FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[scandihoovian]

Browneagle-

Oxy's points per game allowed is actually a little lower this year - I guess what concerns me is that in certain games they've given up big numbers to offenses like ULV's, that did not seem that high powered when I saw them play CLU.  Obviously I hope Oxy's D has a great game up north - and I know there's little chance that they'll come in underestimating their opponent.

[KennethK]

LB:  Thanks for the line score address:  So two of the picks were deep in Oxy territory (22 and 31 yd line) Can't give the Cats a short field.  Undoubtedly those were key TO's last year.  I see Carter also had a big game 153 yds.  So with George gone mayby Oxy can reduce Casey's production, eliminate a couple of Key Turnovers and be in the game.  Seems reasonable.  A close game will give all other contenders some hope.  The J's ought to get through the next two rounds.  The Cat's sure should too..but when you really break it down an Oxy vs J final is not to much of a stretch.

[scandihoovian]

A while back there was a discussion regarding SCIAC membership.  I though I'd post this link to the old SCAIC page which offers a few interesting facts on the changing conference membership over the years.

http://athletics.mckenna.edu/SCIAC/history.htm

[beancounter]

Kenneth...nice try.   I'd be far more worried about your Johnnies than spending a minute figuring out how Linfield might lose.   

Your posts remind me of watching the old Peanuts' TV special where Linus sits in the pumpkin patch all night long on Halloween waiting the the Great Pumpkin to appear to give him toys.  Linus hopes and hopes he'll come around but never does.  Similarly, you've spent all of this season "in the pumpkin patch" trying to figure out how Linfield would lose a game so the Johnnies could be the #1 seed.  In the meantime, Whitewater leaped past SJU and it seems likely there will be just one home game for the Johnnies.   Yet you assume the Johnnies will sail through the first two games and it isn't a stretch that Linfield could lose.

Whatever............

[Gig Harbor Cat]

As usual Kenneth is full of crap.  Its the Johnnies that don't make it out of the second round.  Whitewater should book their flight plans early to pdx and the Catdome.  Hear are my D3 picks, like em or not they are my picks.
first round winners
Linfield
Concordia
St Johns
Whitewater
Trinity
Wesley
Washington and Jefferson
Thiel
Wabash
Capital
Agustana
Mount
Delaware Valley
Hobart
Wilkes
Union

Second Round Winners
Linfield
Whitewater
Trinity
Thiel
Wabash
Mount
Delaware Valley
Union

   Phone it in, Its in the bank boys  Cats host Whitewater

                GHC

[RFB]

I would like to see Cal Tech pull out of the SCIAC. They are terrible in athletics, they should just concentrate on academics. I would then like to see Chapman join and then Azuza-Pacific to join DIII and the SCIAC.

[beancounter]

RFB....you bring up an interesting question about Azusa Pacific.  I've known my share of kids who have gone to AP and I look at the school and wonder what their opposition is to d3 and why they wouldn't want in.  ISTM that the school is more d3 than NAIA.   What do you know??

[scandihoovian]

Interesting thoughts, RFB, although I think CalTech may be in for good because they're a founding member and they require all students to play either a varsity or intramural sport.

As for APU they are certainly a dynamically growing place but I think there are two factors there.  The first is that they seem to enjoy promoting the school through football and basketball and their ability to give scholarships in those sports.  Second, they are a member of the GSAC in all other sports.  It's a conference that has a number of other religiously oriented institutions that take a similar approach to student life to that taken at Azusa (student ethical & behavior codes, etc.).

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Scandahoovian is dead on right.  To join SCIAC/NCAA DIII, Azusa Pacific Univ. would have to top giving athletic scholarships, which are permitted (with a cap) under applicable NAIA rules.  Further, NAIA attracts a lot of religious institutions (about 2/3 according to the NAIA website) and Azusa is an evangelical institution.  I've never heard of any interest by APU in being part of the SCIAC.

Don't know the story on Chapman, other than it was once briefly affliated.

If you haven't seen Cawdad's posting on the NWC board, he's added another stat post that suggests a close matchup  this Saturday.  Let's all hope that the 'Cats take GHC's advise and "phone it in" leading to an Oxy upset.

Io Triumphe! Io Triumphe!
Haben shwaben, rebeka le animor
Whoopty whoopty, shelerdy veridy,
Broomdy raldy idee-pah
Haneka-heneka whaka-whaka
Boldebara-boldebara
Com-slomidy hob-dob-rah!
O.C. Rah!

GO OXY!

[rbaikie]

Another point about APU football -

As an independent, they have to finish as the highest independent rated in the top 20 to make the playoffs - in order to do this, they need to beat as many NAIA ranked teams, like Carroll in Montana. Just as a D3 team beating an NAIA team doesn' help much in the D3 rankings, for APU to beat a D3 team doesn't help them as much in the top 20.

Making the playoffs are very important to APU as they have been competitive for the Director's Cup in NAIA for thelast 5 or 6 years, at least. (The Directors Cup provides points for national titles and playoff accomplishments - I think Sears sponsors it and they do it at all levels of college - NAIA, D1, D2, and D3).

As for Chapman, I think they like their independent status. Especially in sports like baseball, they can schedule who they want to try and showcase the sport - for a few years, baseball was D1 and when it converted to D3 was still pretty tough.

[wildcat11]

So I had a few down minutes here during lunch and I was checking out Oxy's athletic website (which isn't much to write home about....Cal Lu's site looks really good.)

I know that the Tigers had field turf installed but I can't believe they ruined a perfectly good surface by taking an orange highlighter to the field!

If you're going to do it....do it right! 

[scandihoovian]

As always WC11 - it's tough to sneak those details past you 

Oxy obviously faces big challenges as to available real estate - so I don't think having separate soccer and football stadiums is an option.  I know too, from talking to Soccer players, that they prefer natural grass - which is what I'd imagine the Linfield soccer teams play on.

[D O.C.]

Io Triumphe! Io Triumphe!
Haben shwaben, rebeka le animor
Whoopty whoopty, shelerdy veridy,
Broomdy raldy idee-pah
Haneka-heneka whaka-whaka
Boldebara-boldebara
Com-slomidy hob-dob-rah!
O.C. Rah!

GO OXY!

NO DOUBT about it.

Your 1918 chant wins that round.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Patterson Field (Oxy) has to serve for football, men's and women's soccer, men's and women's rugby as well as, from time to time, lacrosse and ultimate frisbee.  There is a separate natural grass field for soccer and rugby games and practice, but Patterson needs to carry the overload, overlap and when it rains.  

As you might imagine, real estate in Los Angeles is at a premium so space and costs of adding fields is problematic.

So, WC11, it was done "right" . . . just not football pure, much to the chagrin of some, but not the many.

Hopefully, the Tigers will enjoy hosting a playoff game on their new turf against Concordia Moorhead or Coe after a fine showing in McMinnville this Saturday.

EAT'EM UP TIGERS!

[Sabretooth Tiger]

The new "Around the Nation" is posted.  A nice read and lot's of love for the west, particularly, through my biased eyes, Linfield and Oxy.