FB: Southern California Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[tmerton]

BTW-Coach Maynard of Redlands is a class act all the way as are most of the SCIAC head coaches. I am sure your comment about SCIAC coaches was meant as a way to have you tell us how great Coach John is.  Just a lousy comment about coaches you have no clue about. (not sure about the jackass comment either, I read it five times. I guess it is me)

From what I can tell, notwithstanding the tumultuous spring for a couple of the schools (I do in fact have a clue), the SCIAC has some excellent coaches, and Maynard appears to be at the top of the group.  My tongue was firmly in my cheek. 

Can't help you with the jackass comment.

[Scurlock11]

By that response, I have to know what law schools you've applied to.  Excellent game, btw.  You should download our archive to play for your grandkids.  www.oxybroadcast.com.
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haha although the law interests me my passion is in the health field... I hopefully will be kicking the MCATS butt this spring then making my way to med-school.. (as long as I stop posting message on d3football when I'm in class)

Thank you for the link to the archive... I'll be downloading it as soon as our game comes up..and from how enertaining I hear the announcers are I'm sure it will be a good one to keep.

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The Oxy-Whittier rivalry dates back to 1895. I believe Oxy leads the all-time series 52-43, with 2 ties.

I noticed that you were in there on defense at the end of the game. Showoff.

OxyBob
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Yes but I was referring specifically the the record since " the shoes" have been around... you didn't happen to be around when they were stolen were you?

I have been begging to play defense for four years, luckily I only got a couple plays in my career and only one incomplete pass came to me.. so I can continue to feed my imagination that I could have done it...

I'm interested in the "Multiple Stack" defense coach Fazio uses..does redlands use the 4-4 version? or a hybrid?  Seems to work well..

They play with anywhere from 12-15 guys on the field at one time effectively running the first 5-5-5 defense.... or so it seems.

I don't know why I don't remember this off the top of my head, possibly because that game was a blurr but I believe Redlands runs a variation of the 3-4, sometimes a 3-3 stack... similar to the defense oxy and cal lu are running.... they have a tendency to put a fair amount of weight on there DB's shoulders as they bring pressure from everywhere (which can cause fits for O-lines because every down you have to identify at least one blitzer)...not quite as much pressure as the 3rd down 11 men on the line look Oxy likes to give but not sitting back as much as Cal Lu..... (of course this is when they only have 11 on the field)

[EastCoastStag]

What is it about one team attempting to claim the "blue collar" work ethic over another? The Inland Empire is certainly blue collar at times, but at the same time it isn't exactly the poorest region in Southern California, esp with the plethora of people with their jacked up pickups with toys in tow. One could also make a claim that somewhat rural Minn. would be far more blue collar than urban Southern California. I understand the desire to claim this work ethic as it portrays a sense of urgency, grittiness, toughness, dirt under the fingernails, Rudy-eque mentality. But, if you're sporting a $40k+ a year tuition, I somehow don't think you can really make a truly serious claim to this blue collar work ethic. Then again, when is the last time anyone wanted to really claim their were more of an elitest institution on the football field? Maybe the NESCAC? They're all at home this week sipping tea and eating crumpets... or drinking Natty, The Beast and PBR in an attempt to associate themselves with the common man. Apologies, I digressed. I just have a slight contempt for the NESCAC... sort of along the lines of laughing when Notre Dame claims the moral authority.
Anyways, point being - let us stick to the tangible assets in doing our due dilligence on this game, rather than focusing on the intangibles. Those matter, but you just can't measure or accurately forecast these factors.


Bob - love your humor
As for Redlands D, at last check it is the Fazio 3-5-3 scheme. He attempted to run it at CMC, but lacked the large inside presence to have those 5 backers / rovers able to truly flow and roam free. It is a pain, because it is similar to the NFL 3-4 defense where the OL must begin to "guess" from where the pressure will be coming. The backfield (RBs) must be very sharp and able to notice hand pressure, hip levels, foot pressure and location to determine which guys are coming and which guys are backing out. Very nuanced, but unless you can read the signals, that is the only way to pick up who is coming and where. Tackles, RBs and TEs need to be constantly talking and communicating on the line, in the huddle and on the sideline.

[downtown48]

The reportrix from the Redlands Daily Facts was at it again:

Only UR will enjoy a postseason glow this year. The Bulldogs travel to St. John University in Collegeville, Minn., for a first-round playoff game. UR faced St. John five years ago in its last postseason appearance.

The Bulldogs fell to the Red Storm 31-24.

The Bulldogs take on the Red Storm noon Saturday.

Wrong St. John's University.

OxyBob

How does this chick still have a job...better yet how do the copy editor's or her boss still have a job? 

[SnowLeopard]

Concerning the football talent in Southern California....

In Southern California we have only 1 D1AA school (University San Diego) and no D2 football.  Many good players in Southern California if they do not get picked up by a D1 school either play Juco then quit playing or just quit playing after high school. Many have what I call D1itis. If they don't play D1, they just quit playing.

Other important factors are ALL the D3 schools in So Cal and the NW conference are very expensive and academically sound. That thins the herd further. Juco transfers do not seem to be popular with many programs.

Not sure of what the options are for other parts of the country, but that is how it is out West

Well said. Very True. Not to mention California schools like:

St Mary's
Santa Clara
SF State
Sonoma State
Chico State
Pacific
Hayward State
Long Beach State
CSU Northridge
Cal Poly Pomona
UC Riverside
UC Santa Barbara

cutting their football programs....

[SnowLeopard]

The backfield (RBs) must be very sharp and able to notice hand pressure, hip levels, foot pressure and location to determine which guys are coming and which guys are backing out. Very nuanced, but unless you can read the signals, that is the only way to pick up who is coming and where.

Sounds more like the VIP Room at Spearmint Rhino.

OxyBob

CarloRossiLep... You still hitting the lunchtime rush?

[snoop dawg]

Sounds like she hydrates way too much!

[CarloRossiLep]

The backfield (RBs) must be very sharp and able to notice hand pressure, hip levels, foot pressure and location to determine which guys are coming and which guys are backing out. Very nuanced, but unless you can read the signals, that is the only way to pick up who is coming and where.

Sounds more like the VIP Room at Spearmint Rhino.

OxyBob

CarloRossiLep... You still hitting the lunchtime rush?

You know me too well! 

[coco]

Concerning the football talent in Southern California....

In Southern California we have only 1 D1AA school (University San Diego) and no D2 football.  Many good players in Southern California if they do not get picked up by a D1 school either play Juco then quit playing or just quit playing after high school. Many have what I call D1itis. If they don't play D1, they just quit playing.

Other important factors are ALL the D3 schools in So Cal and the NW conference are very expensive and academically sound. That thins the herd further. Juco transfers do not seem to be popular with many programs.

Not sure of what the options are for other parts of the country, but that is how it is out West

Well said. Very True. Not to mention California schools like:

St Mary's
Santa Clara
SF State
Sonoma State
Chico State
Pacific
Hayward State
Long Beach State
CSU Northridge
Cal Poly Pomona
UC Riverside
UC Santa Barbara

cutting their football programs....

Yeah, what's the deal with that? We had an offspring at Santa Clara, and I know they used to have football a long time ago, but when she went there they had only that Communist sport in the fall (sorry, Tuxguy).
The homecoming soccer game? I don't remember if they even had homecoming.

[EastCoastStag]

Never went to the Rhino.. Although I did get a free pass for the VIP room once. I just didn't want to take the time to drive into LA. Now the Tropical Lei... go on a good day and you could find a Scrippsie or two at work. Something about fighting male-dominated society by taking off their tops for a dollar bill... never quite could understand that one. At the end of the day, I came out ahead, couple $ short, few drinks richer and saved from any viruses on my computer.

Now there was this one place down in Chino I think had this great sign. (Saw it when I was on my way to get my thesis bound) 100 hot chicks and 3 ugly ones (paraphrasing, but it was something to that degree). Couldn't help but laugh out loud.

[Sabretooth Tiger]

The Oxy-Whittier rivalry dates back to 1895. I believe Oxy leads the all-time series 52-43, with 2 ties.

Yes but I was referring specifically the the record since " the shoes" have been around... you didn't happen to be around when they were stolen were you?

I found a picture of me and Sabretooth Tiger which was taken when we were in the dorms at Oxy. As you can see, shoes had not yet been invented. We were still busy working on fire and the wheel.


  Yabba-dabba-Oxy!

OxyBob

In case anyone was wondering, I'm the better looking and smarter one.  Bob is standing next to me.

[D O.C.]

Not football talk but...

       

saved from any viruses

You better hope so.

[snoop dawg]

tooth....you must be the guy in the tie.......I thought OB only wore tie -dye in those days.

Very funny stuff OB...+k

[Sabretooth Tiger]

We had an offspring at Santa Clara, and I know they used to have football a long time ago, but when she went there they had only that Communist sport in the fall ... The homecoming soccer game? I don't remember if they even had homecoming.

That must be quite an exciting reunion when former Santa Clara soccer players reminisce about their playing days:

Player 1: "Great to see you! We haven't spoken since that 0-0 tie against Pepperdine!"
Player 2: "I know, wasn't that a great game? Almost as good as the 0-0 tie against Gonzaga."
Player 1: "Nothing will top our winning streak when we won 1-0 against USD, 1-0 against Portland, and 1-0 against St. Mary's. Too bad we had to go and ruin it with that 1-1 tie against USF."
Player 2: "Well, we still talk about the time we ran up the score on Loyola and monkey-stomped them 2-0."
Player 1: "LMU is still upset about that. They were so mad about that game that when they played San Jose State they went all out, tied 0-0 in regulation, and then made all 5 of their penalty kicks in the shoot out."
Player 2: "Wow, I wish I could have been there to see that, but I already had tickets to the World Championships of Watching Paint Dry. Semi-Gloss beat the brains out of Satin."
Player 1: "Lucky you. Well, we better get over for the start of the homecoming game. We wouldn't want to miss any of the 90 minutes of nothing at all happening."

OxyBob

The boys at the Los Alamos National Laboratory apparently disagree with your fundamental thesis.  Per Forbes magazine:  http://www.forbes.com/2006/01/04/soccer-football-baseball-cx_pm_0104soccer.html

Three years ago I would have agreed with everything you said.  Now, after coaching the little one in AYSO for three years, and having taken him to watch an Oxy soccer match, I have to say that I now fall into the camp that believes:  "Nothing is more boring than watching a Soccer game where you don't care who wins.. and nothing is more exciting than one where you do."

fwiw

tooth

[snoop dawg]

tooth, Sorry, even I had a tough time watching my son play soccer at 6 or 7, of course by the time he was 7 he was ejected for tackling....football style.