FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[CalLuKngsmn1]

Cal Lu wins an ugly game 35-10 down in Whittier. The Poets would be nowhere if it werent for their QB. He had to do everything tonight. With penalty flags flying and whistles blowing the game wasnt a sight to see. Cal Lu came up with some big plays at times but had also shot themselves in the foot with stupid penalties and missed assignments. The Cal Lu-D did a good job of shutting down the Poets the mojority of the night with a couple of picks and quite a few sacks they stood their ground. The offense got off to a great start with 60+ yard scoring drive that ended with a wide open Brandyn Bennet in the end-zone.

Good to see that Redlands hung in there with the big cats tonight. Looks like the game to see is going to be the Kingsmen and the Tigers at Mt Clef stadium in a couple of weeks.

[dawg gone it]

After 4 cups of coffe on the way home.....I couldnt sleep so I thought Id share my thoughts on the BIG GAME.  Congrats to the Tigers on a tough fought win.

The dawg defense is outstanding and did a great job of keeping Collins and company in check all night, they certianly deserve a pat on the back.  The offense looked better tonight but has to score more than 1 td per game to win.

Ive now seen two top 25 teams, Whitworth and Oxy.....

Whitworth is bigger, stronger and much more physical and a much better team IMO.  I dont understand why they are well below Oxy rankings.  I am not slighting Oxy by any means, they are a good team...Whitworth is better.  Oxy's only edge is Collins and the Whitworth qb is also pretty darn good.

I think the dawgs will win out, including CLU, especially if they continue to improve offensivley.  

The dawgs have nothign to be ashamed of they played a great game.  They played with heart, pride and intensity.  I was proud to be a dawgs fan tonight.  

Oxy didnt have many fans at the game tonight.....was that a normal crowd for an away game?  

Congrats to Oxy again......and GO DAWGS.

[El Tigre]

Well just got back from a great game at Redlands.  I do enjoy their stadium even though this was the first time I have ever had the privilege of sitting in the stands.  Both teams really came to play tonight like they do every year.  I had to sit there and calm eye down because he was getting so nervous.  I will have to agree with Saber in that Mr. Winchell had a great game.  Also, Oxy offense was moving the ball relatively well, but I think they need to work on becoming more consistent.  The running game was carried on the back of Matt Anderson.  Good luck to Redlands on the rest of the season.  Oxy needs to keep working because it seems that Cal Lu is nipping at oxy's heals more and more as the season progresses.  Seems like the next big game to watch is going to be the oxy Cal Lu game in a couple of weeks. 

[El Tigre]

Oxy didnt have many fans at the game tonight.....was that a normal crowd for an away game?  

Oxy's crowd for oxy was very thin, but this is usually do to the fact that most students don't want to waste half their night driving to and from Redlands.  The same goes for Cal Lu.  You only saw the parents and family of the players and their die-hard fans.   As far as crowds go I will agree with Bob that the turn out of the Redlands fan was surprising at the least.  The last two times I played there they had a packed house with students cramming into the end zones.  I understand that Redlands was 0-3 going into the game, but wow!   

[redlandsfan]

About the amount of Redlands fans who were present at the game...I believe it was fall break, and all the students were off campus, which usually hurts attendance.

I am going to agree with Mr. Wabby, Whitworth is a much stronger team than Oxy.  I have followed Oxy for 6 seasons now, 2 as a player, and 4 as a fan, and there was something different.  In the past Oxy had what we would call, "grown men out there," and now their size is way down.  Good speed, but in the past both lines were big and physcial.  I believe that Redlands was the more physcial team tonight.  With that said Oxy pulled it out, but looked a bit sloppy.

The offense was more aggressive tonight from Redlands.  Keep in mind play #1 after Oxy scored in a handful of plays was a fade down the left sideline....perfect throw by the qb, and the wr dropped it.  Would have been 7-7.

Anyway, the defense looked impressive, not sure about the stats yet, but overall they played well. 

Good luck to Oxy in the upcoming weeks!

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Whitworth is bigger, stronger and much more physical and a much better team IMO.  I dont understand why they are well below Oxy rankings.

DGI,

Coming into this week, Oxy was ranked 11th and Whitworth 14th.  I don't think that's "well below" . . . given the size of DIII, that's what we used to call an "RCH"  (If you don't know what that is, I'll explain in a pm).  I think that the minor difference is based on Oxy's performance over the last two years and Andy Collins.  Moreover, Whitworth beat Redlands 28-3, Oxy 24-10 . . . Whitworth's differential is better than Oxy's, so the difference is an Oxy field goal to a Whitworth touchdown, and a single TD by Redlands.  I don't see a huge difference proven there.  The Oxy secondary seems to have work to do though, at least as far as I could tell from listening as I haven't seen them since CC.  That'll be an important factor against Cal Lu (imho).

At any rate, given that # 12 MHB beat # 5 Hardin Simmons, I would not be at all suprised to find MHB move up, pushing Oxy down to 12th with Whitworth remaining static.  Guess we'll see later today.

And yes, looking from the stands, the Tigers don't look as big to me as they did two years ago . . . but I seem to remember being in the stands at the Willamette game thinking that the boys from up north were a lot bigger . . . and the Tigers got the job done . . .

But enough of this foolishness, the only team that matters between today and next Saturday is LaVerne.

Eat'em up Tigers

tooth

[Browneagle64]

Way to go for Redlands defense last night.

To all that kept the board updated with the scores and run down of the game, thanks a bunch. (tooth, RFB etc.)

As a sat at Dodger stadium last night, I could now understand how it feels to have your back against the wall and giving it your all to pull out a win. Redlands defense tried its best to pull out of this mess but couldn't handle the game all by themselves. Great job to them for keeping the game close.

Awesome job for the Oxy youngerster and Vets for coming out and understanding that this wouldn't be an easy win. Surely, this was another huge step in getting ready to take on another SCIAC team that will be aiming to pull them off track.

Quick note, nice win for Cal Lu against those fighting poets. Good job to La Verne in taking one away from the Sagehens as well 

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Just to show that anything can happen on any given Saturday, the report from the L.A. Times is as follows:

Claremont 28 - Chapman 21

As has been said many times, guess that's why they play the games . . .

And BE, you're welcome . . . had to take care of the boy with a wife sick in bed (as previously noted and a condition shared by RFB) that kept us on the electronic field rather than at the game . . . so it was nice to feel the action, albeit in a slightly different manner.  Don't think I can make another game until Cal Lu . . . and I'll probably be late for that one.

tooth

[dawg gone it]

This board is different from others. I mean that in a good way.

The games are just as intense, the fans just as devoted the rivalries are just as big as on other boards yet, the camaraderie of the SCIAC fans is tremendous.

Many other boards have a nasty exchange of words after a
big game.  This one doesn't.  It is very refreshing.  When I woke up this morning and got on the board I thought to myself that I would cringe when I read some of the, I told you so type comments.  There are none.  My hat is off to the posters on this board for that.

The dawgs were more aggressive on offense and I think that helped them tremendously.

I love to see a good balanced attack between air and ground and watch the defense have to guess what is coming next.  The dawgs are going in that direction.

GOOD LUCK DAWGS....keep your heads up, you played a great game.

[dawg gone it]

I forgot to put a p.s on my last post.........but then there is Bob.

[DawgFan1]

Sabretooth Tiger said:

>>Well done Tigers . . . hope that we learn and grow from this for the Cal Lu game<<

Eyewitness report:

Beautiful clear, cool evening in Redlands. Super turnout by the Oxy fans, while the Redlands side was thinner than usual, due possibly to their 0-3 record. The Tigers' defense played awesomely. Oxy completely shut Redlands out in the first half, and only gave up a semi-flukey TD in the 3rd quarter on a play where the QB threw the ball up while being sacked and it went into the arms of the TE cutting over the middle. After Redlands tied the game up 10-10, the coaches chewed on some ears, Oxy's defense took over and the Bulldogs got nothing else.

Oxy's offense sputtered but in the end it got the job done. The Tigers had chances to score but kept Redlands in the game in the first half by not punching it into the end zone. Andy Collins did not look sharp for Oxy, and some of that was due to Redlands pestering him in the backfield.

I can see why some of the Redlands fans are critical of Bill O'Boyle. The Redlands offense seems limited. When the Bulldogs move the ball at all it's on the ground with Saras and Schafer, yet twice when Redlands got to about the Oxy 20 they started passing, which is definitely not their strong suit. Made no sense to us in the stands. Redlands also employed some very questionable clock management in the 4th quarter when they were only down a touchdown and still had all of their timeouts.

Good road win for the Tigers. Scouts for La Verne and Pomona were there taking notes. If the CLU guys were there they were hiding.

OxyBob

Oxybob: The little "semi-flukey TD" was a tight-end screen to counteract the blitz and worked as designed. Lots of dropped passes by Redlands last night. Their 1st play of the game, a 60 yarder thrown on the the money to the WR would have been 6 points had it not gone threw his hands. Redlands "D" shut down Oxy a good part of the game. Oxy broke a few large "key" plays that made the difference. Oxy's receivers did a much better job than Redlands.

Congrats on Oxy's win.

[scandihoovian]

Just a couple thoughts on the CLU-Whittier game:

Not pretty, but the Kingsmen got the job done.  I was very impressed with the CLU defense, which came up big when it needed to.  Whittier's lone TD came on a run by QB Scurlock who vaulted what appeared to be the entire CLU linebacking corps to get into the end zone.  I would love to have video of that play to share with the board...

Whittier absolutely killed themselves with penalties.  They had one TD called back because Scurlock was across the line of scrimmage.  Another big play came back because of a crack back block.  Now that I've seen the Poets I'll be interested to see what they do with the rest of the conference teams.  I am very much in agreement with CalLuKngsmn1 that without Scurlock they'd really struggle offensively.

Claremont had a nice win over Chapman - tough to figure out who the Stags are this year 

[dawg gone it]

Dawg fan,

Bob sees things differently than most.  Everone that saw the game would have to agree with your assesment.  Who know what would have happend if the dawgs would have gone up 7-0?  

Oxy made some big plays on offense that were the difference.  The one PI call in the 2nd quarter in the end zone on 4th down was very questionable.  That ended up costing UR 3 points on a fg .  There were calls both ways that were questionable but that one hurt.

Oxy's #2 is a very good rb.  Collins is obviously very good but the UR defense bothered him all night.  If any team Oxy plays had a choice to give him the stats he had last night before the game starts, or take their chances....well that would be a no brainer.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Oxy completely shut Redlands out in the first half, and only gave up a semi-flukey TD in the 3rd quarter on a play where the QB threw the ball up while being sacked and it went into the arms of the TE cutting over the middle.

Gotta say that even though I was sitting at home listening to the broadcast, I could in no way call that play a fluke.  The Redlands O in the third quarter marched through the Oxy D like Sherman through Georgia only to be denied.  On that particular play, the announcers discussed how Oxy's D on third down many times brings everyone but the kitchen sink (my words, not theirs') . . . and I could see it all in my mind's eye.  Having the QB hit the TE coming across the middle against that defense is a great call (imho) and one of the dangers that Oxy faces in making that tactical call.  It paid off for the Bulldogs.  I didn't perceive anything flukely about it from my vantage point in front of the computer . . . 

Glad to see coach Maynard giving Oxy props. [Edit caveat:  Now that I read the link supplied by Bob, it is clear that Maynard's  quote was offered in advance of the game last night, I wonder what he'd have to say this morning?] If the Tigers manage to keep on track and run the board, I imagine that we could end up hosting Linfield or Whitworth in the first round of the playoffs . . . that's when we'll be able to figure out the better team.

cheers,

tooth

[dawg gone it]

Bob,

I never said the game was decided by the refs, and I did say that there were questionable calls, BOTH WAYS.  The PI call in the second quarter was.....as I said before....questionable......I also never said it decided the game......

What I did say is that it resulted in Oxy not turning te ball over on downs and instead got a FG out of it. 

I also said and I repeat...because you seem to have a problem comprehending the first time that I post something...Oxy made big plays on offense and ...THAT.... was the difference in the game.  Please, dont  misinterpret my post and please....dont post inferences that I certainly didnt make.

and as I said before...then there is Bob.