FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[scandihoovian]

I think it is the Cal Tech factor.  It is an eight team league.

Good point on Cal Tech, Gray Fox.  Nine teams makes for messy scheduling in every other sport.

I also agree that even very small changes in admissions and financial aid policies can have a huge impact on the ability of D3 schools to attract quality kids to their athletic programs.

[apgonzo]

There is rumor going around that they are trying to remove CLU from the SCIAC anyone of you knowledgeable gentleman heard anything about that? I heard it is because they are so far north.

[Gray Fox]

I used to live in Thousand Oaks.  You can drive to Redlands for a night game and still be back around midnight if

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Grey Fox writes:  "It is too bad that schools like L&C and Mac have such an elitest attitude about academics vs "jocks" and other real people."

It is most certainly not academics vs. jocks and other real people.  It is most decidedly at Oxy, as well as at Claremont, Pomona, and I presume the other schools you mention . . . a matter of academics.  No top academic college wants to admit kids who will not succeed.  It seems to me that would be a horrendous breach of trust by the institution to the kid.  Take the tuition money, get a couple of years of good play, then flunk him out?  

This is d3 . . . home of the true student athlete.  And among the d3 colleges, there is a wide variance in the academic rigor for entry and for graduation.  Could Oxy field a better team more consistently if the qualifications for admissions were lessened for football players?  Sure . . . but that is not the priority of the college, nor should it be.  I love football (almost as much as rugby) . . . I love to see a winning program . . . but I don't want to see Oxy, or any other school, bend its rules or sacrifice quality of its overall academics for the sake of winning a few games.  Oxy, Claremont and Pomona are good homes for the right students, just as Caltech is a good home for its students and Redlands, Whittier and LaVerne are good homes for theirs.

my 2 cents

[ChiTownOxyMoron]

Shoot, it's been a while since I posted. Just got back from So. Cal. where I got to watch the Oxy-La Verne game. It sucks not having access to internet.

That was a fun game to watch. La Verne came out ready to play, and it took Oxy a little to really get going. La Verne's offense dominated the first quarter, and Oxy's offense was a little out of sinc. In the second half, Oxy dominated on both sides of the ball. If Oxy plays like they did in the first half in the playoffs, they won't make it out of the 1st round, but if they play like they did in the second half, they could give Linfield a run for their money. The hope for Oxy fans is that Collins is on target from the start 'cause he has the recievers to put up points on anybody.

Oxy's D has been a little suspect at times, but they are very good at making adjustments. If teams score on them, they better get it in early.

I attended a homecoming event at Oxy last Friday where I got the opportunity to talk to both Jim Mora and Jack Kemp. It was a really fun experience, and both gave short keynote-like talks at the event. Mora and Kemp were roommates in their time at Oxy, and it showed when they were speaking. They poked fun at each other throughout their talks. It was a really inspiring dynamic to behold. Seeing two big names like that verbally jabbing one another like they did is something I'll take with me through the rest of my life.

On a side note, Mora and Kemp were both P.E. majors, which shows how far the SCIAC has come academically over the years. Just think, you can be a P.E. major and become an NFL head coach or a candidate for Vice President of the United States.

God I love this country!

[scandihoovian]

There is rumor going around that they are trying to remove CLU from the SCIAC anyone of you knowledgeable gentleman heard anything about that? I heard it is because they are so far north.

I would be shocked if that was the case.  I'm sure CLU's location was considered when it joined the conference in the early 1990's.  

Additionally, by most conference's standards CLU is not that far - 70 miles from the core schools (PP & CMS essentially share a campus while ULV is only 2 miles away)  Whittier's about the same distance in a slightly different direction and Oxy is about 40 miles from CLU.  The only real lengthy trip in the conference is CLU-Redlands, which is only about 120 miles but can take forever if you get stuck in traffic.

I am sure CLU will be in the SCIAC for many years to come.

[apgonzo]

I'll take it as just a rumor.

[Gray Fox]

SabreTooth,

I wasn't knocking academics.  I was promoting well rounded STUDENTS. 

[apgonzo]

It's good and bad that there no scholarships in d3 but after being around high school football for a while, I can't say I have ever seen high school players going to night school or J C's to qualify to get into a d3, but they sure do that to that for the the big schools even if they can't get a scholarship. Sure it would have been fun for my sons but I think after the games are over you still need that sheepskin, .....for every Pro there are thousands of "almosts"

[d-train]

CLU is within striking distance in the latest regional rankings. Gotta watch the other Pool C folks. To increase your chances win big, then hope for losses by RPI, St. John Fisher, DePauw, and Capital.

[apgonzo]

CLU is within striking distance in the latest regional rankings. Gotta watch the other Pool C folks. To increase your chances win big, then hope for losses by RPI, St. John Fisher, DePauw, and Capital.

You think all those teams have to lose in order for CLU to get in?

If thats the case good thing we've got alot of catholics on the team cause thats a whole bunch of candles that need lighting and rosary's being said.

[Tom Brady]

APGONZO- I would say that would be one of the most unbelievably stupid reasons for dropping CLU out of the SCIAC. (I am not calling you wrong here ).  CLU is only about an hour away from OXY, which I think is the closest school to Thousand Oaks.  If that really is the reason, I don't believe it.  The farthest trip for any SCIAC team to Thousand Oaks is Redlands, and that is only a little over 2 hours.  I think you heard exactly what it is....a rumor.

[d-train]

CLU is within striking distance in the latest regional rankings. Gotta watch the other Pool C folks. To increase your chances win big, then hope for losses by RPI, St. John Fisher, DePauw, and Capital.

You think all those teams have to lose in order for CLU to get in?

I'm not really sure....I think at least one or two of the first three listed need to fall. But hey, two are going up against undefeated teams.

[tigersports]

Affleck peaked in Dazed and Confused, as my L-I-V-I-N homey will concur.

Does anyone know of a place that, after 10P after a game, one can get beers, FOOD and watch the Hawaii or other late night Pac-10 game.  Crown City has #1 and 3 but stop serving at 10.

[rockcat]

Maybe Moose McGillicuddy's on Colorado Blvd in Pasadena.  You might have a hard time getting inside and finding a seat on a Saturday night though.