FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Gray Fox]

OxyBob,

Biff will be learning X's and O's.  They are much easier than these cheers.

[D O.C.]

Am I missing a follow-up (reporting) on Tejas vs the Nation?  I have not gone to that web site today but the day after the game there was no report.

[Pat Coleman]

The All-Star games are notoriously hard to get real information on so we don't usually bother to follow up. Ever try to find a Shrine Game box score?

Plus, I have D3hoops.com and another project that are higher priority right now.

[Biff0123]

Well thank you guys for the info i greatly appreciate it

[tmerton]

... good proximity to the night life in Pasadena is a plus. 

Ah, the Pasadena night life. I remember moving to Pasadena in 84 and watching the Olympic torch being run through what is now old town.  At the time it was just a bunch of boarded up buildings and the only night life was derelicts peeing in doorways.  My how things have changed.

[CarloRossiLep]

I still know a couple of people that pee in the doorways...

[dawgs57]

Put it this way - Chapman wanted into the SCIAC, and the conference presidents will not bring them in due to historically low academics.

OXY is a good school, I think their campus is weak, but everything else is cool - nobody in the conference has a campus like UR.  Redlands is a good school, but there are a lot of "weirds" on campus with the Johnston Center, but I had a pretty good time there.

Just don't go to Cal Who.

[dawgs57]

Redlands should go back to the 5Wide.  It is easier to athletes who can run and catch and throw than large bruising linemen.  Redlands has historically had more difficulty recruiting linemen.  I think it has to do with a guy is either a 280 lb slob that can't move, or is a 5'10" guy that isn't very strong.  It's difficult to find the right linemen, so a 5 wide offense that puts a premium on quicker linemen who aren't being asked to mash guys will help.

[Browneagle64]

Come on Dawg,
Don't put the who down. It's a fine school in its own right as well.
Are you sure that Chapman was not brought into the SCIAC due to it's past low academics? Please provide support to this claim.

btw, Sorry that their is a lot of weird people that go to Redlands...oops i meant the jonhston center. I guess these people and this center are considered to not be apart of the UOR campus eventhough they are offically considered to be dawgs like yourself.

Wow, all this time i thought Redlands always salivated over the 280lb slob


One last thing, i used to feel that one school was academically more sound and better than another SCIAC in the past, but after taking several classes at another SCIAC school besides Oxy, i can't believe that they both offer the same good education.

[dawgs57]

What kind of evidence do you want?  Or what type would be consideded acceptable?  I don't have a smoking gun, just knowledge of what went on when I was at Redlands.

Before Pomona brought thier football program back into the conference, there was considerable backlash among coaches and athletic directors circa 1999-2001.  PP's lack of participation cost the conference an autobid to the playoffs - keeping an 8-0 OXY team out of the playoffs in 2001 and several Redlands teams out. 

The league coaches drafted a resolution that if PP did not participate in football, that they should not be allowed to participate in ANY sport.  This resolution was ratified by the AD's and was put down by the conference presidents.  From an athletics profile, Chapman would be a great fit.  From a location perspective, Chapman would be a great fit.  From a relative cost of attendance, Chapman would be a great fit.  Why do you think they have not been admitted, despite NUMEROUS applications?  All other things being equal, the academic profile must be called into question.

Cal Lu is a fine school - I was not implying that it is a poor institution.  I simply look at them the way a Broncos fan views the Raiders - any day the Who loses is a good day to be a Bulldog.  And if Cal Who was a place a relative of mine chose to attend, I would wish them well, and cheer like hell for the Dawgs.

And to your comment about the Johnston Center, sure technically they ARE Bulldogs, but I'm sure if they could, they would gladly disassociate themselves from the football team.  Kind of like Quebec and Canada.

[Pat Coleman]

Before Pomona brought thier football program back into the conference, there was considerable backlash among coaches and athletic directors circa 1999-2001.  PP's lack of participation cost the conference an autobid to the playoffs - keeping an 8-0 OXY team out of the playoffs in 2001 and several Redlands teams out. 

Occidental was 7-1 on Selection Sunday, FWIW.
http://www.d3football.com/previous_info.php?school=Occidental&year=2001

[Gray Fox]

Oxy had to postpone their L&C game because of 9/11.  The big loss to Menlo hurt.  I assume they would have been 8-1.  Maybe that would have been good enough.    It's all Osama Bin Laden's fault.

[D O.C.]

Thanking OxyBob for the diligent research as always.

PC, I was not expecting you to delve into that sidelight. OxyBob and I had a personal message communication during the Texas thing as he was viewing the game.  I AM surprised you are up at 12:30AM tonight.

[dawgs57]

Pat,

Thanks for the correction.  I had forgotten about the Menlo loss.  They played a makeup game after they got snubbed for the playoffs.  We were going to make up our game against Whitworth, but they qualified for the playoffs.

[Pat Coleman]

Yeah -- I doubt that even in the 28-team system an undefeated SCIAC team would've been left out.