FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[CalCat]

Monrovia Cat,

Thanks for your take. We agree on the LF ranking issue, so we would agree this year UR/LF would have been a closer game than in the past and UR had a real chance versus the past LF team.  but we don't agree on a team that gave MHB a much better game than LF did twice. I would not expect anymore on a message board. Honestly the biggest tilt in our game was not completing the double pass that was wide open. We go in up 21 at half and they have to throw the ball second half. That was more critical than the worse call in the playoffs by the sideline judge in the playoffs.

If you watched MHB playoffs run, UR game plan was to make MHB throw it, their QB beat our DE on RPO...they won. (Osh and MU adjusted even more with their DE)..they beat us up inside pretty good too, our DBs did a great job in cover...LF game plan I am not sure what they were trying to accomplish .....but MU and Osh were not going to let the RPO beat them and forced MHB to throw the ball. Osh did a great job stopping MHB going small up front. I found it interesting Osh went after the same kids UR did in the passing game.

In conclusion a team that gave the national champ a tougher game half than the 7th and 8th ranked teams barely deserves to be in the top 25. Hey its a message board, I get it

fixed that for you

Old Dog...if UMHB had to play one more game to preserve undefeated  season and had to choose between Linfield or Redlands, which one do you think they would choose ?

[olddog]

Given it would have been the third game against LF...it would be asking a lot of their kids to dominate LF again but I think they would be up to it..,....I think UR is a tougher match up for MHB (UR has more team speed than Osh so UR could copy a lot of what Osh did on both sides of the ball, I liked their (Osh) defensive game plan) ......Did you notice Osh offense picked on #4 corner like UR (we had faster WR than Osh)  and Osh tried to run middle return on Kick off...all holes UR found... Did you notice Osh gave MHB the deep outs just like UR. Osh had a great plan versus RPO and stopped their stud enough on inside run....All hole they fixed after seeing UR game on tape

We had drives that lead two TD's and a third we got robbed by the side judge....all LF could muster on offense was one FG in their second game playing them...We had tape on their last three games of the season, all blow outs, by MHB, it did us no good..LF had the script from the last blowout....So LF is the easier out for MHB, proof is on the field not this message board, sorry..LF was never in both games against MHB...and UR was, why is that so hard to agree on or concede?  It humors me...LF got smoked, it happens, some years top ranked team (I know Pat #3 in D3.com)  are overrated....This is what makes it fun. MU and WW are not on top this year too...I am glad two new teams were in the finals. I hope its not any of the four above next year. Maybe LF makes it if their O line gets fixed and they find a QB. Coach Smith will be back, this was good for his program. Going 4-5 was good for Maynard, reminded him to focus on what works...straighten the ship...get rid of the bad attitudes, work harder in the off season, improve week to week, etc..

[CalCat]

Given it would have been the third game against LF...it would be asking a lot of their kids to dominate LF again but I think they would be up to it..,....I think UR is a tougher match up for MHB (UR has more team speed than Osh so UR could copy a lot of what Osh did on both sides of the ball, I liked their (Osh) defensive game plan) ......Did you notice Osh offense picked on #4 corner like UR (we had faster WR than Osh)  and Osh tried to run middle return on Kick off...all holes UR found... Did you notice Osh gave MHB the deep outs just like UR. Osh had a great plan versus RPO and stopped their stud enough on inside run....All hole they fixed after seeing UR game on tape

We had drives that lead two TD's and a third we got robbed by the side judge....all LF could muster on offense was one FG in their second game playing them...We had tape on their last three games of the season, all blow outs, by MHB, it did us no good..LF had the script from the last blowout....So LF is the easier out for MHB, proof is on the field not this message board, sorry..LF was never in both games against MHB...and UR was, why is that so hard to agree on or concede?  It humors me...LF got smoked, it happens, some years top ranked team (I know Pat #3 in D3.com)  are overrated....This is what makes it fun. MU and WW are not on top this year too...I am glad two new teams were in the finals. I hope its not any of the four above next year. Maybe LF makes it if their O line gets fixed and they find a QB. Coach Smith will be back, this was good for his program. Going 4-5 was good for Maynard, reminded him to focus on what works...straighten the ship...get rid of the bad attitudes, work harder in the off season, improve week to week, etc..

Old Dog l was at both Linfield/ UMHB games and your wrong about Linfield not being in the game...despite self inflicted mistakes they were still in the game going into 4th quarter of the first game....but you didn't answer my question...who do you think UMHB would rather have for one more game...who do you think they would feel they would have the easier time against ?  Linfield or Redlands ?

[D O.C.]

Hang in there olddog. Your putting 28 on the National Champs will get you through the winter.
I was so disappointed when that wide open receiver was missed by 12 yards.
MERRY CHRISTMAS.

(repeat contently: Mary Hardin Baylor was NOT looking past us.)

[Pat Coleman]

Monrovia Cat,

In the AFCA "coaches poll" Wheaton #7, LF #8, UR #25....I put more merit in this poll than D3.com poll...sorry Pat

Of course you do -- if we ranked your team better, you'd like ours, right? But the coaches' poll is usually very kind to the lower-tier conferences, and we're kind to the conferences whose teams win playoff games, which is why ours is more accurate every November.

It was nice to see the coaches poll finally got around to ranking UMHB No. 1.

[SaintsFAN]

It was nice to see the coaches poll finally got around to ranking UMHB No. 1.

Yeah, how many weeks were they behind the D3 Poll on that? 

The D3 poll has coaches in it, as well, correct?  I feel like the experts are in the D3 poll, while the coaches poll are 25 coaches who have tunnel vision during the season (focusing on their work). 

[wildcat11]

It was nice to see the coaches poll finally got around to ranking UMHB No. 1.

Yeah, how many weeks were they behind the D3 Poll on that? 

The D3 poll has coaches in it, as well, correct?  I feel like the experts are in the D3 poll, while the coaches poll are 25 coaches who have tunnel vision during the season (focusing on their work).

I had UMHB at number 1 for most of the year. Seeing this year's defense up close made me a believer.

[SaintsFAN]

It was nice to see the coaches poll finally got around to ranking UMHB No. 1.

Yeah, how many weeks were they behind the D3 Poll on that? 

The D3 poll has coaches in it, as well, correct?  I feel like the experts are in the D3 poll, while the coaches poll are 25 coaches who have tunnel vision during the season (focusing on their work).

I had UMHB at number 1 for most of the year. Seeing this year's defense up close made me a believer.

Same.  They beat #1 on my ballot in Week 3 and that was enough for me.

[olddog]

Monrovia Cat,

In the AFCA "coaches poll" Wheaton #7, LF #8, UR #25....I put more merit in this poll than D3.com poll...sorry Pat

Of course you do -- if we ranked your team better, you'd like ours, right? But the coaches' poll is usually very kind to the lower-tier conferences, and we're kind to the conferences whose teams win playoff games, which is why ours is more accurate every November.

It was nice to see the coaches poll finally got around to ranking UMHB No. 1.

That is not true Pat, I think coaches know more about football than the media. D1 to D99...

[olddog]

Given it would have been the third game against LF...it would be asking a lot of their kids to dominate LF again but I think they would be up to it..,....I think UR is a tougher match up for MHB (UR has more team speed than Osh so UR could copy a lot of what Osh did on both sides of the ball, I liked their (Osh) defensive game plan) ......Did you notice Osh offense picked on #4 corner like UR (we had faster WR than Osh)  and Osh tried to run middle return on Kick off...all holes UR found... Did you notice Osh gave MHB the deep outs just like UR. Osh had a great plan versus RPO and stopped their stud enough on inside run....All hole they fixed after seeing UR game on tape

We had drives that lead two TD's and a third we got robbed by the side judge....all LF could muster on offense was one FG in their second game playing them...We had tape on their last three games of the season, all blow outs, by MHB, it did us no good..LF had the script from the last blowout....So LF is the easier out for MHB, proof is on the field not this message board, sorry..LF was never in both games against MHB...and UR was, why is that so hard to agree on or concede?  It humors me...LF got smoked, it happens, some years top ranked team (I know Pat #3 in D3.com)  are overrated....This is what makes it fun. MU and WW are not on top this year too...I am glad two new teams were in the finals. I hope its not any of the four above next year. Maybe LF makes it if their O line gets fixed and they find a QB. Coach Smith will be back, this was good for his program. Going 4-5 was good for Maynard, reminded him to focus on what works...straighten the ship...get rid of the bad attitudes, work harder in the off season, improve week to week, etc..

Old Dog l was at both Linfield/ UMHB games and your wrong about Linfield not being in the game...despite self inflicted mistakes they were still in the game going into 4th quarter of the first game....but you didn't answer my question...who do you think UMHB would rather have for one more game...who do you think they would feel they would have the easier time against ?  Linfield or Redlands ?

I just told you UR is a tougher match up for MHB than LF....so they would pick LF again...no brainer

[olddog]

Hang in there olddog. Your putting 28 on the National Champs will get you through the winter.
I was so disappointed when that wide open receiver was missed by 12 yards.
MERRY CHRISTMAS.

(repeat contently: Mary Hardin Baylor was NOT looking past us.)

I am "A" ok with what happen, I just get a kick out LF fans....Both teams never played each other this season, UR got hot at the end of the year and  did far better against the National Champ than LF, proves my point on the field. I said if there ever was year we had a chance against LF it was this years team. They were not close to what they were seasons past. Its been a great program, just over rated this season, the difference between the two teams was not as great as the LF fans like to think...UR is going to be tough again next year too, if the Defense Line comes around early..

[CalCat]

Given it would have been the third game against LF...it would be asking a lot of their kids to dominate LF again but I think they would be up to it..,....I think UR is a tougher match up for MHB (UR has more team speed than Osh so UR could copy a lot of what Osh did on both sides of the ball, I liked their (Osh) defensive game plan) ......Did you notice Osh offense picked on #4 corner like UR (we had faster WR than Osh)  and Osh tried to run middle return on Kick off...all holes UR found... Did you notice Osh gave MHB the deep outs just like UR. Osh had a great plan versus RPO and stopped their stud enough on inside run....All hole they fixed after seeing UR game on tape

We had drives that lead two TD's and a third we got robbed by the side judge....all LF could muster on offense was one FG in their second game playing them...We had tape on their last three games of the season, all blow outs, by MHB, it did us no good..LF had the script from the last blowout....So LF is the easier out for MHB, proof is on the field not this message board, sorry..LF was never in both games against MHB...and UR was, why is that so hard to agree on or concede?  It humors me...LF got smoked, it happens, some years top ranked team (I know Pat #3 in D3.com)  are overrated....This is what makes it fun. MU and WW are not on top this year too...I am glad two new teams were in the finals. I hope its not any of the four above next year. Maybe LF makes it if their O line gets fixed and they find a QB. Coach Smith will be back, this was good for his program. Going 4-5 was good for Maynard, reminded him to focus on what works...straighten the ship...get rid of the bad attitudes, work harder in the off season, improve week to week, etc..

Old Dog l was at both Linfield/ UMHB games and your wrong about Linfield not being in the game...despite self inflicted mistakes they were still in the game going into 4th quarter of the first game....but you didn't answer my question...who do you think UMHB would rather have for one more game...who do you think they would feel they would have the easier time against ?  Linfield or Redlands ?

I just told you UR is a tougher match up for MHB than LF....so they would pick LF again...no brainer

Redlands total yards vs UMHB 184 only other team with less vs UMHB was McMurray at 181 total yards....pretty sure OD they would want Redlands if looking for easier time of it. Week prior to UMHB Redlands struggled against Cal Lu and two week prior got the Hens by 2...the Hens !  And you think it's a no brainer ?  Pretty sure UMHB would tell you otherwise.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Monrovia Cat,

In the AFCA "coaches poll" Wheaton #7, LF #8, UR #25....I put more merit in this poll than D3.com poll...sorry Pat

Of course you do -- if we ranked your team better, you'd like ours, right? But the coaches' poll is usually very kind to the lower-tier conferences, and we're kind to the conferences whose teams win playoff games, which is why ours is more accurate every November.

It was nice to see the coaches poll finally got around to ranking UMHB No. 1.

That is not true Pat, I think coaches know more about football than the media. D1 to D99...

About football, sure.  But during the season they are not going to spend any time 'scouting' teams that are not on their schedule.  About teams they aren't going to play, they probably know less than the average poster on this site, much less the d3football.com voters.

[George Thompson]

I am "A" ok with what happen, I just get a kick out LF fans....Both teams never played each other this season, UR got hot at the end of the year and  did far better against the National Champ than LF, proves my point on the field. I said if there ever was year we had a chance against LF it was this years team.

That may be true.    Yet, Hardin-Simmons lost to MHB by only 5 points.    LC beat them by 14--on their home field.    By that logic, we should have beaten MHB.    But, twice we did not.

Redlands' best shot was 1998 when we had a team well below average for us.   Six of our seven wins were by a field goal or less.    We finished 7-2, thanks to our defense.

George

[D O.C.]

Hi RFB!

Meaningless fun drivel we have here.
OK, olddog, Redlands connects on that W  I  D  E   open receiver and he scores! The field gooooooooaaaaaall is good. Mary cannot come all the way back. They were really, really overlooking those dawgs.  Redlands pulls off the upset of the season.
Where does the ncaa set the next game?