not been to the post-season in the longest amount of time.  The first option is head to head competition - but a three way tie (where team a beats team b who beats team c who beats team a) renders this option useless.  Anybody else know more?

Browneagle64

Brady- I think Cal Lu will end up in 2nd place in the league.
I must agree with you about this weekends game though. I will definately give anyone who won the game respect. All I would point out is that the team that was better prepaired, better coached and ready for the big did everything that they needed to win the game. I've seen the tigers do this. Hopefully, for those that don't agree with Oxy wininng will change their views and understand that this is a great team that is looking to make further changes around the league and hopefully even further along the playoffs. But, let's take this one game at a time. And all i am worry about is this saturday at the Rock. Come join us at the Rock and witness the tigers prove what they are setting out to do on that awesome field turf.


Go tigers
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamppost: for support, not illumination."--Vin Scully

"I don't really care," he said with an impish smile. "It's all about the Dodgers. I don't think anyone really watches hockey anymore.".....Tiger Woods

twoducks

One last thing that I noticed about the LaVerne/Cal Lu game was that the Leos #1 back, atleast I think he was aganist Redlands when they played was absent except for a few plays or series.  I think it was the Anello kid,  but may have been dinged up.  He ran well the few times I saw him but all and all he wasn't much of a factor. LaVerne was tuff the first few series but after that they kinda seem to stall, Cal Lu fumbeled a couple times and missed 2 field goals early, they need to elimante that and the penalties to get it done the whole game.

Browneagle64

Scandi-- Quick question.... DO you really believe that Redlands has a chance to go over to Oxy and beat the Tigers? If so, why do you believe this????? Just want to know your opinion.

Well, i hope both Oxy and redlands are both gearing up for this saturday. I also hope the other schools as well. I am pretty sure who ever whitter is playing this weekend, they will end up with a victory. WHitter, will end up having a far better season then it has in the past. So good luck to them.

Anywho's, the Game to watch this weekend will obviously be at the Rock. Both teams should be about ready and prepaired. The bye week of Oxy probabily will benefit them the most. I am sure the Tigers spent that week doing extra work, working out even more and watching more video. Just anything that would help them dismantle the dawgs. THese past five years between both teams, the games have lead up to go match ups. Last, years game at Runner stadium will indeed even more inspire the tigers to do even more better.

Two ducks--- i agree with what you saw from the Leo's. I know that i was hoping that they would have made this game a bit close. But appearently, they just fell apart and couldn't get it done. Hopefully, they can rebound and finish on a good note.


Hey Brady-----Do you happen to remember the Mudd bowl of 02. Oxy-v.s. CalLu?
That game was really a sloppy and muddy game. I still remember that fun game when ever So. Cal has this type of Rain and weather. Does, the field at Cal Lu always end up like that during heavy rain? And, if so if it Rains this weekend, do you think Cal Lu would have another Mudd Bowl. 
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamppost: for support, not illumination."--Vin Scully

"I don't really care," he said with an impish smile. "It's all about the Dodgers. I don't think anyone really watches hockey anymore.".....Tiger Woods

scandihoovian

Browneagle-

I absolutely believe Redlands has a legitimate chance to beat Oxy this weekend, and here's why:
1) Redlands has similar results against common opponents (easy wins over Chapman and close games with Whittier).
2) Redlands has been tested twice by tough teams this year, and came very close to beating a Trinity team that many feel is Oxy's equal.  Oxy won't be the first tough team the Bulldogs play this year.  Oxy, on the other hand, has yet to be tested (Cal Lu could have provided a real test - but the Kingsmen committed too many mistakes early in the game).
3) Redlands always improves a great deal over the course of the season relative to other teams.  My guess is they're hitting peak form right about now.  They're also a program accustomed to success - they won't be shocked if they're winning in the second half.
4) The beauty of college athletics, especially in D3, is that nothing is a lock.

RFB

Scandihoovian,

That was an outstanding post. You know the SCIAC very well. I hope Redlands can get it done, either way it should be a fun game to watch for both Redlands and Oxy fans.

Browneagle64

Scandi---I agree with just a few points that you mentioned. But, overall i disagree.

1) Just because they did have similar results to chapman or whitter doesn't even mean that they should win against Oxy. You need to remember that Redlands had to go into overtime to pull their win. Which lets you know that they weren't getting a lot done for 4 quarters. I seriously would have liked to have seen the poets turn heads by winning in the O.T.
2)I am glad Redlands has been tested by good teams. Which, i obviously did wish oxy had an opponent like Trinity or team yadada......It could have been prepaired them well. Can oxy count in doing well against College of the canyons???..
3)I understand that Redlands tries to improve the second half, but it has not been drastic changes. They do win games , but not by that much. Especially since they are against other SCIAC teams. SO lets be realistic here.
4)Redlands hits there peak, but, not much of a big change overall. THey will give teams challenges, but it comes down to who did much better.
5)Finally, I agree. Anything can happen on any given saturday. Especially in Football in general. It should be a good game. THe team that is better prepaired should win. Not sending games into overtime.


So RFB and to others, hope that you guys can join us at the Rock and wittness a good game 
"Statistics are used much like a drunk uses a lamppost: for support, not illumination."--Vin Scully

"I don't really care," he said with an impish smile. "It's all about the Dodgers. I don't think anyone really watches hockey anymore.".....Tiger Woods

twoducks

RFB, I thought that maybe I would throw in my perspective on the game as it has a big effect on the SCIAC as a whole.  I am a little concerned at QB with Redlands as they seem to bounce back and forth, maybe this is by design, I am not sure but in the stats I thought there was some sharing of the games.  Redlands will have a tough time running on Oxy, I know you have a good kid who has come on the last 2 games but I would be shocked to see that kind of success aganist Bryant and the bunch.  I really feel that the key to getting it done is thru the air, Coleman, Selway and the rest MUST step up big and the O line has to give them time to throw the ball.  I was not impressed with the DB's from Oxy and I think you guys can make a game of it through them.  The other trick is shutting down Collins, the kid plays a good game and can hurt you several ways, get to him, contain him and you got a shot.  The other trump card for you guys is Maynard, he's a good coach and I gotta believe he is gonna bring his best game plan to the table.  From the outside I gotta give the nod to Oxy, but my heart will be pulling for the Dawgs, I gotta agree with Scando, the tuff schedule Redlands plays has to help, and it appears thats why they play it to prepare for the 1 or 2 tuff games in league that show up every year.