FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Mr. Ypsi]

The SCIAC has the second lowest admissions rate (behind the NEWMAC - thanks MIT), the fifth highest ACT (behind the LL, SAA, CC, and MWC) and the third highest SAT (behind the LL and MWC)

Most of that low rank is the 1-2 punch of CMS and Pomoma-Pitzer, though.

But....

Despite CMS and PP pulling things up, five playoff teams still had a lower acceptance rate than the 'average' SCIAC school (Hopkins, W&L, CWRU, RPI, and W&J)


Six playoff schools had higher ACT scores (Hopkins, W&L, Case, RPI, Wheaton, Illinois Wesleyan). Those same six had higher SAT scores as well.

Then there's the idea of acceptance rates and test scores being hallmarks of education, anyway. Sometimes there's a disconnect between acceptance rate and the scores.

Whiie Wheaton would have made it to the table once IWU was selected, they, alas, did not get a ticket to dance.

[smedindy]

Derp.

[D O.C.]

Both of you can play for Occidental when they reform, you know.
Fill out the applications, start putting those aid packages together, and... oh yeah, tweet the OC.

[olddog]

The SCIAC has the second lowest admissions rate (behind the NEWMAC - thanks MIT), the fifth highest ACT (behind the LL, SAA, CC, and MWC) and the third highest SAT (behind the LL and MWC)

Most of that low rank is the 1-2 punch of CMS and Pomoma-Pitzer, though.

But....

Despite CMS and PP pulling things up, five playoff teams still had a lower acceptance rate than the 'average' SCIAC school (Hopkins, W&L, CWRU, RPI, and W&J)


Six playoff schools had higher ACT scores (Hopkins, W&L, Case, RPI, Wheaton, Illinois Wesleyan). Those same six had higher SAT scores as well.

Then there's the idea of acceptance rates and test scores being hallmarks of education, anyway. Sometimes there's a disconnect between acceptance rate and the scores.

Whiie Wheaton would have made it to the table once IWU was selected, they, alas, did not get a ticket to dance.

Come on folks, you all are picking one of three major reasons the SCIAC will never routinely be on the national stage and the later of the three prime reasons. The almighty dollar is two of the reasons. Athletic programs do not have the support (I have been to many top 10 D3 programs)  and costs to attend these schools are crazy stupid, especially if you are white and upper middle class.....post away.... Money talks, bs walks. I have sent three kids to these schools, plus others in my family for the last 20 plus years. I love the conference and but a realist.

Admissions to Oxy and CU are tougher than the UC system criteria, and 90%+ of all UR kids would qualify for the UC system if it was not so impacted with foreign students. The only schools that are fairly achievable are Whittier, LV and CLU of which standards are still higher that state system.

Bottom line is these schools are tough for inner city kids to get into and expensive for the suburban kids, not the same formula as MHB or even LF.

[smedindy]

The support I can see, definitely. That's an important factor. Some schools don't support athletics the way others do. They think of it as more of a co curricular activity, like theatre, or writing for the newspaper, than it being elevated to its own level. Of course, some schools elevate theatre and arts to that level instead of athletics.

Yet, the sticker price at many schools is expensive, yes, compared to state schools. I guess what one can do is find schools that are 'need-blind' in admissions, and have an endowment that supports scholarships. Many smaller private schools are tuition dependent, and they won't have wiggle room on financial aid like other schools do. I've seen it where it costs 'nearly' the same to go to a private with good financial aid policies vs. a public.

The UAA research schools, and Hopkins, have such a name cache that athletes who want academic challenges in engineering or medicine will have them among their top choices. "Hey, you're a smart kid wanting to get into engineering or science, and a great left tackle, play of Case!"

About 67% of students everywhere need financial aid the last I saw. Oxy's 56 percent needing financial aid is pretty low from what I see. Oxy claims, though, to offer full financial need.

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-colleges/paying-for-college/articles/2017-09-21/colleges-that-claim-to-meet-full-financial-need

I guess the whole point of this is that if the SCIAC schools chose to, they could become like W&L or some others and not bend their rules to get students in. Each school has its priorities, of course. They have to look at the whole university and decide what gets priority. Having top notch athletics is a plus for many campuses, but so are top notch music and theatre departments, or a place where undergrads can do real research and have immersion opportunities.

I also haven't touched the NESCAC, since we don't know how they line up in football. However, the NESCAC is pretty formidable in other sports, and those schools are hard to get into AND have a high 'sticker' price. But they also have a ton of $$ in their endowments.

[D O.C.]

Theater? Bah, humbug.
You should see Chapman's stand alone film school with two sound stages.

Hopefully, we'll see a full length documentary on one of those Underwear Rums - I mean Runs.

[D O.C.]

Ring!
Ring! Ring!
Ring! Ring! Ring! Ring!
(RFB) Helllo. Sure. What Saturday? Hold on. Coach?

[RFB]

Ring!
Ring! Ring!
Ring! Ring! Ring! Ring!
(RFB) Helllo. Sure. What Saturday? Hold on. Coach?

Phone line is still cut. Communication through morse code only for now.

[CalCat]

Oxy's new helmets for 2018 season tweeted by Oxy Football retweeted by Coach Ostlund


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPwNwwPVoAEsvYC.jpg

[Oxy1995]

Everyone's favorite tweeting Oxy coach has made his account private. Tragic

[Jack Parkman]

Oxy's new helmets for 2018 season tweeted by Oxy Football retweeted by Coach Ostlund


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPwNwwPVoAEsvYC.jpg

Now they just need to find more than 39 heads to fill those.  I do think those are some pretty nice looking helmets.

[(509)Rat]

Really like the matte black. Logo is terrible. It's too small/cluttered to be recognizable from any distance. Something about the graphic/sticker looks cheap too. Don't know if that's just how it looks on the matte or in that lighting, or if it's the print job on the sticker itself. Should just put the block O on each side, it'd be symbolic of the team's chance of winning each game.

I heard Occidental was considering their own palatial stadium to rival UMHB? The orthodOXY temple or something like that?

[olddog]

Oxy's new helmets for 2018 season tweeted by Oxy Football retweeted by Coach Ostlund


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPwNwwPVoAEsvYC.jpg

Now they just need to find more than 39 heads to fill those.  I do think those are some pretty nice looking helmets.

Helmets look like they were chalked up, I don't like them

[CalCat]

Oxy's new helmets for 2018 season tweeted by Oxy Football retweeted by Coach Ostlund


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPwNwwPVoAEsvYC.jpg

Now they just need to find more than 39 heads to fill those.  I do think those are some pretty nice looking helmets.

Helmets look like they were chalked up, I don't like them

I think the helmets look fine but the narrative that Oxy wants is they are going forward and plan on fielding a team next year. The honest goal for next year is to be able recruit and convince current and former players on campus to buy in and I'm sure current head coach is working hard on that. Will they be competitive....probably not but at this point just getting through a season schedule would be progress. They do have some quality guys on campus that chose  not to play this year and l would think it would be critical to get them back.

[OxyBob]

Everyone's favorite tweeting Oxy coach has made his account private. Tragic

I can still read it. No trite cliches or meaningless memes to report.

OxyBob