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Oxy1995

Quote from: Purple Heys on November 02, 2017, 11:40:03 AM
Random thoughts on the Oxy W & P letter:

Once again Oxy turns to Bill Redell - the last time they used him to bail them out, they went 2-7 and he retired again.  Not like coaching blue chips at Oaks Christian.

Just for fun, somebody should ask Mora about playoffs.

No mention of the AD's role in the process.  Wonder if she's resenting a bunch of outsiders about to tell her what to do.

Having evaluated the pads and helmets and determining to buy new, seemingly validates the players' claim of poor equipment within their broader claim of being persecuted by the AD.

Why no mention about getting more tackling robots?
Looks like we had many of the same thoughts.  The final paragraph made me laugh

D O.C.

QuoteWonder if she's resenting a bunch of outsiders about to tell her what to do.
Sociologically speaking: they're all male too. RESIST!

OxyBob

Quote from: Purple Heys on November 02, 2017, 11:40:03 AM
Once again Oxy turns to Bill Redell - the last time they used him to bail them out, they went 2-7 and he retired again.  Not like coaching blue chips at Oaks Christian.

After Doug Semones "retired" I wrote to Bill Redell and suggested he take his phone off the hook before he got a another call from the Oxy AD. Apparently he did not take my advice.

OxyBob

Lets Play Two

 I thought Colleges and University's hired President's and Athletic Directors to make tough decisions regarding their athletic programs, not poll their alumni for answers.  Perhaps all of this could have been avoided had they polled the alumni prior to hiring the current AD???

OxyBob

Quote from: Lets Play Two on November 02, 2017, 01:27:57 PM
I thought Colleges and University's hired President's and Athletic Directors to make tough decisions regarding their athletic programs, not poll their alumni for answers. 

"Let me be clear: Jaime Hoffman has my full support. I believe she has the skills, vision and commitment needed to move us forward." -- Oxy President Jonathan Veitch

The blather Veitch spouted in his letter is all for show. The recruiter, Redell/Mueller/Mora, alumni working group, task force, retreat, and whatever other baloney Veitch has in there will amount to nothing. The football team is dead. This was planned. I predict Oxy will not field a team next season or ever again.

OxyBob

Purple Heys

Quote from: OxyBob on November 02, 2017, 01:44:46 PM
Quote from: Lets Play Two on November 02, 2017, 01:27:57 PM
I thought Colleges and University's hired President's and Athletic Directors to make tough decisions regarding their athletic programs, not poll their alumni for answers. 

"Let me be clear: Jaime Hoffman has my full support. I believe she has the skills, vision and commitment needed to move us forward." -- Oxy President Jonathan Veitch

The blather Veitch spouted in his letter is all for show. The recruiter, Redell/Mueller/Mora, alumni working group, task force, retreat, and whatever other baloney Veitch has in there will amount to nothing. The football team is dead. This was planned. I predict Oxy will not field a team next season or ever again.

OxyBob

All the same...somebody out there, if your kid gets called by Mora...ask him about playoffs.   :D
You can't leave me....all the plants will die.

olddog

Quote from: Jack Parkman on November 02, 2017, 12:55:07 AM
"To stabilize the program we have asked Rob Cushman to stay on as head coach through the end of 2018-19 academic year."


Does that mean this guy left his job in Minnesota to go to Oxy on a one-year guarantee?  This statement reads like there was still a question as to whether or not he would be the coach next year.  Mentioning stability is laughable after this guy being the 4th (that I can remember) coach over the past 10 (or less) years.

They have asked the coach to stay, but does it mean he is going stay? past behavior says no.
Less than two more years of Gavin.

Lets Play Two

OxyBob,

I hope you are wrong, but fear that the writing is on the wall. 

RFB

That letter is a load of BS! I will take them seriously when they fire their male hating AD. Until then Oxy's football program is doomed.

Lets Play Two

Mueller and Mora attended a much different Occidental.  They wouldn't know how to sell the modern day version.  What's their pitch--"For $73K a year, we'll outfit you with 1990's equipment and promise to throw the towel in when the going gets tough".  Where do I sign up....

Oxy1995

Quote from: RFB on November 02, 2017, 02:50:42 PM
That letter is a load of BS! I will take them seriously when they fire their male hating AD. Until then Oxy's football program is doomed.
The letter basically admits that the once proud program has fallen apart.  So why is the AD not held accountable? 

RFB

Quote from: Oxy1995 on November 02, 2017, 03:03:57 PM
Quote from: RFB on November 02, 2017, 02:50:42 PM
That letter is a load of BS! I will take them seriously when they fire their male hating AD. Until then Oxy's football program is doomed.
The letter basically admits that the once proud program has fallen apart.  So why is the AD not held accountable?

Exactly! They are reacting to the symptoms, instead of the cause.

Purple Heys

Quote from: Oxy1995 on November 02, 2017, 03:03:57 PM
Quote from: RFB on November 02, 2017, 02:50:42 PM
That letter is a load of BS! I will take them seriously when they fire their male hating AD. Until then Oxy's football program is doomed.
The letter basically admits that the once proud program has fallen apart.  So why is the AD not held accountable?

They do not see this as a failure to manage by the AD.  Clearly they have affixed blame to the 2016 coach leaving at the last minute as being the catalyst for the resultant chain reaction.  They absolve themselves with the self-congratulatory "we did the best we could, but we had no choice..." screed which is as pathetic as it is disingenuous.
You can't leave me....all the plants will die.

olddog

Everyone's thoughts are great, Does the president think kids and parents can't see thru the BS. Lastly kids today think anyone over 25 is old and wont care an ounce about Oxy Legacy, they care about how many uniforms a team owns. A 30+ year successful head coach makes a mistake an emails past recruits, he gets fired. The AD ruins the program, destroys a sector of the alumni and stays, #irony, #protectionism.

Should tell everyone about the future of Oxy Football.
Less than two more years of Gavin.

Oxy1995

Quote from: olddog on November 02, 2017, 05:19:09 PM
Everyone's thoughts are great, Does the president think kids and parents can't see thru the BS. Lastly kids today think anyone over 25 is old and wont care an ounce about Oxy Legacy, they care about how many uniforms a team owns. A 30+ year successful head coach makes a mistake an emails past recruits, he gets fired. The AD ruins the program, destroys a sector of the alumni and stays, #irony, #protectionism.

Should tell everyone about the future of Oxy Football.
Widolff committed what the NCAA called a minor infraction.  The NCAA banned him from recruiting off campus for a year.  The AD fired him, because she was looking for an excuse.  The AD allows the players to participate with substandard safety equipment, but there is no discipline there.