FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[RFBredux]

College football in California has been wilting on the vine for a long time. USC and UCLA have abandoned the P12 for the B10. Stanford and Cal are struggling, and their conference futures don't look good at all.

That leaves Fresno State, San Diego State, Sacramento State, UC Davis, and University of San Diego at the D1 level, and three of them compete at the D1AA level. All of them are afterthoughts in the era of the transfer portal and NIL.

The graveyard of California college football programs is deep, and the SCIAC schools will be joining them in the near future.

[Dr. Doolittle]

College football in California has been wilting on the vine for a long time. USC and UCLA have abandoned the P12 for the B10. Stanford and Cal are struggling, and their conference futures don't look good at all.

That leaves Fresno State, San Diego State, Sacramento State, UC Davis, and University of San Diego at the D1 level, and three of them compete at the D1AA level. All of them are afterthoughts in the era of the transfer portal and NIL.

The graveyard of California college football programs is deep, and the SCIAC schools will be joining them in the near future.

So true and sad to say.  Perhaps 5 teams from the SCIAC (Redlands, PP, CMS, Chapman and CLU) can merge with the NWC as discussed previously?  I hope the SCIAC does not fold!

[Pat Coleman]

I mean this in all seriousness: The NWC, SCIAC and ASC should all combine for football so that the NCAA can't force the football committee to match them up in the first round of the playoffs.

[Gray Fox]

I mean this in all seriousness: The NWC, SCIAC and ASC should all combine for football so that the NCAA can't force the football committee to match them up in the first round of the playoffs.

Good idea.

[wildcat11]

Honestly, it would probably be better for the NWC schools to go back to the NAIA with the Frontier Conference being so close regionally.

[RFBredux]

Honestly, it would probably be better for the NWC schools to go back to the NAIA with the Frontier Conference being so close regionally.

I agree. Also, Simpson University (Redding, CA) is NAIA and has started up their football program. Coach was recently hired, and they will play a full schedule in 2024. They are close enough in proximity to NWC schools in Oregon and the Frontier Conference.

[wildcat11]

Yup, with EOU/SOU, the Montana Schools, and Simpson in NorCal, they would make a perfect partner but there is no chance in hell the presidents in the NWC would be willing to leave the "NCAA" for a partial scholarship org.

I really wouldn't mind going back but know it's not happening.

[RFBredux]

Yup, with EOU/SOU, the Montana Schools, and Simpson in NorCal, they would make a perfect partner but there is no chance in hell the presidents in the NWC would be willing to leave the "NCAA" for a partial scholarship org.

I really wouldn't mind going back but know it's not happening.

It will be interesting to see what the small college football landscape looks like five years from now on the West coast. I hope the SCIAC survives, but it's not looking good long term.

[10Freeway]

Very shaky landscape for our beloved SCIAC football.  Southern California D3 Football has become a burden for the institutions, the NCAA and now families as tuition balloons with no end in sight.  These schools love seeing their own price tags escalate, but do not understand economics at all.  They are pricing themselves out of the market.  Families incomes are not keeping pace.

[Jack Parkman]

Curious if anyone will explore a move to D2? Of course, if that happened, football would be eliminated and that doesn't seem like a good idea as the male enrollment would go down. Obviously it's pure speculation that football in the SCIAC could be in trouble, but the way things have gone over the past 5 years, it sure doesn't look good.

[Gray Fox]

I remember when the Pomona president tried to go to the NESCAC model (8 games and not every SCIAC team).  They were reeled back in.  I also remember when CMS almost failed because not enough players or such.  They also were reeled back.  It seems Whittier looks done, but Oxy still can compete with PP and CMS students if they so choose.  They might be reeled back also IF they can overcome the many demons they have created internally.

[olddog]

Redlands is really pushing to gain more local kids that do not have to live on campus. I am guessing they are more profitable and with how expensive college is today a niche to go after. They has some pretty good financial programs that make their cost very competitive with State and UC Schools....

In CA we have some artificial reason college is so expensive. Our UC's decided to take more out of state and foreign kids because they were a profit center, so many middle class kids/parent were forced to send kids to a private school or to a lessor state college. The small college of course prices to market, hence hype inflation in college cost.

It all goes with my statements about this state. Socialism does not understand simple economics....then they wonder why there is shortage and its expensive. 

[Ralph Turner]

I mean this in all seriousness: The NWC, SCIAC and ASC should all combine for football so that the NCAA can't force the football committee to match them up in the first round of the playoffs.

I seriously value your thoughts on the mechanism by which this would work.

Thank you. (Maybe in a podcast?)

[olddog]

There is a second NAIA school playing football out of Oakland CA too

Their first year they might have played a NWC team or that Lewis Clark JC team 

https://athletics.lincolnuca.edu/mens-football-schedule/

[wally_wabash]

I mean this in all seriousness: The NWC, SCIAC and ASC should all combine for football so that the NCAA can't force the football committee to match them up in the first round of the playoffs.

I seriously value your thoughts on the mechanism by which this would work.

Thank you. (Maybe in a podcast?)

Teams in the same conference can't be matched up in the first round by rule. If NWC/SCIAC/ASC are all one conference, those teams wouldn't play each other.  Of course, that entire group would only receive one AQ, so there's the trade off.