FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[coco]

Tooth,

You crack me up. You are like the policeman here. Don't ever leave.

[Gray Fox]

Sabretooth Tiger:

>>I think the more erudite refer to it as "Roshambo", perhaps from the French "Rochembeau"<<

Wow, the World RPS Society would be impressed.

Kramer and Mickey: Rock, paper, scissors, match!
Mickey: All right, rock beats paper! <smack!>
Kramer: I thought paper covered rock?
Mickey: Nah, rock flies right through paper.
Kramer: What beats rock?
Mickey: <looks at hand> Nothing beats rock.
Kramer: All right, come on.
Kramer and Mickey: Rock, paper, scissors, match!
Kramer: Rock.
Mickey: Rock.
Kramer and Mickey: Rock, paper, scissors, match!
Kramer: Rock.
Mickey: Rock.

OxyBob

No wonder the team from "The Rock" does so well!

[dawg gone it]

OK Redlands......by now you have your game plan in place, Im sure it will be a good one.  Come out and play like you did against Oxy and you will start a win streak and build back your confidence.

I would really love for them to finish the season  strong and build momnetum for next year. 

GO BULLDOGS......GO DEEP....dawg gone it.

[tigersports]

I'd be happy to broadcast the OB-DGI Smackdown

[Sabretooth Tiger]

Tooth,

You crack me up. You are like the policeman here. Don't ever leave.

Why that's the nicest thing anyone from the NWC has ever said to me!  Of course, while I've been called many things in my years, I don't think that I've ever been called accused of being a  "policemen"and I won't digress into tales of my days doing criminal defense work . . . 

Thanks coco, good luck to the the 'Cats this weekend.  Looking for two Pool B bids from the NWC so that Oxy, oops I mean the SCIAC champ gets to host the NWC #2 in round 1.   

tooth

[scandihoovian]

Why tooth, such clever use of the strikethrough font so early in the morning    On behalf of CLU fans everywhere I'd like to strongly encourage the Tigers to start looking ahead to the playoffs 

[CRZK]

Now that the board has settled down a little bit and a doesn't sound like Vince MacMahon and the ECW crowd, thought I would weigh in on the upcoming weekend.

UR-PP.  If turnovers don't strike the Dawgs then UR gets its first win of the season.  PP leads the conference in t/o ratio.  Dawgs by 3 in another defensive game.  17-14

Oxy-LaVerne:  Sure LaVerne will come tough but Oxy should remain focused.  Another good test for Oxy pass defense but Oxy DL and LB's have another day of QB hurries and tackles for loss.  40-21, maybe 34-21.

CalLu-CMS.  Sorry ECS, close but no cigar.  21-14,  could be best game to watch this weekend.

Chap-Whittier:  Poets get the W!!  Not

[EastCoastStag]

CRZK,

Dawgs by more: 27-10. PP just can't keep up with a pissed off UoR

Oxy by more: 40-17. Sorry, regardless of last year, just don't think LaVerne has it in them.

CMS... I'll shoot for there being less than a 7 point difference.
As always, luck and breaks will help out in big games. All that "our house $hit" doesn't. They better be focused and quietly intense. Who knows once it starts, but if they can stay under 7, there is always hope. That all being said, we are the underdogs for sure. Surprised someone (besides me) is willing to take such a small spread. Nice to have a quasi vote of confidence.

Now as for the comment made about CMS having a chance to be #2... even as a fan I can't go with that. Regardless of outcome against CLU, I don't think they are there yet. A good year would be a 6-3 finishing third. As far as I am concerned, anything less than 5-4 would be pretty bad this year (or any other year in my opinion). But that or better would allow them to build towards being a solid #2 with a decent shot depending onbreaks. ALL of that being said, there are going to be some very strong teams in the next couple of years. No sign of an Oxy collapse, CLU has built up, Redlands will be back, We are getting better.

Whittier/Chapman- I am going with the Poets. Reasons- I want to see the Hammer brothers get the win. As I said a long time back, they come from a good program as players at Wabash and as much crap as we give Whittier for being the Poets- it would be nice to have a decent program at the very bottom. Give the Hammer brothers the time.. they can do it. Played against the younger one when I was at a different program, hell of a player. With no disrespect, better than alot of player I have played against since, even Bryant Jr. from Oxy or Barbour from PP.
Ok Whit Chap score- Whittier 24 Chapman 21. Infighting dooms the Panthers.

As for playoffs... who wouldn't love to see two NWC and two SCIAC. That would spice things up.

[dawg gone it]

From all indications, the only way CLU makes the playoffs is if they win the SCIAC or possibly, the teams they played int he preseason go on a winning tear.  The second scenario is not likely. 

I personally think that they deserve a bid if they finish second but the Quality of Wins Index disagrees with me. 

[Sabretooth Tiger]

As for playoffs... who wouldn't love to see two NWC and two SCIAC. That would spice things up.

Would love to see Oxy and Cal Lu in the playoffs . . . provided that the NCAA does not pair the two SCIAC qualifiers like they did with the hoops playoffs last year with Claremont and Oxy . . . I had not thought about that until some previous discussion with Pat . . . what a drag that would be.  

I haven't read the playoff selection criteria close enough to know whether Cal Lu has a shot as league runner-up or not . . . I just have the sense, again confirmed by some comments by Pat, that quality of wins hurts Cal Lu and might just be problematic.

My picks for the week are Oxy by 28 over the Leopards, Cal Lu by 21 over the Stags, Redlands by 10 over the 'Hens and have to stick with SCIAC Whittier by 7 over non-SCIAC Chapman (more wishful thinking than anything else) . . . go Poets, pound the Panthers!

Eat'em up Tigers!

tooth

[Sabretooth Tiger]

OK folks, you all need to read the new "Around the Nation" . . . it's worth a look . . . and here's a section that made my sphincter pucker and caused me to wail out loud . . . Kevin writes:

Best potential playoff problem
The selection committee could get stuck with three Texas teams and no way to ensure they all play each other, meaning a Texas team could play its first playoff opener against an out-of-state opponent for the first time since Hardin-Simmons played Wittenberg in 2001 and Wesley went to Trinity in 2000. There could also be two SCIACs, two NWCs, two WIACs and two IIACs, making for some interesting possibilities out West and in half of the South. Perhaps (and I'm totally making this up just to see how it sounds) Cal Lutheran at Hardin-Simmons, Linfield at Central, UW-La Crosse at Whitworth, Occidental at UW-Whitewater, St. Norbert at St. John's and Trinity as usual at UMHB.
More likely SCIAC and NWC would stay matched up, as would two of the Texas teams.

Proof that it's way too early to speculate.

Yes, that's correct, K-Mack speculates the old "Occidental at UW-Whitewater" match-up . . . AAAUUURRGGHHHH!!!!!

Just what I want to see after opening against Linfield in round 1 last year . . . let's pray to the football and NCAA gods that the "more likely SCIAC and NWC would stay matched up" comes to fruition . . . and that the spec about two SCIAC bids also comes true . . . especially if we could garner a couple of Ws in round 1 to improve the SCIAC playoff win percentage!

And while we're at it, good luck to Linfield and Whitworth this weekend.  The 'Rats stomp the Pios by 4 tds and the 'Cats take SOU by 10.

tooth

[CRZK]

Tooth;

I agree!!  Also my initial take on that is travel $$'s.  Three west coast teams traveling that far ought to cost a lot.  Another interesting point is that Keith seems to give the nod to Whitworth vs Linfield for the NWC!!

On QOWI index, I just reviewed it again.  It seems the problem for Cal Lu is that it looks like even if they win out, except for Oxy, they have wins against at least 5 teams with less than a .333.  That kills their index.  Also at best UR, CMS, and Chapman are less than .667  What's interesting is that if Col College finishes strong that will will continue to help Oxy's index.

That should also change the discussion about non conference games.  If the index is the big thing, then as an AD I would look for non conference games not against the big boys but the solid #2/3/4  guys in conference.  Win against them and pad your index.  How about that for a thought for the Dawgs next year.

Also remind me,  doesn't the winner of the NWC get a pool A or is it just a B bid.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

My understanding is as follows, I expect to be corrected when proven the fool:  NWC is still a Pool B conference.  Pool A refers to the automatic bids to conference champs.  Pool B applies to conferences that don't get an automatic bid, like the NWC which has too few members to qualify for the automatic bid.  I think that this changes next year when Menlo joins the NWC.

how'd I do?

tooth 

[EastCoastStag]

The playoff picture should become more clear in a couple of weeks... speculation will only worry us more. Besides, CLU still has UR remaining..... oh yeah and some pesky guys with antlers as well. It's going to be a battle to the end. Looking good. I'll save playoff scheduling opinions until it is relevant.

Unfortunately, moving to SF in less than 10 days. Will be sad not to see a SCIAC game everyweekend. Depressing actually. The only thing close is Menlo....... Cal- NO, can't stand hippies. Stanford? Oxy 14 Stanford 13.

Will say though that I'd love to see an Oxy UWW game later in the playoffs. Those guys are damn good and I'd love to see how we'd stackup. Forsee possible issues for Mount if Garcon gets hurt. While Kmic shouldered a huge load last year in the playoffs, I don't think going 1 dimensional will be good for them. Garcon has the vast majority of MUC's receptions. Hell of a talent in that kid.

Final though- wish the SCIAC played 10 games. Brings us back to the idea of signing a contract to play NWC on a regular basis... yes and even L&C. No one wants to see them drop, then the NWC couldn't get an auto bid.

Oh well. A good weekend ahead. Looking forward to a good turnout at Zinda from both sides.

[pitkaine]

You know, the NCAA might pull their heads out of their collective A$$e$ and give us a playoff scenario that would benefit the SCIAC & NWC. Have the two first place teams host a team from the midwest or Texas. Highly unlikely, but it would give our conferences some well deserved publicity... Wait a minute, I was just dreaming. The NCAA would never do anything reasonable. Oh well, there is still a lot of football to be played.