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USee

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on December 29, 2016, 03:03:08 PM
I'm just curious.  Considering both teams lost what difference does it make?  Losses are marked in the right hand column regardless.     

That was my premise at the onset of these discussions. And Emma's point is the reason we persist. If you don't want to participate, it's a click away!  8-)

emma17

Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 02:58:49 PM
Emma,

Just so we are looking at facts:

UR was down 28-37 with 5:13 left in the 3rd, had the ball deep in MHB territory (MHB 3--after a 63 yd KO return), with a chance to make it a one score game and was stopped on downs. That was their only possession in MHB territory in the 2nd half.

Wheaton was down 9-17 with 5:24 to go in the 3rd (INT return for TD) Wheaton then had the ball, down 16-31 deep in MHB territory (MHB 15--after an 11 play 66 yd drive), in the mid 4th quarter,  with a chance to make it a one score game and was stopped on downs. Wheaton had the ball 4x in MHB territory in the second half and scored TD's 2x.

Linfield did not have a possession in MHB territory in the second half of the game and had the PR TD in 2nd half.

So Wheaton trailed by 8 pts at the exact same time in the game that UR trailed by 9. Wheaton had 4 chances in MHB territory and UR had 1 in the second half. To say UR had a better chance than Wheaton did  to win the game in the second half is a bit of a stretch.

USee,
Thanks for setting me straight.  I really didn't look at the stats and I should have.  Imo a two-score game is not able to be moved into the "safe" category.  Wheaton was within 2 scores until the last two minutes of the game. They were there. 

DFWCrufan

I'd like to weigh in a bit on this. All of the post season matches were good games, all the programs came with a fire in their heart and wanted a W as all should and we were not disappointed. I would not be willing to say that UR outplayed LF vs. the Cru. One of the issues we had vs. UR was two major turn overs, two fumbles that gave UR the ball. We came out flat in the first playoff round, not to take URs ability to capitalize on them away from them, but once a sit down and shake up half time talk took place, the Cru got their game together. Now, that being said, UR was a wake up call, a good ol' step on your toes kinda thing that prepped the Cru for the next games.
With that being done We faced Linfield and Wheaton far more serious than we might have. each game is different, I can tell you watching the Linfield and Wheaton games was on the edge of the seats kind of thing, as was the UMU game, but all of them were their own creature. I still have, and believe any Cru fan would agree, have very much respect for U of Redlands, Linfield and Wheaton.... UR was a complete surprise as I thought they would not make the SCIAC championship based upon early games, at one point I thought, holy cow could Pomona make it??? But the Bulldogs pulled it off by capturing their game. Bottomline, for us, the season overall was one very exciting and amazing thing, I still think Linfield will be a power going forward, U of Redlands can keep their SCIAC ownership if they keep their game serious in the off season and Wheaton.... caught me completely off guard, they brought one hell of a game. As far as I am concerned, we cannot say one played better then the other...i would say., they all brought their game, unfortunately there can only be one victor...2017 is now in the sights...we have some time to go...
9 Year Member of the CRU-Nation! UMHB National Champions 2016 and 2018

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 03:17:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on December 29, 2016, 03:03:08 PM
I'm just curious.  Considering both teams lost what difference does it make?  Losses are marked in the right hand column regardless.     

That was my premise at the onset of these discussions. And Emma's point is the reason we persist. If you don't want to participate, it's a click away!  8-)

My bad, I thought I was participating by asking the question.   Perhaps there is a good reason to argue the point which hasn't occurred to me. 
"Strange days have found us.  Strange days have tracked us down." .... J. Morrison

wildcat11

Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 02:58:49 PM

Linfield did not have a possession in MHB territory in the second half of the game and had the PR TD in 2nd half.


LIN      3rd L25  15:00  Kickoff      U32  09:43  Downs         11-43   5:17
LIN      3rd L30  08:18  Kickoff       U40  06:13  Interception   5-30   2:05
LIN      3rd L42  01:16  Kickoff       U09  12:57  Missed FG     11-49   3:19#
LIN      4th U00  10:51  Punt          U00  10:51 *TOUCHDOWN      0-0    0:00
LIN      4th L13  06:57  Punt          U45  01:06  Downs         15-42   5:51

All four of the 'Cats possessions in the 2nd half ended in UMHB territory.

USee

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on December 29, 2016, 04:30:56 PM
Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 03:17:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on December 29, 2016, 03:03:08 PM
I'm just curious.  Considering both teams lost what difference does it make?  Losses are marked in the right hand column regardless.     

That was my premise at the onset of these discussions. And Emma's point is the reason we persist. If you don't want to participate, it's a click away!  8-)

My bad, I thought I was participating by asking the question.   Perhaps there is a good reason to argue the point which hasn't occurred to me.

Yes you are! And I am thankful for your participation. Asked and answered

USee

Quote from: wildcat11 on December 29, 2016, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 02:58:49 PM

Linfield did not have a possession in MHB territory in the second half of the game and had the PR TD in 2nd half.


LIN      3rd L25  15:00  Kickoff      U32  09:43  Downs         11-43   5:17
LIN      3rd L30  08:18  Kickoff       U40  06:13  Interception   5-30   2:05
LIN      3rd L42  01:16  Kickoff       U09  12:57  Missed FG     11-49   3:19#
LIN      4th U00  10:51  Punt          U00  10:51 *TOUCHDOWN      0-0    0:00
LIN      4th L13  06:57  Punt          U45  01:06  Downs         15-42   5:51

All four of the 'Cats possessions in the 2nd half ended in UMHB territory.

Remedial reading has never been my strong suit. My apologies to Wildcat fans I read the stats wrong. Fixed.

USee

Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 02:58:49 PM
Emma,

Just so we are looking at facts:

UR was down 28-37 with 5:13 left in the 3rd, had the ball deep in MHB territory (MHB 3--after a 63 yd KO return), with a chance to make it a one score game and was stopped on downs. That was their only possession in MHB territory in the 2nd half.

Wheaton was down 9-17 with 5:24 to go in the 3rd (INT return for TD) Wheaton then had the ball, down 16-31 deep in MHB territory (MHB 15--after an 11 play 66 yd drive), in the mid 4th quarter,  with a chance to make it a one score game and was stopped on downs. Wheaton had the ball 4x in MHB territory in the second half and scored TD's 2x.

Linfield took the 2nd half kick and drove to the MHB 32 with approximately 10 min left in the 3rd, down 13-3, and was stopped on downs. They made it to MHB territory 3 more times in the second half and had the PR TD. 

So Wheaton trailed by 8 pts at the exact same time in the game that UR trailed by 9. Wheaton had 4 chances in MHB territory and UR had 1 in the second half. To say UR had a better chance than Wheaton did  to win the game in the second half is a bit of a stretch.

re-post with correct Linfield info.

wildcat11

Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 06:01:22 PM
Quote from: wildcat11 on December 29, 2016, 04:49:15 PM
Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 02:58:49 PM

Linfield did not have a possession in MHB territory in the second half of the game and had the PR TD in 2nd half.


LIN      3rd L25  15:00  Kickoff      U32  09:43  Downs         11-43   5:17
LIN      3rd L30  08:18  Kickoff       U40  06:13  Interception   5-30   2:05
LIN      3rd L42  01:16  Kickoff       U09  12:57  Missed FG     11-49   3:19#
LIN      4th U00  10:51  Punt          U00  10:51 *TOUCHDOWN      0-0    0:00
LIN      4th L13  06:57  Punt          U45  01:06  Downs         15-42   5:51

All four of the 'Cats possessions in the 2nd half ended in UMHB territory.

Remedial reading has never been my strong suit. My apologies to Wildcat fans I read the stats wrong. Fixed.

Not a big deal...bottom line is we lost to the Champ.  Time to dust off and see if we can build back up to a contender.

D O.C.

While we're enjoying this thread I hope The Champs have picked  their rings and have had their award banquet.
Who you suppose was the MVP?

emma17

Quote from: D O.C. on December 29, 2016, 07:10:16 PM
While we're enjoying this thread I hope The Champs have picked  their rings and have had their award banquet.
Who you suppose was the MVP?

Jackson is a great athlete, but I love Baylor Mullins- I'd go w him if I had a vote.

D O.C.

Both added to our destruction but in absentia, I'd go defense, T. Smith.

USee

Quote from: D O.C. on December 29, 2016, 09:10:26 PM
Both added to our destruction but in absentia, I'd go defense, T. Smith.

Mullins crushed us, Jackson was human but Teidrick was the unblockable monster. #50 is my pick

CalCat

Quote from: USee on December 29, 2016, 09:18:41 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 29, 2016, 09:10:26 PM
Both added to our destruction but in absentia, I'd go defense, T. Smith.

Mullins crushed us, Jackson was human but Teidrick was the unblockable monster. #50 is my pick

Yep...Mullins got us too...twice...l would vote for him.
CalCat

wildcat11

Tedrick was a monster but to me Mullins was the heartbeat of that defense/team.