FB: Empire 8

[pg04]

Hopefully the Bridgewater in Virginia... .   I just found it odd and picked it out right away because usually the "receiving votes" teams seem pretty accurate to me. 

[DanPadavona]

I also have to doubt the fact that Buffalo state got 8 "points" at 1-2 after losing to Cortland while Brockport is not receiving any votes being 2-1 and had beaten Cortland.  Is this some sort of typo? 

Let me say that I am not upset about Brockport not receiving votes.  What I am upset about is Buffalo State receiving votes at 1-2! 

I noticed that too.  It must be a typo.  I'm sure it was supposed to be either Brockport or Cortland receiving those votes. 

I was happy to see Fisher moved up to #5 once again.  Well deserved I think.  Although some people on here don't think so. 

Congratulations Alfred on your first national ranking at #22.  Also well deserved.

Well deserved, yes.  But I would have them much higher.  If Fisher is #5, Alfred looks to be every bit of a top 10.  They just killed a good team.  Their score comparison with Montclair vs. Springfield is hard to ignore too.

The top of the E8 is very frightening at the moment.  And judging by what they did to Widener, I would not be surprised to see Rowan right back in the discussion by the end of the season. 

[Caz Bombers]

ok so here is a question...could Welch's job be in jepordy, if Ithaca continue to struggles and at the end of the season is 6-4 or 5-5

It might not be, but maybe it should be.  Would be interesting to see the new Prez come in and whack Welch, Mullins and Kutler.  If this was a real athletic program, oops, I mean a D1A FBS athletic program, we might have that, but I'm not holding my breath.

[pg04]

ok so here is a question...could Welch's job be in jepordy, if Ithaca continue to struggles and at the end of the season is 6-4 or 5-5

It might not be, but maybe it should be.  Would be interesting to see the new Prez come in and whack Welch, Mullins and Kutler.  If this was a real athletic program, oops, I mean a D1A FBS athletic program, we might have that, but I'm not holding my breath.

That is one thing that is inherently WRONG with those so called real athletic programs.  A hair trigger on the firing  IMHO. 

[John McGraw]

I also have to doubt the fact that Buffalo state got 8 "points" at 1-2 after losing to Cortland while Brockport is not receiving any votes being 2-1 and had beaten Cortland.  Is this some sort of typo? 

Let me say that I am not upset about Brockport not receiving votes.  What I am upset about is Buffalo State receiving votes at 1-2! 

I noticed that too.  It must be a typo.  I'm sure it was supposed to be either Brockport or Cortland receiving those votes. 

I was happy to see Fisher moved up to #5 once again.  Well deserved I think.  Although some people on here don't think so. 

Congratulations Alfred on your first national ranking at #22.  Also well deserved.

Well deserved, yes.  But I would have them much higher.  If Fisher is #5, Alfred looks to be every bit of a top 10.  They just killed a good team.  Their score comparison with Montclair vs. Springfield is hard to ignore too.

The top of the E8 is very frightening at the moment.  And judging by what they did to Widener, I would not be surprised to see Rowan right back in the discussion by the end of the season. 

Springfield hasn't been that quite good this year. I'd say they're so-so since the defense is real young and the offense hasn't gelled against two aggressive defenses that knew what to expect due to past experiences against the Springfield triple option.

The win over Union doesn't look as good now since the Dutchmen have struggled mightily this season.

I think Alfred is a good team and they deserve to be in the Top 25, but it's too early to play the scoring comparison game.

Besides, the Saxons two other wins were over Thiel (who's having a god-awful year) and St. Lawrence.

Top 25 yes, top 10, don't crown them just yet.

The biggest telling factor about the Saxons this year will be the final three weeks of the season with Hobart, Ithaca and Fisher on the road.

[superman57]

ok so here is a question...could Welch's job be in jepordy, if Ithaca continue to struggles and at the end of the season is 6-4 or 5-5

It might not be, but maybe it should be.  Would be interesting to see the new Prez come in and whack Welch, Mullins and Kutler.  If this was a real athletic program, oops, I mean a D1A FBS athletic program, we might have that, but I'm not holding my breath.

That is one thing that is inherently WRONG with those so called real athletic programs.  A hair trigger on the firing  IMHO. 

Pg04 I agree with you there is too much of a fast trigger on firing coaches in DI....but on the other hand...how can welch not be on the hot seat...Ithaca does not make even the ECAC's last year...with loses to Fisher, alfred and Cortland...and this year they lose to HARTWICK and then they get beat badly at home against a good fisher team

[pg04]

I was under the impression that they would have gotten an ECAC game but did not accept the invitation.  I guess that could be wrong.

As for Hartwick, Sometimes teams in the upper tier have a tendency to lose to lower tiered teams every once in a while.   Didn't Fisher lose to Norwich (in 2004) in an otherwise Undefeated Season for the Cardinal?  Maybe Hartwick is going to be that Norwich team. 

Just some food for thought. 

[FisherAlum05]

I was under the impression that they would have gotten an ECAC game but did not accept the invitation.  I guess that could be wrong.

As for Hartwick, Sometimes teams in the upper tier have a tendency to lose to lower tiered teams every once in a while.   Didn't Fisher lose to Norwich (in 2004) in an otherwise Undefeated Season for the Cardinal?  Maybe Hartwick is going to be that Norwich team. 

Just some food for thought. 

PG04, you are correct.  Ithaca declined the invitation to an ECAC Bowl Game last season.  They never accept ECAC bids for some reason.  NCAA's or nothing for them.  I think it's pretty stupid myself.  In my opinion, you take that extra game especially for the departing seniors.  Plus it gives you a chance to often play a team from another conference. 

I was on the 2004 Fisher team that lost to Norwich, which was my senior season.  Although we should have won that game, I should point out, that Norwich had a fairly good team that season with a final regular season record of 7-3.  Though they lost to Alfred, Ithaca, and SC pretty handily.  Norwich had a good QB, RB, and two good WR's one of whom was Pierre Garcon from Mount Union, perhaps the best player in D3 right now.

[pg04]

Ah Yes, Forgot about Garcon...and sorry about Bringing that up...Of course you had beaten the port in the same manner the week before...

Perhaps Hartwick will finish 6-4  (actually they could probably finish 6-4 because outside of the big 3, they have Mount Ida, Becker, Utica, and Norwich). 

[FisherAlum05]

I also have to doubt the fact that Buffalo state got 8 "points" at 1-2 after losing to Cortland while Brockport is not receiving any votes being 2-1 and had beaten Cortland.  Is this some sort of typo? 

Let me say that I am not upset about Brockport not receiving votes.  What I am upset about is Buffalo State receiving votes at 1-2! 

I noticed that too.  It must be a typo.  I'm sure it was supposed to be either Brockport or Cortland receiving those votes. 

I was happy to see Fisher moved up to #5 once again.  Well deserved I think.  Although some people on here don't think so. 

Congratulations Alfred on your first national ranking at #22.  Also well deserved.

Well deserved, yes.  But I would have them much higher.  If Fisher is #5, Alfred looks to be every bit of a top 10.  They just killed a good team.  Their score comparison with Montclair vs. Springfield is hard to ignore too.

The top of the E8 is very frightening at the moment.  And judging by what they did to Widener, I would not be surprised to see Rowan right back in the discussion by the end of the season. 

I agree that Alfred is very good.  But I would be careful there.  Until Alfred plays a very good team and wins you really can't say that.  Springfield was obviously overrated and therefore I do not think you can place that much emphasis on it.  Remember, Fisher lambasted a good Alfred team in last years season finale.  Although I must say Alfred is better this season than last.

Certainly it will be interesting when those two teams meet at the end of the season.  Could be a showdown of unbeatens.

[FisherAlum05]

Ah Yes, Forgot about Garcon...and sorry about Bringing that up...Of course you had beaten the port in the same manner the week before...

Perhaps Hartwick will finish 6-4  (actually they could probably finish 6-4 because outside of the big 3, they have Mount Ida, Becker, Utica, and Norwich). 

Haha its okay I'm finally over it now.  Yeah that Brockport "hail Katherine" victory on the last play was crazy.  That was one of the greatest D3 games I was ever involved in thats for sure. 

Hartwick is probably quite similar to that Norwich team you're right.  Fisher better be careful this weekend.  I agree that Hartwick will probably finish 6-4.  If they can pull out a win against Springfield maybe 7-3. 

[FisherAlum05]

Now that were talking about Hartwick, I was thinking that maybe its possible they can regain some of the luster they once had in their program.  Possibly do some damage this season and in future seasons. 

I'm sure you guys know this, but just a few years back Hartwick was actually quite good.  In 2002 especially.  They had an awesome team that year.  They finished 8-2, with a 19-18 loss to Ithaca and a 39-38 loss to RPI.  They beat a solid Fisher team, Alfred, Kings, and they crushed Union.  Also crushed Curry in an ECAC game.  Obviously they missed the NCAA playoffs however. 

[pg04]

I shudder to think what could happen if Hartwick was ALSO good. 

[boobyhasgameyo]

so didn't someone predict that Alfred would get in at 22... Fisher is back at 5 and that is fine...though it could be a very interesting week as we have #3 UWW @ #6 UW-LC... and does anyone have an exact # of consecutive games that Ithaca had won at home vs. Private schools...

so it's really late right now and i'm not thinking all that straight, but I think it was me who predicted the 22 ranking.  Then again I could have a late night megalomaniac complex and just assume all good things were created by me....

[fisheralum91]

wow!
well i guess i picked a great game to hit when AU will be coming to Growney in November!
Congrats to Fisher on the big win and dont let up on this weeks game!
Tags- i didnt get a chance to catch the game on the web---but bu all accounts it was a much better performance than the UR game.
Thoughts?