FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[tigersports]

I take solace in the knowledge that from now on in . . .

OK, not delusional . . . but not as slow on the uptake as you might think.  Given that you are learned member of the bar and an outstanding wordsmith . . . I took the "from now on in" with a bit of confusion since it is possible from this temporal point in time space for the Poets to upset the Tigers and the Dawgs to beat the Kingsmen which would give Redlands the playoff spot in light of their head to head victory over the Who in this scenario . . . thus my bit of confusion . . . since I didn't think you'd take much solace until it is a done deal and the refrigerator door is closed and the lights are turned off.

tooth

I don't think head to head is it.

From CLU

Cal Lutheran (7-1, 5-0 SCIAC) earns at least a share of the SCIAC title with only one game remaining in the season. In 2007 the Kingsmen faced an identical scenario as CLU dropped its final game to Redlands and a Whittier upset of Occidental kept Cal Lutheran at home and still without an NCAA postseason appearance in the program's history.

"This is a much different group," said Coach McEnroe after taking the Kingsmen to a co-title in his first year at the helm that season. "That is ancient history...we don't even think about that anymore."

A victory next Saturday, November 14 at home against Redlands would squash any afterthoughts and secure the first outright conference title in Kingsmen football history, since Cal Lutheran joined the SCIAC in 1991.

Head to head is the tiebreaker when two teams tie.  The "three-way" would have been the scenario in '07, had not Oxy yielded 1,453 yard passing to Scurlock.  But the Poets' 67-61 win quashed the dreaded unwieldy tie and allowed Redlands to get in by virtue of their win against Cal Lu earlier that day.

[Gray Fox]

Thank you.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Which is exactly why in the event of a three way tie (Lu dropping to the Dawgs and Oxy beating the Poets) the Who would still get the conference playoff slot . . .

The only way the Who sit out round one is in the event of a Who loss AND an Oxy loss, thus giving Redlands another head to head.

Not gonna happen.

[Kingsmen4]

Not gonna happen.

Amen. Not this year

[tigersports]

Which is exactly why in the event of a three way tie (Lu dropping to the Dawgs and Oxy beating the Poets) the Who would still get the conference playoff slot . . .

The only way the Who sit out round one is in the event of a Who loss AND an Oxy loss, thus giving Redlands another head to head.

Not gonna happen.

That's what they said in '07.  I want the Tigers to win, but this is a team that beat La Verne by a point and Chapman by six, both at home.  Also, don't forget that Whittier took Oxy down to the wire in '06 on the season's last day.  Those shoes cause weird things to happen.  Tigers should win but there is a reason they make you play the games.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Absolutely . . . but it ain't gonna happen!!

IO TRIUMPHE, EAT'EM UP TIGERS!

[Nihon Tiger]

Whittier keeps finding ways to make this matchup difficult every year.

In '05 Oxy had to score a 4th Q go ahead TD to beat Whittier 27-20.  This was mainly because they exploited a hole in our run game and cut our offensive production in half.  (Said hole has since been patched thanks to oline coach Bill Dobson, CLU tried to do the same thing in '08 and it didn't work.)  Andy "Real Deal AC" Collins had to truck their middle lb and his oversize neck roll on a 3rd and 10 qb keeper to seal it.

In '06 Oxy came out flat at home, having already clinched a SCIAC title and playoff bid.  I think we were down something like 20 pts at half.  Ridiculous Collins-led 2nd half comeback to win 34-30.

Everyone remembers '07 I hope.  For those new this year Whittier upset Oxy 67-61 behind QB Josh Scurlock.  I think Scurlock found Andy's "We will not lose this game" potion or something.  My God how it sucked as a player to put up 61 points on a garbage defense and have to hear them talk smack the whole game anyways.

The lone exception was last year, when we finally gave the Poets the beatdown they deserved all those past years, and took back the SHOES.

I told you that to tell you this: don't write off Whittier.  HECTOR hasn't

[OxyBob]

Whittier keeps Josh Scurlock kept finding ways to make this matchup difficult every year.

Fixed.

Josh "Houdini" Scurlock is gone. There's no escape for the Poets. I quote one of our esteemed NWC posters:

Phone it in

OxyBob

[jdD3FBfan]

That's what they said in '07.  I want the Tigers to win, but this is a team that beat La Verne by a point and Chapman by six, both at home.  Also, don't forget that Whittier took Oxy down to the wire in '06 on the season's last day.  Those shoes cause weird things to happen.  Tigers should win but there is a reason they make you play the games.  Kingsmen4

"The only way of finding the limits of the possible is by going beyond them into the impossible."
Arthur C. Clarke

I'm hoping for a really "GOOD" game (Redlands vs. CLU) this weekend. No matter what.... I hope both teams play well so they can leave the field knowing they played to their best ability without any regrets! 

The best team "ON THAT DAY"; whether it be CLU as "Conference Champions" or if they share the title with Oxy & Redlands I have to say it's been an exiting "first" season for me!  Have there been past years when the Championship as been shared by "3" teams?

From the posts it sounds like CLU is absolutely favored to win. In my very "limited experience" sometimes being the "underdog" in a big game works to that teams advantage.  One of my favorite all time (H.S.) football games is when my sons team was down 0-28 at 1/2 time.  Our home crowd was disgusted and 90% of them left.  They read in the paper the next day that we came back to win the game 29-28!! 

What's the scoop on "POOL C"?  Will any of the SCIAC teams be in contention for a pool c bid?   I just heard this term over the weekend and haven't looked into it yet.....I'm sure you guys can fill me in faster than I can track down the information!  LOL

So sad the season is going to be ending for so many already!  They all work so hard year round and then in a blink of an eye it's over!   

[Sabretooth Tiger]

What's the scoop on "POOL C"?  Will any of the SCIAC teams be in contention for a pool c bid?   I just heard this term over the weekend and haven't looked into it yet.....I'm sure you guys can fill me in faster than I can track down the information!  LOL

Highly unlikely.  Oxy is unranked in the region.  Cal Lu is 8, Redlands is 9 . . . either one losing will drop their ranking . . . limited # of bids . . . no pool C for the second place sciac team.

[Gray Fox]

What's the scoop on "POOL C"?  Will any of the SCIAC teams be in contention for a pool c bid?   I just heard this term over the weekend and haven't looked into it yet.....I'm sure you guys can fill me in faster than I can track down the information!  LOL

Does this help?  It means a second SCIAC team has a chance as a second place team.

http://d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=Playoffs&id=4

[jdD3FBfan]

Quote from: Toby Taff on Today at 11:21:37 am
Quote from: MonroviaCat on Today at 11:11:36 am
Nice work K-Mack--here is my question about your proposed bracket:  If Redlands beats CLU and wins a Pool C selection--does CLU really still end up seated higher than them and get the home game in round 1?  Or might the committee look at the head to head when placing them in brackets and swap--give Redlands the home game and send CLU up to Linfield?  I only ask because, as a Linfield fan and somebody who has watched the SCIAC this year--Redlands looks like the better team (compared to CLU) and should they win on Saturday will confirm this--  So, it would seem a little "unfair" to give the weaker team the home game and send the better team on the road (not to mention a bit unfair to Linfield to have to face a better first round team than their ranking might otherwise dictate).

In Texas we understand that "fair" has nothing to do with it.  The only reason I think CLU and Redlands wouldn't meet again is because it would be back to back weeks, but if they did, it could also mean only 1 flight UMHB to Linfield.  Which match up would be more fair?  Redlands -Linfield or UMHB - Linfield

I actually think Redlands to MHB and CLU to Linfield would be more fair--and we know about the unfairness of it all in the Northwest as well....

So if Redlands does beat CLU do they have a chance at a "POOL C", or does anyone really even know for sure?

[jdD3FBfan]

What's the scoop on "POOL C"?  Will any of the SCIAC teams be in contention for a pool c bid?   I just heard this term over the weekend and haven't looked into it yet.....I'm sure you guys can fill me in faster than I can track down the information!  LOL

Does this help?  It means a second SCIAC team has a chance as a second place team.

http://d3football.com/faq.php?answer&category=Playoffs&id=4

THANK YOU!

[DutchFan2004]

What's the scoop on "POOL C"?  Will any of the SCIAC teams be in contention for a pool c bid?   I just heard this term over the weekend and haven't looked into it yet.....I'm sure you guys can fill me in faster than I can track down the information!  LOL

Highly unlikely.  Oxy is unranked in the region.  Cal Lu is 8, Redlands is 9 . . . either one losing will drop their ranking . . . limited # of bids . . . no pool C for the second place sciac team.

Tooth you forget that a Redlands win and Cal Lu loss would help Redlands in the race as Redlands needs that for a Pool C bid.  Redlands would slide into that 8 spot.  This would be the year that the SCIAC would have a serious bid for a Pool C bid.  If UWW gets shipped out that would open a spot.  The likelyhood of a rematch would exist.  You could see an IIAC team or MIAC team shipped out to play Linfield and the Cali teams would get to fight it out again keeping it a one flight bracket.  I don't know if that will happen but it is possible for two SCIAC teams to get there. 

[Kingsmen4]

If SAturday would just get here a little bit faster we wouldn;t have to worry about any of this!