FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[OxyBob]

Congrads to your Tigers for their resounding victory ov La Sierra, oops I mean Pomona-Pitzer.

Oxy and Pomona have been playing each other since 1895. It's kind of a big deal, perhaps not as big a deal as the long, storied D-III history of Chapman football, which stretches all the way back to 1994. But, Chapman not being a member of the SCIAC, I understand your lack of knowledge.

Here's an article about the Oxy-Pomona game which ran in the Los Angeles Times on September 19, 2010:

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/sep/19/local/la-me-0919-then-20100919

I searched in vain for an article about the bitter rivalry between Chapman and St. Mary's. Or was it Azusa Pacific?

OxyBob

[cludad]

Thats a great problem to have for CLU. Ramay runs the O better but Shultis throws a nice pass with a little more pace on it. Mabye CLU will go with a 2QB system. I think with either one is a win, the offense is good, Bob Toledo has been a big plus this year.

[Fear the Poet]

FtP,that flag was legit.It wasnt thrown on the covering db but on #9 who just flat out gave a wr on the opposite  side a huge cheap shot. That was a personel foul that needed to be called.

Yes, I agree but that one hurt

[D O.C.]

I believe you're on to something about having to choose between two quarterbacks being a big problem. Not a good one though.

[cludad]

D O.C. it's really not a negative,both are more than capable.Coach Mac will make the choice he feels is the best.

[bluenote]

I'd like to see CLU shipped to the South.

[Gray Fox]

I'd like to see CLU shipped to the South.

I can't wait to meet cludad in Belton against UMHB.

[doodlesdad]

The polls are out and -- yawn! -- Cal utheran is eighth again. Doesn't matter who loses ahead of us, the voters will find somebody to jump. Yeah, I know North Central pounded Illinois, 52-0, but Wesleyan was forced to use a freshman who had thrown exactly one collegiate pass. The results were predictable: 40-16-3 for 130 yards with one INT returned fpr a score and five sacks. I know North Central's a fine team; it's my belief that if we'd have beaten Linfield, 33-30, instead of the other way around, we MIGHT be seventh this week. Also, Illinois Wesleyan is 1-9 in the past decade; they were beaten before they took the field.

Also, don't know what Ben McEnroe's going to do at QB with Ramay is back, but the numbers say Shultis: 119-84-0, .706, 1,195 yds, 5 TDs to 129-78-6, .605, 901 yds, 8 TDs. Two-QB systems almost never work.

[cludad]

Doodlesdad, don't forget North centrals game 1 loss to a team that i think is 3-5, mabye if the Cats had lost a few games we might have moved up(dang Linfield).... Where's Belton  ?

[MonroviaCat]

Doodlesdad, don't forget North centrals game 1 loss to a team that i think is 3-5, mabye if the Cats had lost a few games we might have moved up(dang Linfield)

Ha ha ha--maybe if you guys had played more than 3 teams with winning records (so far) and beat all of them (instead of 2) you'd be ranked higher also---but settle down guys--these ranking mean nothing.  The ranking that come out on Wed.  mean a little something but all that really matters is where you end up at the end of the year.....and if it's not #1 then it doesn't matter much anyway, right?

[Pat Coleman]

The polls are out and -- yawn! -- Cal utheran is eighth again. Doesn't matter who loses ahead of us, the voters will find somebody to jump. Yeah, I know North Central pounded Illinois, 52-0, but Wesleyan was forced to use a freshman who had thrown exactly one collegiate pass. The results were predictable: 40-16-3 for 130 yards with one INT returned fpr a score and five sacks. I know North Central's a fine team; it's my belief that if we'd have beaten Linfield, 33-30, instead of the other way around, we MIGHT be seventh this week. Also, Illinois Wesleyan is 1-9 in the past decade; they were beaten before they took the field.

Also, don't know what Ben McEnroe's going to do at QB with Ramay is back, but the numbers say Shultis: 119-84-0, .706, 1,195 yds, 5 TDs to 129-78-6, .605, 901 yds, 8 TDs. Two-QB systems almost never work.

When I looked at this for my ballot, I was far more interested in the 38 points that Whittier scored than the IWU-North Central passing numbers.

[MonroviaCat]

The polls are out and -- yawn! -- Cal utheran is eighth again. Doesn't matter who loses ahead of us, the voters will find somebody to jump. Yeah, I know North Central pounded Illinois, 52-0, but Wesleyan was forced to use a freshman who had thrown exactly one collegiate pass. The results were predictable: 40-16-3 for 130 yards with one INT returned fpr a score and five sacks. I know North Central's a fine team; it's my belief that if we'd have beaten Linfield, 33-30, instead of the other way around, we MIGHT be seventh this week. Also, Illinois Wesleyan is 1-9 in the past decade; they were beaten before they took the field.

Also, don't know what Ben McEnroe's going to do at QB with Ramay is back, but the numbers say Shultis: 119-84-0, .706, 1,195 yds, 5 TDs to 129-78-6, .605, 901 yds, 8 TDs. Two-QB systems almost never work.

When I looked at this for my ballot, I was far more interested in the 38 points that Whittier scored than the IWU-North Central passing numbers.

Just out of curiosity did common opponent (Redlands) have anything to do with your ballot Pat?

[Pat Coleman]

Not really -- that was September and I'm far more interested in the more recent indicators. Plus, not that Cal Lutheran doesn't get up for a game against Redlands, but let's remember that North Central had a couple big factors on their side in that game. Redlands had a long trip, and North Central was, shall we say, super-inspired to beat Redlands considering how the 2011 game went.

North Central has not been touched in the CCIW since 2009, in fact, nobody has been within a touchdown of them in the league. And the CCIW is pretty good.

[wildozer]

The polls are out and -- yawn! -- Cal utheran is eighth again. Doesn't matter who loses ahead of us, the voters will find somebody to jump. Yeah, I know North Central pounded Illinois, 52-0, but Wesleyan was forced to use a freshman who had thrown exactly one collegiate pass. The results were predictable: 40-16-3 for 130 yards with one INT returned fpr a score and five sacks. I know North Central's a fine team; it's my belief that if we'd have beaten Linfield, 33-30, instead of the other way around, we MIGHT be seventh this week. Also, Illinois Wesleyan is 1-9 in the past decade; they were beaten before they took the field.

Also, don't know what Ben McEnroe's going to do at QB with Ramay is back, but the numbers say Shultis: 119-84-0, .706, 1,195 yds, 5 TDs to 129-78-6, .605, 901 yds, 8 TDs. Two-QB systems almost never work.

When I looked at this for my ballot, I was far more interested in the 38 points that Whittier scored than the IWU-North Central passing numbers.

Yeah that was a lot of points to give up. If it had been like last year with a goose egg instead of 38 points for Whittier. CALU probably would have moved up- to 7. It is pretty rarified air up near the top,

[Jack Parkman]

The polls are out and -- yawn! -- Cal utheran is eighth again. Doesn't matter who loses ahead of us, the voters will find somebody to jump. Yeah, I know North Central pounded Illinois, 52-0, but Wesleyan was forced to use a freshman who had thrown exactly one collegiate pass. The results were predictable: 40-16-3 for 130 yards with one INT returned fpr a score and five sacks. I know North Central's a fine team; it's my belief that if we'd have beaten Linfield, 33-30, instead of the other way around, we MIGHT be seventh this week. Also, Illinois Wesleyan is 1-9 in the past decade; they were beaten before they took the field.

Also, don't know what Ben McEnroe's going to do at QB with Ramay is back, but the numbers say Shultis: 119-84-0, .706, 1,195 yds, 5 TDs to 129-78-6, .605, 901 yds, 8 TDs. Two-QB systems almost never work.

Lets face the facts....the SCIAC is garbage not a competitive league .  Take away Cal Lu's record and there is nothing special.  Redlands is a good team but when you get stomped by a nationally ranked team, regardless of on the road or at home, the conference isn't going to look good.  The SCIAC has an overall record of 23-33, which doesn't help in any argument.  Pomona and CMS are terrible; Oxy is a bad team; Whittier has a great "O" but that doesn't mean anything when their 3 wins are against teams with a total of 1 win.  LaVerne looks to be respectable and I really don't know what to make of Chapman.  Their record is ok but their "best: wins are against LaVerne and Whittier.  We will see.
It's the same old deal for Cal Lu.  Until they can beat Linfield, they will never be considered "elite" and will struggle to get recognized as anything more than the best in the SCIAC.  I really wish CLU would get paired up with someone other than Linfield in the 1st round but I don't know how likely that is.  The SOS of Cal Lu isn't that great and it's likely they will be around 7-8 in the Regional Rankings, which means another trip to Oregon for the 1st round.  Maybe the NCAA will open their pockets for once (highly unlikely) and send CLU somewhere else or bring someone in, but I'll believe it when I see it.