FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[EastCoastStag]

Let me get this straight. In '02, OXY had kids who didn't even show up to the bus for the last road game?? I am assuming there were many freshmen in that group. Some simple math..... means they were seniors for football in '05.... and I wonder now why Oxy was humiliated in Linfield. Man, I've had bad senior leadership before, at no point did I ever play with seniors who had ever just not showed for a game at any point in their career.
Knowing this- makes me wonder if OXY is riding a wave of talent instead of good coaching or a commitment to a common goal. If that was the attitude of the players, that can represent the attitude of the players recruited at the time. If those indeed were the attitudes, I can't see players really taking recruits under their wings and working on them.
The situation could be this- a core group of players with excellent talent who happen themselves to be committed to a common goal and excellence, who happened upon OXY with more luck/accident than recruiting efforts. Who knows about the freshmen, sophs, and recruits. Save those who are starting, there could be a complete disconnect in terms of knowing the sacrifices it takes to 1) be excellent and 2) win.
At this point, I'm going to now reserve all judgement on the current "OXY dynasty" until much later in next year. Really wonder if the program, coaches, system, etc have anything to do with the success. We'll see when there is no Collins and a senior class with 2 (maybe 3) playoff appearances and titles leaves.


This isn't an attack on OXY or the current "streak" so let's no go getting bent out of shape here OXY folks. Just some musings and thoughts.

And yes ST, I get the point of your post. You didn't give a $hit.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

And yes ST, I get the point of your post. You didn't give a $hit.

Actually, you don't get the point and read far too much into it.  Your question . . . "what is time" struck me as being rhetorical . . . and it triggered the Chicago song in my brain, so I posted the lyrics, consistent with the earlier references to Schlitz, Hamm's, WWOS, and songs that one can't get out of their head.  Thought it was funny, but given the lack of reaction, amusing probably only to me (hey, you got to be willing strike out if you want to hit a home run).  Not intended as any disrespect toward you. 

Now the musings you just posted about the character of Oxy players, that I could take issue with, but I think I'll refrain . . . 

tooth

[RFB]

Let me get this straight. In '02, OXY had kids who didn't even show up to the bus for the last road game?? I am assuming there were many freshmen in that group. Some simple math..... means they were seniors for football in '05.... and I wonder now why Oxy was humiliated in Linfield. Man, I've had bad senior leadership before, at no point did I ever play with seniors who had ever just not showed for a game at any point in their career.
Knowing this- makes me wonder if OXY is riding a wave of talent instead of good coaching or a commitment to a common goal. If that was the attitude of the players, that can represent the attitude of the players recruited at the time. If those indeed were the attitudes, I can't see players really taking recruits under their wings and working on them.
The situation could be this- a core group of players with excellent talent who happen themselves to be committed to a common goal and excellence, who happened upon OXY with more luck/accident than recruiting efforts. Who knows about the freshmen, sophs, and recruits. Save those who are starting, there could be a complete disconnect in terms of knowing the sacrifices it takes to 1) be excellent and 2) win.
At this point, I'm going to now reserve all judgement on the current "OXY dynasty" until much later in next year. Really wonder if the program, coaches, system, etc have anything to do with the success. We'll see when there is no Collins and a senior class with 2 (maybe 3) playoff appearances and titles leaves.


This isn't an attack on OXY or the current "streak" so let's no go getting bent out of shape here OXY folks. Just some musings and thoughts.

And yes ST, I get the point of your post. You didn't give a $hit.

Incoming, take cover.

[Rock]

Stopped in to get the local weather forecast for the game
in Thousand Oaks. Snow here this morning and definitely
colder than this board. You guys almost got to religon.

I agree, the boys do seem tight.

GO OXY

rock

[scandihoovian]

Rock-

Santa Annas today with highs in the mid to low 80s - hopefully the winds will mellow a bit (they're supposed to) and Saturday will be perfect - clear and in the mid-70's.

[OXY Oswald]

Let me get this straight. In '02, OXY had kids who didn't even show up to the bus for the last road game?? I am assuming there were many freshmen in that group. Some simple math..... means they were seniors for football in '05.... and I wonder now why Oxy was humiliated in Linfield. Man, I've had bad senior leadership before, at no point did I ever play with seniors who had ever just not showed for a game at any point in their career.
Knowing this- makes me wonder if OXY is riding a wave of talent instead of good coaching or a commitment to a common goal. If that was the attitude of the players, that can represent the attitude of the players recruited at the time. If those indeed were the attitudes, I can't see players really taking recruits under their wings and working on them.
The situation could be this- a core group of players with excellent talent who happen themselves to be committed to a common goal and excellence, who happened upon OXY with more luck/accident than recruiting efforts. Who knows about the freshmen, sophs, and recruits. Save those who are starting, there could be a complete disconnect in terms of knowing the sacrifices it takes to 1) be excellent and 2) win.
At this point, I'm going to now reserve all judgement on the current "OXY dynasty" until much later in next year. Really wonder if the program, coaches, system, etc have anything to do with the success. We'll see when there is no Collins and a senior class with 2 (maybe 3) playoff appearances and titles leaves.


This isn't an attack on OXY or the current "streak" so let's no go getting bent out of shape here OXY folks. Just some musings and thoughts.

And yes ST, I get the point of your post. You didn't give a $hit.

Incoming, take cover.

Haha.  Well it's actually pretty simple, the same players that weren't showing up for games or had other problems on the team (and in school) either dropped out of Occidental or quit the team.  What remained makes up the championship teams you've seen the last few seasons.

So, there wasn't really a need for a giant rant in response to what ECS said.  No need to take cover.

[OXY Oswald]

Andersen Nabs SCIAC Honors
Los Angeles (October 25, 2006)

             Occidental College running back Matthew Andersen earned Athlete of the Week honors in the Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference Oct. 25.

            Andersen rushed 14 times for 118 yards, his third 100-yard game of the season, in Occidental's 38-23 win over longtime rival Pomona-Pitzer.  Andersen scored the Tigers' second touchdown on a nine-yard scamper late in the first quarter, capping a seven-play, 75-yard drive in which he accounted for all but 11 yards of the team's offense.

            He also caught four passes for 30 yards including a ten-yard touchdown midway through the second quarter.

            Andersen, a native of Sacramento, California, is a Studio Art major.  He earned an All-SCIAC Honorable Mention in 2005.

            Occidental (6-0, 4-0 SCIAC) is currently ranked 9th by D3 Football.com, 10th by Don Hansens' Football Gazette, and 10th by the American Football Coaches Association.  The Tigers continue SCIAC play this weekend with a 1pm date at Cal Lutheran (5-1, 2-1 SCIAC).

[Browneagle64]

ECS: Again, As Os pointed out in his post, such players left after their 1st yr. stint. That year also helped bring back the since of urgency and focus that most players had seen in 01.   

btw, How great is it to see that yet another tiger nabbing P.O.W. honors. After doing a good job at RB since the start of the season, I hope that Andersen continues to mustard out more yards on the ground. 

Great weather and SCIAC crowning implications sure makes anyone wish that the Oxy-Cal Lu game should be played now. Oxy over Cal Lu by three T.D.'s

[Rock]

Scandi

Thanks, clear and mid 70's will be great. Right now we have a clear
blue sky and a balmy 25 degrees here in the mountains.

I'm coming in late tonight so i'll have a couple of extra hours before the game
any recommendations on sight seeing.

congrats to Matt thats great.

Looking forward to the game.

GO OXY

rock

[Sabretooth Tiger]

The prediction for tomorrow here in Pasadena includes a high approaching 90 degrees . . . what's the anticipated weather way north in Thousand Oaks?

tooth

[scandihoovian]

Rock-

The new Air Force One exhibit at the Reagan Library is pretty darn cool, regardless of your views on Reagan, and easily the kind of thing you could do for an hour or two in the morning.  It's right on the way to CLU (exit 118 at Madera Road and head south - Madera later becomes Olsen and you run right into CLU).  I would also give yourself time to look around the new Gilbert Sports and Fitness Center (which will be hard to miss when you're coming down Olsen).

There's not a lot of good dining options in the north end of TO (most are down by the 101), but there are a few.  In the Trader Joe's shopping center at the corner of Ave de los Arboles & Moorpark Road there's a good, independent,  Mexican place called Tres Amigos.  There's also a pizza/sandwich place and a pub that used to be a great place to get a burger and a beer when I was a student at CLU, I have heard decidedly mixed reviews of late.  Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the world's best donuts (yes, I'm serious) are available at Fresh Donuts.  Get a chocolate chip roll or apple fritter, and try not to ponder the nutritional value.

[EastCoastStag]

What does this chocolatechip roll you speak of entail? Fat skinny kid is intrigued by the potential.

[labart96]

Thought you guys might be interested in the following (courtesy of Frank Rossi - broadcaster for Union (NY) Football:

Key: 
* = Conference Leader,
- = Conference Trailer in Reg. Poll,
X = Team That Couls Still Win Its Conference,
B = Pool B Team
#.### = Quality of Wins Index for that Team
W/L Records are Listed as W/L in Region, W/L Overall

ASC
------
*   Mary Hardin-Baylor   12.000   ASC   6-1, 6-1
-   Hardin-Simmons   9.667   ASC   5-1, 5-1
X   Sul Ross State   9.200   ASC   4-1, 5-1

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Likely 2 Based on Polls and Standings)

CC
----           
*   Dickinson   9.857   CC   6-1, 6-1
X   Gettysburg   8.500   CC   3-3, 4-3

Bids Likely – 1

CCIW
--------         
-   Wheaton   10.571   CCIW   6-1, 6-1
*   Augustana   10.429   CCIW   5-2, 5-2
X   North Central   9.714   CCIW   5-2, 5-2

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Too Close to Call)

E8
----           
*   Springfield   12.000   E8   7-0, 7-0
-   St. John Fisher   10.875   E8   7-1, 7-1
-   Alfred   9.857   E8   6-1, 6-1
-   Ithaca   8.167   E8   5-1, 6-1

Bids Likely – 1, 2 or 3 (Likely 2 Based on Games to Be Played

HCAC
--------           
*   Mt. St. Joseph   10.429   HCAC   7-0, 7-0
-   Franklin   9.714   HCAC   6-1, 6-1
X   Defiance   9.143   HCAC   6-1, 6-1

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Too Close to Call)

IBC
-----           
*   Concordia (Wis.)   10.125   IBC   8-0, 8-0
X   Greenville   8.500   IBC   5-1, 5-2
X   Lakeland   8.125   IBC   4-4, 4-4

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Likely 1 Based on Ratings and Polls)

IIAC
------           
*   Central   11.667   IIAC   6-0, 7-0
-   Wartburg   10.286   IIAC   6-1, 6-1
X   Coe   8.750   IIAC   6-2, 6-2

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Too Close to Call)

LL
----           
*   Hobart   11.667   LL   6-0, 6-0
-   Union   10.000   LL   5-1, 5-1

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Too Close to Call)

MAC
-------         
*   Wilkes   11.714   MAC   7-0, 7-0
X   King's   8.857   MAC   5-2, 5-2

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Likely 1 Based on Ratings and Schedule)

MIAA
--------           
*   Hope   9.333   MIAA   4-2, 4-3
X   Alma   7.800   MIAA   3-2, 4-3
X   Olivet   6.571   MIAA   4-3, 4-3
   
Bids Likely – 1 (No Team in Polls)

MIAC
-------         
*   St. John's   10.875   MIAC   8-0, 8-0
-   Bethel   10.714   MIAC   6-1, 6-1
X   St. Thomas   9.571   MIAC   5-2, 5-2

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Likely 2 Based on Ratings and Schedule)

MWC
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*   St. Norbert   10.714   MWC   7-0, 8-0
X   Illinois College   7.429   MWC   6-2, 6-2

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Too Close to Call)

NCAC
--------           
*   Wooster   10.143   NCAC   6-1, 6-1
X   Wittenberg   9.500   NCAC   4-2, 4-3
X   Wabash   9.143   NCAC   5-2, 5-2
X   Oberlin   7.286   NCAC   4-3, 4-3
X   Kenyon   7.000   NCAC   3-2, 4-3

Bids Likely – 1 (Conference Has Imploded as No Frontrunner Exists)

NEFC
--------         
*   Curry   10.000   NEFC   8-0, 8-0
X   Coast Guard   9.429   NEFC   6-1, 6-1

Bids Likely – 1 (Based on History and Curry's #10 Ranking in Regional)

NJAC
--------         
*   Rowan   10.600   NJAC   4-0, 5-1
-   Cortland State   10.500   NJAC   6-0, 7-0
         
Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Too Close to Call)

OAC
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*   Mount Union   11.571   OAC   7-0, 7-0
-   Capital   11.286   OAC   7-0, 7-0
-   Baldwin-Wallace   9.143   OAC   5-2, 5-2

Bids Likely – 1, 2 or 3 (Likely 2 Based on Standings, Ratings and Schedule)

ODAC
---------         
*   Washington and Lee   8.714   ODAC   6-1, 6-1
X   Emory and Henry   7.000   ODAC   3-3, 4-3

Bids Likely – 1 (Based on Ratings)
Pool B
---------         
B   Wesley   12.000   Pool B   4-0, 7-0
B   Rockford   10.000   Pool B   7-0, 7-1
B   Whitworth   10.000   Pool B   6-0, 7-0
B   Linfield   9.750   Pool B   3-1, 4-2
B   Carnegie Mellon   9.500   Pool B   6-0, 7-0
B   Washington and Jefferson   9.333   Pool B   5-1, 6-1

Bids Likely – 4 (Doubtful Pool B Will Steal a Pool C Slot)

SCAC
---------         
*   Trinity (Texas)   9.857   SCAC   6-1, 6-1
X   Rhodes   8.333   SCAC   4-2, 5-2
X   Millsaps   7.571   SCAC   4-3, 4-3

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Likely 1 Based on Standings and Ratings)

SCIAC
---------           
*   Occidental   10.667   SCIAC   6-0, 6-0
X   Cal Lutheran   8.167   SCIAC   5-1, 5-1
X   Redlands   7.000   SCIAC   2-4, 2-4

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Too Close to Call)

USAC
---------           
*   Christopher Newport   10.500   USAC   6-0, 6-1
-   Averett   9.000   USAC   5-2, 5-2

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Too Close to Call)

WIAC
--------           
*   UW-Whitewater   11.833   WIAC   6-0, 7-0
-   UW-La Crosse   9.500   WIAC   3-1, 5-1

Bids Likely – 1 or 2 (Too Close to Call)

[scandihoovian]

What does this chocolatechip roll you speak of entail? Fat skinny kid is intrigued by the potential.

It is the single most dominant force in the history of the donut - usually about 7" x 5" x 3" in size - filled and covered with chocolate chips

[Rock]

OB

If I have time I'll do both the wax museum and the Reagan library.
Not much for sleeping in, it will probably depend on what time they open.

Scandi

Thanks for the food reccomendations

GO OXY

rock