FB: Empire 8

[superman57]

that would be an intresting move for them...because if I'm correct they are apart of UAA and travel a lot...this would cut down a lot of costs

[Knightstalker]

I don't think U or R would leave the UAA in basketball.

[JQV]

UR is definitely not leaving the UAA in hoops, and most likely not leaving the LL in anything else.

Stick with Tecmo.  He knows what he is talking about.

[superman57]

I agree with what pat is saying in that the best move would probably be no move at all... the schools needed the AQ 4 years ago when the league was not very strong... but now you have two top 10 teams and two others either in the top 25 or on the verge... I don't see a reason as e8 will still get two bids every year

[AUPepBand]

what are the chances a school like Fredonia, Clarkson, Keuka, Siena, Elizabethtown getting a football program?

There's been mention of Tom Coughlin returning to RIT to revive its once-fledgling football program. Never happen. But perhaps Elmira College would consider adding football. Would probably be a great opportunity for Elmira's 48 cheerleaders to warm up for the basketball season.

[JQV]

what are the chances a school like Fredonia, Clarkson, Keuka, Siena, Elizabethtown getting a football program?

There's been mention of Tom Coughlin returning to RIT to revive its once-fledgling football program. Never happen. But perhaps Elmira College would consider adding football. Would probably be a great opportunity for Elmira's 48 cheerleaders to warm up for the basketball season.

Pep, there is no way for you to know exactly how funny that was.  There are at least three people in the world that just read that and spit whatever they were drinking all over their computers.

+k.

I am dying.  I should explain but it wouldn't make any sense.

[Caz Bombers]

I remember going to one or two EC at IC hoops games and wondering why our cheerleaders were wearing purple and why there were 400 of them and why they were cheering for the other team.  Guess that answers that.

Never a good thing when your posse of cheerleaders outnumbers your school's actual number of fans anywhere in existence by a factor of 5, minimum.

Elmira and Hartwick: The Empire 8's Axis of Useless.

[AUPepBand]

Jose,

Send me the repair bill for the computer damage.

+k back at ya

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what are the chances a school like Fredonia, Clarkson, Keuka, Siena, Elizabethtown getting a football program?

There's been mention of Tom Coughlin returning to RIT to revive its once-fledgling football program. Never happen. But perhaps Elmira College would consider adding football. Would probably be a great opportunity for Elmira's 48 cheerleaders to warm up for the basketball season.

Pep, there is no way for you to know exactly how funny that was.  There are at least three people in the world that just read that and spit whatever they were drinking all over their computers.

+k.

I am dying.  I should explain but it wouldn't make any sense.

Being from down there, that is really funny. Except it's more like 480 cheerleaders.

+k

[Rolevio]

what are the chances a school like Fredonia, Clarkson, Keuka, Siena, Elizabethtown getting a football program?

Siena isn't eligible for D3 football, and Clarkson is very unlikely and even mroe unlikely they would leave the LL for the E8 if doing so.  The rest no clue.

[AUPepBand]

At Alfred, when we had 'em a few years back, we had one figure-challenged cheerleader together with three others and a guy. When Elmira's cagers came to McLane, our little group of misfits did what they could do at one end of the basketball court but were a bit intimidated by the 48 purple-clad Barbie Dolls flying from pyramids at the other end of the court.

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what are the chances a school like Fredonia, Clarkson, Keuka, Siena, Elizabethtown getting a football program?

Siena isn't eligible for D3 football, and Clarkson is very unlikely and even mroe unlikely they would leave the LL for the E8 if doing so.  The rest no clue.

No way Keuka makes that happen. Fredonia maybe?

[gordonmann]

Fredonia is a public school.  If adding football made sense for the Blue Devils, that would give the SUNY schools six football playing members.  If would be just as easy to find one affiliate (hello West Conn) as it would be crack the E8.

While we're on the subject...

I don't see a reason as e8 will still get two bids every year

I'll give you three reasons -- Carnegie Mellon, Wesley and Salisbury.

As the number of Pool B eligible teams drops, so do the number of available Pool B slots.  This year the PAC teams left Pool B.  Next year the NWC teams do the same.  By 2011 several teams playing in the new St. Louis Intercollegiate Athletic Conference (SLIAC) will also have an automatic bid.  So maybe there are two Pool B bids left by 2011.

The teams fighting for those bids are the UAA, Empire 6, the NAC, some spare independents and the remnants of the ACFC.  Bbased on current talent levels, that leaves Alfred, Ithaca, Springfield, St. John Fisher, Wesley, Salisbury and the top UAA teams fighting for two bids every year.  How confident are you that two of the E6 will be better than Salisbury, Wesley and the UAA every year?

If you want to be pessimistic, you could even envision a situation where a UAA team and Wesley/Salisbury finish 9-1 or better (while the Empire 6 beat up on each other.  In that case, there's no guarantee any E6 teams make the playoffs.

Maybe this sounds pessimistic and it's admittedly hypothetical.  But nearly every coach I've talked to -- those with and without AQs -- has said they'd rather have an AQ than not. 

That's why the schools in Alabama and Georgia will travel to St. Louis for  in-conference games.  That's why the Empire 8 brought in affiliate members to begin with.  And that's why I think you'll see the E6 push to replace Norwich long before 2011 rolls around.

[boobyhasgameyo]

I was wondering how U of R scored into the UAA.  That conference is basketball just seems to be so randomly put together.  If they went to the E8 it would save dramatically on travel and it's not a bad conference, Fisher always has a strong team and they have a rivalry going with U of R in basketball as well.  Just a thought though. 

[BobNapoleone]

what are the chances a school like Fredonia, Clarkson, Keuka, Siena, Elizabethtown getting a football program?

There's been mention of Tom Coughlin returning to RIT to revive its once-fledgling football program. Never happen. But perhaps Elmira College would consider adding football. Would probably be a great opportunity for Elmira's 48 cheerleaders to warm up for the basketball season.

Pep you are showing "presidential wisdom" ....and I needed a good laugh.

Can't blame Norwich......I would think Lyco would make a lot of sense, don't know much about them other than the football games are more competitive than Norwich and the like.....

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