FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Jack Parkman]

The CCAA (D2) announces the suspension of fall 2020 sports.  With this announcement and the notion that schools will remain online in the fall, the SCIAC is going to do the same thing.

https://goccaa.org/news/2020/5/12/general-ccaa-suspends-ncaa-competition-for-fall-2020.aspx

[RFB]

The CCAA (D2) announces the suspension of fall 2020 sports.  With this announcement and the notion that schools will remain online in the fall, the SCIAC is going to do the same thing.

https://goccaa.org/news/2020/5/12/general-ccaa-suspends-ncaa-competition-for-fall-2020.aspx

Agree. Maybe the 2020 football season can be moved to the spring.

[formerd3db]

The CCAA (D2) announces the suspension of fall 2020 sports.  With this announcement and the notion that schools will remain online in the fall, the SCIAC is going to do the same thing.

https://goccaa.org/news/2020/5/12/general-ccaa-suspends-ncaa-competition-for-fall-2020.aspx

Agree. Maybe the 2020 football season can be moved to the spring.

I want to see a football season this year also as much as you and all our colleagues. However, I do not see how that (having it in the spring) can realistically happen. Most schools simply do not have enough training staff, support staff, or the luxury of multiple stadiums to accommodate simultaneous seasons for all the spring sports and football? And what then about the other fall sports? Soccer, volleyball, cross country? If you allow football in the spring, you would need to allow those sports to do the same. Scheduling would be a nightmare, even if it was only football.  JMO, however, I just do not see that scenario as an option anywhere, whether it is in high school or college.

[olddog]

It looks like in CA, State workers are back to their old game plan of doing as little as possible, excuses blah blah. How the UC and CSU decided this early to cancel all classes amazes me versus doing planning for both, but that is a little extra work they did not sign up for, soon high schools will follow over the next month.

This means the Big West will most likely go the route of the CCAA and will Cal, SDSU, and UCLA...follow. The southern schools are planning for football. The NCAA will need to pull the trigger on what is going to happen by July 15.

In general I think sports in CA (youth, adult, HS, and College)  are doomed until a vaccine, Expect huge cuts in sporting programs, recruiting will be a mess, and huge tax increases.

On a side bar read up about Taiwan or Sweden...they did not ruin their lives but stayed safe. Kids went to school after a couple weeks....

[OCguy]

On a side bar read up about Taiwan or Sweden...they did not ruin their lives but stayed safe. Kids went to school after a couple weeks....
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Well wouldn't you know it. Both of those Countries have universal healthcare. Sounds like a solid idea to me but what do I know?

[MUC57]

On a side bar read up about Taiwan or Sweden...they did not ruin their lives but stayed safe. Kids went to school after a couple weeks....

Well wouldn't you know it. Both of those Countries have universal healthcare. Sounds like a solid idea to me but what do I know?
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OCguy

Better be prepared to duck! You may start a real firestorm. But, what do I know? Stay well! 😷

[Gray Fox]

On a side bar read up about Taiwan or Sweden...they did not ruin their lives but stayed safe. Kids went to school after a couple weeks....

Well wouldn't you know it. Both of those Countries have universal healthcare. Sounds like a solid idea to me but what do I know?

OCguy

Better be prepared to duck! You may start a real firestorm. But, what do I know? Stay well! 😷
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Or our thread will be put on lock down again.

[olddog]

On a side bar read up about Taiwan or Sweden...they did not ruin their lives but stayed safe. Kids went to school after a couple weeks....

Well wouldn't you know it. Both of those Countries have universal healthcare. Sounds like a solid idea to me but what do I know?
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I am not sure how universal heath care relates to the leaders decisions. Taiwan is not a member of WHO and has dealt with virus in the past, so they based their criteria on past experience, and Swedes based their housing types and ease to distance. The bottom line is they did not destroy their economy, and Taiwan death rate is very low.

[jknezek]

On a side bar read up about Taiwan or Sweden...they did not ruin their lives but stayed safe. Kids went to school after a couple weeks....

Well wouldn't you know it. Both of those Countries have universal healthcare. Sounds like a solid idea to me but what do I know?

I am not sure how universal heath care relates to the leaders decisions. Taiwan is not a member of WHO and has dealt with virus in the past, so they based their criteria on past experience, and Swedes based their housing types and ease to distance. The bottom line is they did not destroy their economy, and Taiwan death rate is very low.
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This is a fairly balanced piece on Sweden, both the good and the bad. In the end, we still don't know but they are likely to have a similar economic drop off by the end of the year as other Scandinavian economies, just based on the connective nature of world trade, and they are running at significantly more deaths per million than their contemporaries. While people who are against the lock down point to Sweden as some roaring success, it's at best only partially true. They may do better economically and worse in deaths/1000, and that is simply the trade off they made. If you are willing to accept that trade off, you will believe it was a good choice. Otherwise it looks like a bad one. Time will tell.

https://www.ft.com/content/93105160-dcb4-4721-9e58-a7b262cd4b6e

[jamtod]

I am not sure how universal heath care relates to the leaders decisions. Taiwan is not a member of WHO and has dealt with virus in the past, so they based their criteria on past experience, and Swedes based their housing types and ease to distance. The bottom line is they did not destroy their economy, and Taiwan death rate is very low.

This is a fairly balanced piece on Sweden, both the good and the bad. In the end, we still don't know but they are likely to have a similar economic drop off by the end of the year as other Scandinavian economies, just based on the connective nature of world trade, and they are running at significantly more deaths per million than their contemporaries. While people who are against the lock down point to Sweden as some roaring success, it's at best only partially true. They may do better economically and worse in deaths/1000, and that is simply the trade off they made. If you are willing to accept that trade off, you will believe it was a good choice. Otherwise it looks like a bad one. Time will tell.

https://www.ft.com/content/93105160-dcb4-4721-9e58-a7b262cd4b6e

Also entirely possible Sweden ends up with fewer or similar deaths per capita in the long run, which still might not mean they were better off than us. Too early to tell on the data and too many conflating factors including health systems, general well-being, and population density and demographics. We can be sure that everyone will interpret the data in whatever way is most compelling for their prior assumptions though :-)

Likewise, they might take a worse economic hit because much of what gets blamed on "lockdowns" is really just a function of global pandemic, death, and some degree of founded fear.

[MUC57]

OCguy

I told you so!     

[OCguy]

I'm just here for the fun!

[MUC57]

I'm just here for the fun!

Me too. A +K for ya! Stay safe.

[RFB]

USC is increasing tuition 3.5 percent. What a bunch of clowns in charge over there.

[formerd3db]

As I am one of those guys who is in the medical field, don't even get me started on the universal health care discussion/debate. Besides, I don't want to get Pat mad at me so that is another reason why I will refrain from any further comment on your recent thread here.