FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Gray Fox]

The problem with Liberal Arts schools is that they have a bunch of educators trying to run a business.  The only reason government schools survive like this is they have our tax money.  LA schools need tuition dollars.  They do not understand how to manage a business.  Does UR still have buildings without AC?

Wasn't the lady running Whittier a business person.?

[olddog]

About 30 years ago Chapman had a financial problem, brought in a business counsel led by Argos and wella...one of the better schools on the west coast. I wonder if any schools will attempt this move since it worked, or just go woke and broke?

One of the things Chapman did was start a film school with a high reputation.  My little cousin here in Dallas had it as her dream school because she wants to make movies.  I think she is going to settle for Emerson in Boston.

The Journalism School expanded due to demand and opportunity because business decisions were made by business people, far from what leads schools today.
When Dr. D said mention the commencement speeches/topics at CLU, I would have been what a waste of time and money I just paid the school. The biggest social problem in America is not being woke enough and worrying about the last 2.5 percent, its single parent households, but it wont get likes on Tic Tok. So if you want to make an easy difference in this world make it a priority to raise your kids in a two parent home. Stats back me up 100 fold, and you don't have to throw money at it.

[jknezek]

About 30 years ago Chapman had a financial problem, brought in a business counsel led by Argos and wella...one of the better schools on the west coast. I wonder if any schools will attempt this move since it worked, or just go woke and broke?

One of the things Chapman did was start a film school with a high reputation.  My little cousin here in Dallas had it as her dream school because she wants to make movies.  I think she is going to settle for Emerson in Boston.

The Journalism School expanded due to demand and opportunity because business decisions were made by business people, far from what leads schools today.
When Dr. D said mention the commencement speeches/topics at CLU, I would have been what a waste of time and money I just paid the school. The biggest social problem in America is not being woke enough and worrying about the last 2.5 percent, its single parent households, but it wont get likes on Tic Tok. So if you want to make an easy difference in this world make it a priority to raise your kids in a two parent home. Stats back me up 100 fold, and you don't have to throw money at it.

Well lucky for us, the divorce rate in the U.S. has been trending down since 1980. Unfortunately single parent households have been basically steady for the last 15 years, at 150% the level we saw in 1980. But I doubt either of these issues can be significantly helped or hurt by a liberal arts education.

[Dr. Doolittle]

About 30 years ago Chapman had a financial problem, brought in a business counsel led by Argos and wella...one of the better schools on the west coast. I wonder if any schools will attempt this move since it worked, or just go woke and broke?

One of the things Chapman did was start a film school with a high reputation.  My little cousin here in Dallas had it as her dream school because she wants to make movies.  I think she is going to settle for Emerson in Boston.

The Journalism School expanded due to demand and opportunity because business decisions were made by business people, far from what leads schools today.
When Dr. D said mention the commencement speeches/topics at CLU, I would have been what a waste of time and money I just paid the school. The biggest social problem in America is not being woke enough and worrying about the last 2.5 percent, its single parent households, but it wont get likes on Tic Tok. So if you want to make an easy difference in this world make it a priority to raise your kids in a two parent home. Stats back me up 100 fold, and you don't have to throw money at it.

Old dog is not kidding because those thoughts did cross my mind during the commencement ceremony, but fortunately, my boy is a hard worker and already has a job with the LA Rams.  On the other hand, the LA Rams organization is big on inclusion and equity?  The Theatre/drama school was at Chapman long before my arrive in "86.

[olddog]

About 30 years ago Chapman had a financial problem, brought in a business counsel led by Argos and wella...one of the better schools on the west coast. I wonder if any schools will attempt this move since it worked, or just go woke and broke?

One of the things Chapman did was start a film school with a high reputation.  My little cousin here in Dallas had it as her dream school because she wants to make movies.  I think she is going to settle for Emerson in Boston.

The Journalism School expanded due to demand and opportunity because business decisions were made by business people, far from what leads schools today.
When Dr. D said mention the commencement speeches/topics at CLU, I would have been what a waste of time and money I just paid the school. The biggest social problem in America is not being woke enough and worrying about the last 2.5 percent, its single parent households, but it wont get likes on Tic Tok. So if you want to make an easy difference in this world make it a priority to raise your kids in a two parent home. Stats back me up 100 fold, and you don't have to throw money at it.

Well lucky for us, the divorce rate in the U.S. has been trending down since 1980. Unfortunately single parent households have been basically steady for the last 15 years, at 150% the level we saw in 1980. But I doubt either of these issues can be significantly helped or hurt by a liberal arts education.

Not my point Jaz, from our President down, and now that is the season to be full of Sh...t ...with graduations....Number one issue facing America is single parent households. Not the 2.5 percent needing clicks, not white males, not traditions ...its single parent households....Ask any teacher

We are in an era where personal responsibility is at an all time low, but blaming is at an all time High....Tic Tok ...sometimes Old Men are right too...

[OzJohnnie]

 Olddog, I reckon I would really enjoy an afternoon chat with you over a cold brew or two.

[Gray Fox]

Olddog, I reckon I would really enjoy an afternoon chat with you over a cold brew or two.

You can meet him halfway in Hawaii.

[OzJohnnie]

Olddog, I reckon I would really enjoy an afternoon chat with you over a cold brew or two.

You can meet him halfway in Hawaii.

I would be surprised if olddog had ever met anyone half way. 

[olddog]

Your perceptions of me are not far off...

Scary

[Gray Fox]

Your perceptions of me are not far off...

Scary

Plus K for honesty.

[Dr. Doolittle]

About 30 years ago Chapman had a financial problem, brought in a business counsel led by Argos and wella...one of the better schools on the west coast. I wonder if any schools will attempt this move since it worked, or just go woke and broke?

One of the things Chapman did was start a film school with a high reputation.  My little cousin here in Dallas had it as her dream school because she wants to make movies.  I think she is going to settle for Emerson in Boston.

The Journalism School expanded due to demand and opportunity because business decisions were made by business people, far from what leads schools today.
When Dr. D said mention the commencement speeches/topics at CLU, I would have been what a waste of time and money I just paid the school. The biggest social problem in America is not being woke enough and worrying about the last 2.5 percent, its single parent households, but it wont get likes on Tic Tok. So if you want to make an easy difference in this world make it a priority to raise your kids in a two parent home. Stats back me up 100 fold, and you don't have to throw money at it.

Well lucky for us, the divorce rate in the U.S. has been trending down since 1980. Unfortunately single parent households have been basically steady for the last 15 years, at 150% the level we saw in 1980. But I doubt either of these issues can be significantly helped or hurt by a liberal arts education.

Not my point Jaz, from our President down, and now that is the season to be full of Sh...t ...with graduations....Number one issue facing America is single parent households. Not the 2.5 percent needing clicks, not white males, not traditions ...its single parent households....Ask any teacher

We are in an era where personal responsibility is at an all time low, but blaming is at an all time High....Tic Tok ...sometimes Old Men are right too...

I agree that single parent homes and the lack of a male role model is plaguing American youth today.  It is a reflection of going away from traditional family, church and country, to government for everything.  No more individual felling of accomplishment for a good job, just show me the money while I do nothing to deserve it.  I recently had an applicant for a position at my work who's qualifications were "full-time protester"?  WT???

[olddog]

Here we go....

MBA working for me with less than 2 years experience, I should be making 150k given my degree. Old Dog...if you think someone going pay you that right now then go. What makes you think you deserve 150k, "I have an MBA"...yes but I have guys without degrees that are more qualified to run jobs than you ? do you agree, yes they have experience....Now after that degree he never learned it what you can do for the business that brings value. Follow up, after two more years later someone hired him for 146k, I did not have the opening he wanted and was ready for, I wished him best of luck and still mentor. Happy for him. BTW ex football player and he did not melt when I got on him.

Favorite line from one of my 27 year old engineers, that is not "Fair"....almost everyday....This is business, its not about "Fair"....where in the hell did they get this "Fair" concept? Non football player...BTW

If one of these young people text or call and I do not get back to them, they get butt hurt....love to tell them I was doing something more important when they say I called you and half hour ago!!!

[Gray Fox]

olddog,

Maybe helicopter parents have something to do with it.

[jknezek]

I think it's mostly that every generation throughout time has complained that the following generation has gotten soft.

https://www.insidehook.com/daily_brief/history/older-generations-kids-too-soft

And it's not that I don't think this way myself sometimes, it's just that this has been going on for thousands of years. There are ancient quotes that do it, quotes from the Roman Empire, the Dark Ages, the Renaissance... tons of examples from the industrial revolution. Most of our worker safety rules, child labor laws, and work weeks were roundly derided by older generations. Especially those with money. Depression era kids mocked Boomers, Boomers mock Gen X, Gen X mocks Gen Y, Gen Y mocks Gen Z and so on.

Honestly, every one of us on this board belong to a generation that was accused of being softer, weaker, less capable, sadder, more destructive to society, less productive, and generally more disrespectful by a previous generation.

The engineer Old Dog is mocking above will do the same when he or she is in Old Dog's role twenty, thirty, forty years down the line dealing with a younger subordinate.

[olddog]

JKN...I get your points....you are not off. However this softening  has accelerated. Kids that grew up in the late 50's to late 70's...the delta was not as great as today's kids.
Even kids that grew up 1980 to 1999...understand your stance...despite the start of participation trophy era, everyone passes, and we can not hurt your feelings.
Now we have people pretending that XX and XY chromosome do not exist anymore, you can make up your own...so ya were getting soft fast. It's not just the US its the world.