FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

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10Freeway

How would JC's compete and finish in the SCIAC?  Cal Lutheran was basically a JC team when they had their run.  I would think the good JC's would fair very well.
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olddog

A good JC program has more talent (they will sent 15 to 20 kids to 1A to D3,NAIA) than a good SCIAC school like UR. However players are older and been in system longer so their is an advantage to the four year schools. JC teams vary in level just like D3. I think UR would be north of .500. UR would match up much better than other SCIAC teams because they or CLU usually have the biggest guys up front, so that advantage would not be as great. You need some guys that can plug up the middle in JC or they will run Zone Read to death on you.

I think MHB would have a 90% winning percentage against CA, JC teams...I think MHB would go .500 in D2

Since its a hypothetical conversation, whoever my wife says is better would be the right answer, BTW 
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

D O.C.

Let's keep hypothesizing...how would Redlands do against Mater Dei, olddog?

RFB

Quote from: D O.C. on August 09, 2018, 12:23:07 AM
Let's keep hypothesizing...how would Redlands do against Mater Dei, olddog?

Mater Dei would be a top ten DIII team immediately, possibly top five. Size, speed, and depth across the board with mostly DI scholarship talent.

RFB

Quote from: D O.C. on August 09, 2018, 12:23:07 AM
Let's keep hypothesizing...how would Redlands do against Mater Dei, olddog?

Redlands would get smoked - not even a question to consider.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: RFB on August 09, 2018, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on August 09, 2018, 12:23:07 AM
Let's keep hypothesizing...how would Redlands do against Mater Dei, olddog?

Mater Dei would be a top ten DIII team immediately, possibly top five. Size, speed, and depth across the board with mostly DI scholarship talent.

At 18 years old instead of 22, though. Linfield vs. Mater Dei? Get out of here!
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

RFB

Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 09, 2018, 11:03:03 AM
Quote from: RFB on August 09, 2018, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on August 09, 2018, 12:23:07 AM
Let's keep hypothesizing...how would Redlands do against Mater Dei, olddog?

Mater Dei would be a top ten DIII team immediately, possibly top five. Size, speed, and depth across the board with mostly DI scholarship talent.

At 18 years old instead of 22, though. Linfield vs. Mater Dei? Get out of here!

I watched lasts years 15-0 Mater Dei team (#1 Ranked Nation) multiple times in person and on tv, and they dismantled all comers, including De La Salle 52-21 in the State title game. It was a college team (talent wise) playing HS football. Yes, that team would dismantle Linfield, and St. Thomas, and MHB, and Mt. Union. JT Daniels (QB) would walk into every DIII program day one as the starter, not even debatable. He will start at USC as a true freshmen. You can't teach talent, and MD has it in spades.

Pat Coleman

And what about when they have to come back out on the field for that fifth 12-minute quarter of having older, more experienced guys pounding on them, though?
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

OCguy

The maturity level of a 22 Y.O vs a 18 Y.O is massive. The strength component would also come into play. Even if the HS athlete is a future D1 star a D3 player who has been in a college weight room for at least 2 years will likely be stronger.
Not to mention that even tho Mater Dei is an unbelievable program D3 football is still faster than H.S.

RFB

Quote from: Pat Coleman on August 09, 2018, 04:00:51 PM
And what about when they have to come back out on the field for that fifth 12-minute quarter of having older, more experienced guys pounding on them, though?

They would do just fine, and they are experienced too. The natural talent factor would take over here across the board. Here are a few Mater Dei senior starters (2017) and where they are now playing in college. This does not account for underclassman starters which are all DI scholarship players too, and their 2nd and 3rd stringers which are borderline DI and definitely D2 talent.

JT Daniels - QB - Gatorade National Player of the Year (USC)
Tommy Brown - Tackle - 6'7, 315 (Alabama)
Chris Murray - Guard - 6'3, 300 (UCLA)
Kekani Gonzalez - Center - 6'2, 295 (Boise State)
Mason Kolinchak - Guard - 6'2, 270 (Army)
Amon-Ra St, Brown - WR (USC)
CJ Parks - WR (UCLA)
Nikko Remigio - WR (Cal)
Soloman Tuliaapupu - LB - 6'2, 220 (USC)
Samuela Tuihalamaka - DT - 6'2, 275 (Oregon State)
Andrew Faoliu - DE - 6'3, 255 (Oregon)


D O.C.



olddog

Quote from: RFB on August 09, 2018, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on August 09, 2018, 12:23:07 AM
Let's keep hypothesizing...how would Redlands do against Mater Dei, olddog?

Mater Dei would be a top ten DIII team immediately, possibly top five. Size, speed, and depth across the board with mostly DI scholarship talent.

RFB, I have seen MD the past few years a dozen times in person, I agree with you on talent. I would take UR over MD in a game....Those kids are still kids, I will be down on the field again this year with MD, Their staff is old like me... I know the program very well. I know the their personal very well. They have 23 kids from freshman to seniors with D1 offers. They had 9 junior or senior transfers with D1 offers come in this past winter. I know the team...Will they be much better players than UR's yes, but they are still kids. Those 16 and 17 year olds are not there yet across the board. A game with UR and LF upfront is much more physical...I have been on the field for both. It would be close but my money is on UR, LF etc
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RFB

Quote from: olddog on August 09, 2018, 06:54:59 PM
Quote from: RFB on August 09, 2018, 10:19:19 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on August 09, 2018, 12:23:07 AM
Let's keep hypothesizing...how would Redlands do against Mater Dei, olddog?

Mater Dei would be a top ten DIII team immediately, possibly top five. Size, speed, and depth across the board with mostly DI scholarship talent.

RFB, I have seen MD the past few years a dozen times in person, I agree with you on talent. I would take UR over MD in a game....Those kids are still kids, I will be down on the field again this year with MD, Their staff is old like me... I know the program very well. I know the their personal very well. They have 23 kids from freshman to seniors with D1 offers. They had 9 junior or senior transfers with D1 offers come in this past winter. I know the team...Will they be much better players than UR's yes, but they are still kids. Those 16 and 17 year olds are not there yet across the board. A game with UR and LF upfront is much more physical...I have been on the field for both. It would be close but my money is on UR, LF etc

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